ISLAM and MUSLIMS

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jaybird88 said:
it does need to make sense or it does not hold water.

would you move your wife and kids away from the home you all love to go half way around the world to a place where they hate you just to get welfare? of course you wouldnt, so why would they?
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I am just saying what they are doing. Their mentality is more about them, less about their wives or children. For example, father will get the safety vest on the sea, neither his children nor his wife, if there is only one vest. It depends. I cannot give you response for all millions of immigrants what are all their motivations. I gave you just the main, most common ones.
 
Miri said:
I never said the bible was wrong, I said the first five books of the bible
are a great foundation, a starting point for sharing the gospel
with Muslims!

How on earth you can possible twist that around i have absolutely no idea,
other than your thoughts are closed off and clouded to even the remote
possibility that the gospel message is for all.

I get that you have no interest in sharing the good news of salvation
with Muslims, and that yo don't think they deserve to know the truth
but please do not twist what others say and hinder the spreading of the gospel.

Sorry that makes me really angry, very little makes me riled up on
CC, I can overlook a lot of things. But when I see deliberate attempts to
berate a person for spreading the good news of Christ, there can only be one
source of that and I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
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I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ for pretending that the Muslims accept the foundations of truth of Christ presented in the first five books of the Bible. You think because I correct your saying maybe certain stories are a little altered but the foundations are there,that I have no desire to share the good news and that I wish to hinder the spread of the gospel. Your attitude is as disgusting as others who want to vilify me for exposing the truth. The foundations are not there when they reject pillars of Christianity, and the preeminence of Christ as per God's revealed written Word. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for being so despicable in your attempts to whitewash their rejection of Scripture, and your attempt to hide this fact behind your self righteous outrage is equally disturbing.

Also, I never accused you of saying the Bible was wrong. Please check your accusations for falseness before you fly off the handle to make me your scapegoat. You deliberately twist around what I said to make yourself look good, oh yes, I get it all right, I see it all the time, but it is a little more disappointing coming from you. I actually complimented you for speaking to Muslims as you do, and now you pretend I berate you explicitly for speaking to Muslims. Your dishonesty is despicable.
 
trofimus said:
It makes sense to them. It does not need to make sense to me or to you. Our mentality, culture and religion are different.
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getting married, having children and providing for them is not unique to western culture, they do this in every culture on the planet.
 
jaybird88 said:
with due respect that makes no sense at all. if you have a decent job and home and your family is happy why in the world would you up root them and move them a thousand miles a way to place they never been before in a culture thats nothing like their home, all that to get welfare?
we get told the same thing here, all the poor people getting welfare are abusing the system, the public believes it, welfare gets cut and the savings get passed up to the richest one percent. oldest trick in the book. cha ching!
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Caliphate,thats why.
 
jaybird88 said:
getting married, having children and providing for them is not unique to western culture, they do this in every culture on the planet.
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beating their wives, keeping them covered up, preventing them mixing in society, forcing girl into unhappy marriages?. Do they share this with Western culture too?
 
valiant said:
beating their wives, keeping them covered up, preventing them mixing in society, forcing girl into unhappy marriages?. Do they share this with Western culture too?
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Thats the soft version of what goes on. Child brides,acid thrown on them,female genital mutilation, no rights or freedoms,no defense against rapes,on and on.
 
Originally Posted by jaybird88 it does need to make sense or it does not hold water.

would you move your wife and kids away from the home you all love to go half way around the world to a place where they hate you just to get welfare? of course you wouldnt, so why would they?
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Because to them welfare is riches untold and guaranteed obtainable in a place of safety. Their alternative is to starve in their own country due to their 'love' for one another..
 
trofimus said:
It makes sense to them. It does not need to make sense to me or to you. Our mentality, culture and religion are different.
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The culture that grooms Muslim men into adulterous liars and rapists and murderers, just like their idealized person Mohammed, makes them a little just like any other brutally bloodthirsty anti Christian criminal :rolleyes: I am not sure any can truly grasp the savagery if you are not brought up in it. Getting married and having children as Jay has put forward, what is that to people who have little to no respect for life?

kaylagrl said:
Caliphate,thats why.
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Exactly.

valiant said:
beating their wives, keeping them covered up, preventing them mixing in society, forcing girl into unhappy marriages?. Do they share this with Western culture too?
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They bring their culture with them to the west, and many refuse to integrate. When world domination is their stated goal, why would they? The desire is to throw over our way of life, not embrace it.
kaylagrl said:
Thats the soft version of what goes on. Child brides,acid thrown on them,female genital mutilation, no rights or freedoms,no defense against rapes,on and on.
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valiant said:
Because to them welfare is riches untold and guaranteed obtainable in a place of safety. Their alternative is to starve in their own country due to their 'love' for one another..
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They actually have a huge illusion about the life in EU. Christians from Iraq got to the Czech Republic and then returned back to Iraq. Their ideas about Europe are unrealistic. They do not know that the high life quality in the EU is made by hard work of its citizens. They are used to live in countries where oil is almost for free and money are coming in for nothing.
Even wars are no such big deal for them (as they frequently lie to get to EU), because most of their country is safe.

Immigrants from Syria, from the poor African countries or from Pakistan are another issue, yes. Also unrealistic, but they will not return back, they will rather build small Africa or Pakistan in the EU cities.
 
trofimus said:
They actually have a huge illusion about the life in EU. Christians from Iraq got to the Czech Republic and then returned back to Iraq. Their ideas about Europe are unrealistic. They do not know that the high life quality in the EU is made by hard work of its citizens. They are used to live in countries where oil is almost for free and money are coming in for nothing.

Immigrants from the poor African countries or from Pakistan are another issue, yes. Also unrealistic, but they will not return back, they will rather build small Africa or Pakistan in the EU cities.
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They are trying to take over Australia as well. They want to create little countries within the host country, like a parasite that will devour and destroy its host. This is not the video I was looking for but a good example of what is coming as their numbers increase.

[video=youtube;bH60P3LV5ZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH60P3LV5ZQ[/video]


 
[video=youtube;a1CRTpJrDcI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1CRTpJrDcI[/video]

Australia's Senate Pauline Hanson, claimed the nation is "in danger of being swamped by Muslims." She goes on to say, "If you are not prepared to become Australian and give this country your undivided loyalty, obey our laws, respect our laws and our way of life then I suggest you go back where you came from."
 
[video=youtube;iN7eQyrDt-U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN7eQyrDt-U[/video]
 
Veteran said:
It also tells them to live peaceably with Jews and Christians.
I've read 2 different English translations of the Qur'an.
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You seem not to understand that later verses in the quran cancel out earlier verses.. The doctrine of Abrigation is established in the quran in quran 2: 106..

[video=youtube;LXBgqa-xQwY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXBgqa-xQwY[/video]
 
trofimus said:
[video=youtube;1IXsTKzOTvo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IXsTKzOTvo[/video]
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It is so heartening to know that some people at least are waking up to the truth, even as others try to hide it and vilify those who wish to advance the truth.
 
Magenta said:
It is so heartening to know that some people at least are waking up to the truth, even as others try to hide it and vilify those who wish to advance the truth.
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Do not worry, there are some countries in the EU that are against this :) V4 group, Austria and some others.

[video=youtube;xDPZbAWtEaU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDPZbAWtEaU[/video]
 
Somebody compared Christian wars like crusades to jihad like if it was comparable. It is not.

[video=youtube;c7y2LRcf4kc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7y2LRcf4kc[/video]
 
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