Martin Luther Invented the "Imputed Righteousness of Christ" Doctrine
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Originally Posted by valiant
Yes they do this because they are blessed ones. They are first accounted as righteous, then they are born again, then they do this as those who have been blessed.
the 'if' is not conditional in this case but the equivalent of 'since' as so often. I am not impressed by people who quote Strongs thinking it solves everything, learn some Greek.
Gal 6.6-9
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. [SUP]10 [/SUP]So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. [SUP]10 [/SUP]So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.
The Bible teaches that we are no longer slaves to sin, we become a slave to righteousness, which changes us from a sinner that is lost and hell bound to a saint that still will SIN.....but should become more Christ like as the mind is renewed...
Stating you are still a sinner, after accepting Grace and salvation is just as and even worse than works based salvation folks...
Stating you are still a sinner, after accepting Grace and salvation is just as and even worse than works based salvation folks...
No, I'm simply one correcting you with Scripture and context. Yours was a failure to heed 2 Timothy 2:15.
IOW, you're wrong, so instead of receiving correction you go on some rabbit trail and make absurd assumptions and accusations. That my friend is frankly juvenile behavior.
Why not man up, and accept that you're incorrect instead of simply twisting this into false accusations as above? Man up for once. Like I've told you in the past, you spend way too much time on here arguing and should spend some time offline learning. The context was right there in front of you, and you ignored the Word and gave false information. lolzzz....
IOW, you're wrong, so instead of receiving correction you go on some rabbit trail and make absurd assumptions and accusations. That my friend is frankly juvenile behavior.
Why not man up, and accept that you're incorrect instead of simply twisting this into false accusations as above? Man up for once. Like I've told you in the past, you spend way too much time on here arguing and should spend some time offline learning. The context was right there in front of you, and you ignored the Word and gave false information. lolzzz....
Jesus' 'sin-bar', are His Ten Commandments...
JOHN 14:15.
'If you LOVE Me, keep My Commandments'.
JOHN 15:10.
'If ye keep My Commandments, ye shall abide in My LOVE; even as I have kept
My Father's Commandments, and abide in His LOVE'.
1COR. 9:27.
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means,
when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
REV. 3:10.
Because thou hast kept The Word of My Patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation,
which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
JOHN 14:15.
'If you LOVE Me, keep My Commandments'.
JOHN 15:10.
'If ye keep My Commandments, ye shall abide in My LOVE; even as I have kept
My Father's Commandments, and abide in His LOVE'.
1COR. 9:27.
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means,
when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
REV. 3:10.
Because thou hast kept The Word of My Patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation,
which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
The whole gospel message is that we repent when we hear of what Christ has done - that He alone is our righteousness. In "it" - the gospel - the righteousness of God is revealed. Romans 1:16-17
skiniski and all sinless perfection in the flesh belief systems denies the work of Christ and the gift of righteousness and exchanges Christ's work for creating and maintaining our own righteousness. That is a perversion of the gospel. Read the OP and you will see what we are all bringing out here.
His false doctrine condemns every believer in the world. If you have sinned - you are a child of the devil and not born of God. That is his core message. He himself sins from time to time in some capacity but will not admit to that because in his own self-made religion - he would be a child of the devil and not born of God.
The whole thing is not about repenting - it's about denying the work of Christ and His righteousness for creating our own righteousness. It's anti-the gospel in it's belief system. Believing the true gospel will bring about true transformation by the Holy Spirit. 2 Cor. 3:17-18 - which results in living godly in this present world.
Just like Paul wouldn't stand for this perverting of the gospel - others don't stand for it either.
Galatians 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
W
From the beginning to the end of the bible its pages speak from the premise of obedience from a heart of sincerity.This is the forgone conclusion of the text.. It is that of an insincere heart that lusts after the desires of the flesh which will seek to change this very fundamental premise found in the word..
W
They perceive there is strength in numbers, and the Cain's of unrighteousness have always persecuted the righteous Abel's...It really shows who their real father is....sadly it seems that some might have hardened their hearts to the point of not receiving anything from God..
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The scriptures are from the start to the end the message of the love and grace of our loving Father who loves us dearly and has come to remove the thing - sin and unbelief - that was destroying those whom He loves. He did this through the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross and resurrection.
That He alone now is our life for we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God now. The whole law and the prophets speak of Him and what He has done for us by His free gift of grace and His free gift of righteousness and we access all this by faith in Him.
Obedience in the New Covenant is believing in all that Christ has already done and in this believing His life manifests in and through us to reflect His love and grace towards others in this world that need to know of our loving Father's love and grace towards them
That He alone now is our life for we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God now. The whole law and the prophets speak of Him and what He has done for us by His free gift of grace and His free gift of righteousness and we access all this by faith in Him.
Obedience in the New Covenant is believing in all that Christ has already done and in this believing His life manifests in and through us to reflect His love and grace towards others in this world that need to know of our loving Father's love and grace towards them
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you really need to talk to people. All you seem to know how to do is belittle people. Attack them, and give your opinion.
I just asked you a simple question. Which if one was really open they would understand, If repenting or asking forgiveness is REQUIRED to be forgiven, Like you were trying to Pusan with those passages.. Then the question I asked was valid.
Of course, FOr some reason you think you are above answering questions. So I will do what I said we should do earlier. And stop responding too your nonsense.. Maybe one day when your ready to discuss the word without, we can talk again.. Until then, I will just speak of doctrinal issues and no longer respond to childish behavior.
I just asked you a simple question. Which if one was really open they would understand, If repenting or asking forgiveness is REQUIRED to be forgiven, Like you were trying to Pusan with those passages.. Then the question I asked was valid.
Of course, FOr some reason you think you are above answering questions. So I will do what I said we should do earlier. And stop responding too your nonsense.. Maybe one day when your ready to discuss the word without, we can talk again.. Until then, I will just speak of doctrinal issues and no longer respond to childish behavior.
What will not "cut-it" is our unbelief in Christ's work on the cross and resurrection and our own attempts at self-righteousness.
Jesus put it this way:
Matthew 11:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
But let each person have their own faith before God. All is well...
Jesus put it this way:
Matthew 11:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
But let each person have their own faith before God. All is well...
W
A letter to George Muller by an anonymous contributor to the orphanage 1827
Hold fast the faith which God has given you by His Holy Spirit. It is the most precious treasure in this life. And it contains in itself true happiness. Only seek by watching in prayer more and more to be delivered from all vanity and self-complacency, by which even the true believer may be ensnared when he least expects it, (1 Cor. 10-12). Let it be your chief aim to be more and more humble, faithful, and quiet, (add to your faith 2 Peter 1:5-7). May we not belong to those who say and write continually Lord, Lord, but have them not deeply in their hearts. Christian faith consists not in words but in power (grace), there must be life in us, (manifest reality, and not position by proxy)…For therefore God loved us first that we might love Him in return, and that by loving we might receive power (grace), to be faithful (steadfast obedience from the heart) to Him, and to conquer ourselves, the world, distress, and death. May His Spirit strengthen you for this (once again the empowerment of grace), that you may be a messenger of His gospel. amen
Hold fast the faith which God has given you by His Holy Spirit. It is the most precious treasure in this life. And it contains in itself true happiness. Only seek by watching in prayer more and more to be delivered from all vanity and self-complacency, by which even the true believer may be ensnared when he least expects it, (1 Cor. 10-12). Let it be your chief aim to be more and more humble, faithful, and quiet, (add to your faith 2 Peter 1:5-7). May we not belong to those who say and write continually Lord, Lord, but have them not deeply in their hearts. Christian faith consists not in words but in power (grace), there must be life in us, (manifest reality, and not position by proxy)…For therefore God loved us first that we might love Him in return, and that by loving we might receive power (grace), to be faithful (steadfast obedience from the heart) to Him, and to conquer ourselves, the world, distress, and death. May His Spirit strengthen you for this (once again the empowerment of grace), that you may be a messenger of His gospel. amen
Luke 18:10-14 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
While we were yet sinners - Christ died for us.
It's no wonder some people reject Christ's righteousness for establishing their own righteousness.