Daily Repentance Vs. One-time Repentance?

[blue_ladybug]

Sooo, on some of the sin and salvation threads, there is some question/debate about whether we need to repent of our sins daily/when we do them, or if repentance is a one-time occurence after we get saved, since Jesus died for all sin. Some believe we need to repent each time we sin. Others think we don't need to repent time and again, because Jesus paid for ALL sin, past, present and future.. What say you all? Please keep it civil, no fighting or name-calling, and provide scripture to back up your views. Thanks..

 

[MadebyHim]

was driving yesterday and was cut off, felt the need to repent the things that was going through brain, and the murmuring under my breath.

 

[Willie-T]

was driving yesterday and was cut off, felt the need to repent the things that was going through brain, and the murmuring under my breath.

Did being cut off in traffic make you decide to change your mind about following Jesus?

Did Jesus withdraw forgiveness from you for that outburst?

If you had hit another car and been killed because of being cut off, would you have gone to Hell due to that anger or irritation on your mind at the moment you died?

 

[blue_ladybug]

Your last question is a good one, Willie. Several people here have said that if we die with unrepented sin, we will go to hell. I don't think that's true, because EVERYONE is going to die with unrepented sin. So if it's true that God knows our heartset at that moment, He surely won't send ALL of us to hell.

Did being cut off in traffic make you decide to change your mind about following Jesus?

Did Jesus withdraw forgiveness from you for that outburst?

If you had hit another car and been killed because of being cut off, would you have gone to Hell due to that anger or irritation on your mind at the moment you died?

 

[Willie-T]

I think it is mainly the fact that most of us have chosen to believe a gross misinterpretation of the word, 'repentance'. And there would be nothing wrong with that... IF Jesus and Jonh the Baptist hadn't meant something entirely different when they both gave a command that we needed to REPENT.

Yes, they said even the people who were already sorry for their sinning needed to repent.

And those who might not have been.

And even those who probably hadn't sinned in months. (And that was not uncommon among Pharisees. Paul actually said in Galatians that, living the way he was, he did a very good job of keeping the Law all the time. Did you notice that it was not until AFTER he 'repented' that he said he found that he no longer kept the Law the way he wished he could?)

 

[blue_ladybug]

I sin on a weekly basis.. lol.. And I usually feel compelled to repent each time. But back to the title question: DO we need to continually repent, or are we "covered" by Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, with no need for further repentance?

 

[Willie-T]

I sin on a weekly basis.. lol.. And I usually feel compelled to repent each time. But back to the title question: DO we need to continually repent, or are we "covered" by Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, with no need for further repentance?

Would you be 'unforgiven' if you simply acknowledged regret and determined to do better in the future.... OR is there some sort of officially sanctioned ritual to perform (like the Catholics do) to have your position of forgiven sonship or daughtership reinstated?

Do you think you are 'unforgiven' from the moment of doing something wrong, until by your own actions, you ask to have Him clear the slate again?

 

[blue_ladybug]

I think that acknowledging regret and try to do better would grant me forgiveness.. But I've seen people on here say that you need to repent every time. Repent if you swear, repent if you lie, repent if you steal, etc.. That's why I posed the title question and started this thread. If you continually sin without repenting, isn't it kind of like you can do what you want, with no fear of retribution from God?

Would you be 'unforgiven' if you simply acknowledged regret and determined to do better in the future.... OR is there some sort of officially sanctioned ritual to perform (like the Catholics do) to have your position of forgiven sonship or daughtership reinstated?

Do you think you are 'unforgiven' from the moment of doing something wrong, until by your own actions, you ask to have Him clear the slate again?

 

[Prov910]

I think it is mainly the fact that most of us have chosen to believe a gross misinterpretation of the word, 'repentance'.

Yeah, it seems that many people use the word repent as if it means seek forgiveness. I think the dictionary definition is a better definition than that: "to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life." LINK It seems like you'd only need to seek repentance again in the situation where you fell away from turning away from sin. That is, where you purposely began sinning again. Not merely in those instances where you slipped up.

After repenting it seems like the nature of the sins you struggle with should change. It seems like a person who has truly repented shouldn't habitually break the ten commandments any more. (Oh sure, there may be the occasional slip ups.) Instead the nature of sin becomes a matter of failing to love your neighbor as yourself--like being slow to forgive, or the flash of anger you feel when someone cuts you off in traffic. /jmho

 

[Monnkai]

I think that acknowledging regret and try to do better would grant me forgiveness.. But I've seen people on here say that you need to repent every time. Repent if you swear, repent if you lie, repent if you steal, etc.. That's why I posed the title question and started this thread. If you continually sin without repenting, isn't it kind of like you can do what you want, with no fear of retribution from God?

I was under the impression that we should repent for everything. I often repent for things I didn't realize was sinning at the time of doing it. Just to have everything covered. But I also understand that most of us will die without a clean slate. Doesn't that fall under once saved always saved?

 

[valiant]

I think that acknowledging regret and try to do better would grant me forgiveness.. But I've seen people on here say that you need to repent every time. Repent if you swear, repent if you lie, repent if you steal, etc.. That's why I posed the title question and started this thread. If you continually sin without repenting, isn't it kind of like you can do what you want, with no fear of retribution from God?

Jesus said, 'he who is clean needs only to wash his feet.'

In other words there is lifelong forgiveness AND daily forgiveness.

We need to repent of what we are - one time repentance, and we need to repent of our daily sins. The first is before our Judge. The second before our Father.


The first brings us SALVATION. The second restores our fellowship with our Father and with each other.

 

[blue_ladybug]

So we DO need to repent daily, if we have sinned?

Jesus said, 'he who is clean needs only to wash his feet.'

In other words there is lifelong forgiveness AND daily forgiveness.

We need to repent of what we are - one time repentance, and we need to repent of our daily sins. The first is before our Judge. The second before our Father.


The first brings us SALVATION. The second restores our fellowship with our Father and with each other.

 

[samuel23]

I remember reading this story of a well known Christian lady who had a health problem that required that she never over eat. Anyway she got carried away at a dinner and over ate and became sick and she said that she was asking God for forgiveness by saying, Lord I think I ate a little more then I should. She said that she felt no forgiveness, and then she said, I made a pig out of myself at dinner last night, she said, then I felt forgiveness. I look at it this way, in this life God has promised us forgiveness if we ask in Jesus name, I intend to make full use of that promise right up until my last breath. To Willie, I know your position on this, if you believe that you do not have to personally ask for forgiveness all the time then that is your business.

 

[Willie-T]

So we DO need to repent daily, if we have sinned?

No.

So we DO repent daily, if we have sinned? (My edit)

Often, "Yes."

Will either way make any difference in our Salvation?
No.

Does repeatedly telling Jesus we think we are unforgiven, hurt Him?
Probably............................ But He has already forgiven us for that. He knew we would fall back into religion in a lot of areas.... even those we don't recognize.

 

[valiant]

So we DO need to repent daily, if we have sinned?

Yes we should 'repent' daily over our known sins, that means changing our mind about them and bringing them to our Father for daily cleansing.

But it is a matter of relationship not of being saved all over again. The latter was once for all at the cross.

 

[Willie-T]

I remember reading this story of a well known Christian lady who had a health problem that required that she never over eat. Anyway she got carried away at a dinner and over ate and became sick and she said that she was asking God for forgiveness by saying, Lord I think I ate a little more then I should. She said that she felt no forgiveness, and then she said, I made a pig out of myself at dinner last night, she said, then I felt forgiveness. I look at it this way, in this life God has promised us forgiveness if we ask in Jesus name, I intend to make full use of that promise right up until my last breath. To Willie, I know your position on this, if you believe that you do not have to personally ask for forgiveness all the time then that is your business.

Only because I believe Jesus when He said I am already forgiven. What I do now is thank Him for that forgiveness whenever I blow it.

 

[NotmebutHim]

To me, repentance means "change of mind".

Now, when it comes to Jesus, consider these things:

John the Baptist said "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand".

Jesus said to the crowd (when referring to the Jews whom Pilate had murdered while they were sacrificing) that they will also die if they don't repent.

Paul, when speaking to the Greeks, said that God "winked at" our sins previously, but now commands men everywhere to repent.

So on the basis that to repent when it comes to Jesus means to change one's mind about Him, and trust Him as Savior, then it's a one-time deal.

Therefore, IMO, we as Christians don't need to "repent" daily. We need to ask for forgiveness though. Because we've already "repented" and changed our minds about Christ and sin, then that serves as the basis or foundation for asking forgiveness in the first place.

 

[Willie-T]

Yes we should 'repent' daily over our known sins, that means changing our mind about them and bringing them to our Father for daily cleansing.

But it is a matter of relationship not of being saved all over again. The latter was once for all at the cross.

When you sinned, did you think if was fine to do so, and did you have no idea you were just giving in to your own will or anger, or whatever at the time?

It would require you seeing sinning as a good thing in order to now "change your mind" that it is not a good thing. In reality, you already knew, full well, that sinning is wrong. I hope you don't think you have to change your mind about believing that.

On the other hand, if you have no idea sinning is wrong or that a specific thing you consistently do is wrong) then you would, of course thank God for showing you where you were wrong, and rethink that sort of action, hopefully, changing your mind about doing it.

But this sort of thing is not what many of us are even thinking about here. And, believe it, or not, Jesus said you were even forgiven of THAT habit or prejudice when you accepted His gift.

 

[Willie-T]

Remember when you did wrong as a child, and went to your father or mother, and told them you were sorry.... and asked them to forgive you?

What did they say?

Did they think about it, and finally decide to forgive you? Or did they say "You know I love you, and I forgave you long before you ever came to find me." (They get that virtuous trait from God.)

 

[blue_ladybug]

Okay, so here's another question I have. Some believe that only our past and present sins are forgiven, but not any FUTURE sins of ours, since we don't know what they will be or when we'll sin. Did Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, also take care of any future sins that we may do?

I know I sound stupid, lol.. I promise I'm not. It's just that these are the things that my simple brain wonders about.. LOL