Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer
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I think youll have to work hard too for you to achieve Jesus status 
MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE A PERFECT MOMENT OR TWO... LOL
MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE A PERFECT MOMENT OR TWO... LOL
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.
Being Christlike is not about being "perfect" in earthly terms, it is becoming spiritually mature in kingdom terms....
Believers are children of God who walk in His ways.
If we actively choose to sow to death, then we will dry up and perish.
The difference between a problem and a choice to walk away is important.
God talks so much about His people not listening to Him, doing ceremonies, sacrifices
yet living in sin and doing evil, so He will harden their hearts and drive them away, so
show the difference between those who are faithful and righteous and those that rebel.
Some seem to hate this connection between the heart and behaviour.
After some interesting interactions it suggests to me some do not know Christ within
so everything is just about acceptance where they are, because there has never been
anything else.
When you realise theology is not neutral, it grows out of our emotional experience and
learning from our walk with Christ, so obviously as different people experience different
things so their theology reflects this.
If we actively choose to sow to death, then we will dry up and perish.
The difference between a problem and a choice to walk away is important.
God talks so much about His people not listening to Him, doing ceremonies, sacrifices
yet living in sin and doing evil, so He will harden their hearts and drive them away, so
show the difference between those who are faithful and righteous and those that rebel.
Some seem to hate this connection between the heart and behaviour.
After some interesting interactions it suggests to me some do not know Christ within
so everything is just about acceptance where they are, because there has never been
anything else.
When you realise theology is not neutral, it grows out of our emotional experience and
learning from our walk with Christ, so obviously as different people experience different
things so their theology reflects this.
Yup the word being and not a for Gone conlcusion for all thats why i said Good luck with your transformation..
What you dont understand Is Jesus was both perfect in body and spirit... which we will never be So actually 2 corintians 3:18 is not verry well teached is it..You can not have the same image as christ but you can have a good image like Good stature Meaning everwhere you go and everything you do you leave a good image..
What you dont understand Is Jesus was both perfect in body and spirit... which we will never be So actually 2 corintians 3:18 is not verry well teached is it..You can not have the same image as christ but you can have a good image like Good stature Meaning everwhere you go and everything you do you leave a good image..
No idea what you are saying here mate and the point you are trying to make.
and how that relates to you above post to my post.
Originally Posted by BillG
yes he greets beleivers as saints.
The Greek for saint is
40 hágios – properly, different (unlike), other("otherness"), holy; for the believer,
40 (hágios) means "likeness of nature with the Lord" because "different from the world."
The fundamental (core) meaning of 40 (hágios) is "different" – thus a temple in the 1st century was hagios("holy") because different from other buildings (Wm. Barclay). In the NT,
40 /hágios ("holy") has the "technical" meaning "different from the world" because "like the Lord."
[40 (hágios) implies something "set apart" and therefore "different (distinguished/distinct)" – i.e. "other," because special to the Lord.]
The word translated “saint” in the New Testament, hagios, literally means “sacred, physically pure; morally blameless or religious; ceremonially consecrated; holy.” In the context of New Testament passages, saints are those who belong to the body of Christ, saved by grace through faith. In other words, saint is another word for a Christian, a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
As saints we are Holy which is why we are called to be Holy.
To me this is why a I think Paul addresses those believers who are Holy and at the same time their sin.
We are saints who do sin.
Paul reminds them of whom they are in Jesus and as a result of their sinning behaviour they are not acting like the child of God they are.
to me in a sense we are children of God acting out of character.
Would I call a fellow believer a sinner if I see them sinning or they came to me for help with a sinful problem.
No I wouldn't, I would remind them of whom they are in Christ that through him we are being sanctified and the Holy Spirit is working in us to conform us to the image of Christ.
Beleivers are saints who will sin.
Maybe you can explain it in a simple for a simple man.
and how that relates to you above post to my post.
yes he greets beleivers as saints.
The Greek for saint is
40 hágios – properly, different (unlike), other("otherness"), holy; for the believer,
40 (hágios) means "likeness of nature with the Lord" because "different from the world."
The fundamental (core) meaning of 40 (hágios) is "different" – thus a temple in the 1st century was hagios("holy") because different from other buildings (Wm. Barclay). In the NT,
40 /hágios ("holy") has the "technical" meaning "different from the world" because "like the Lord."
[40 (hágios) implies something "set apart" and therefore "different (distinguished/distinct)" – i.e. "other," because special to the Lord.]
The word translated “saint” in the New Testament, hagios, literally means “sacred, physically pure; morally blameless or religious; ceremonially consecrated; holy.” In the context of New Testament passages, saints are those who belong to the body of Christ, saved by grace through faith. In other words, saint is another word for a Christian, a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
As saints we are Holy which is why we are called to be Holy.
To me this is why a I think Paul addresses those believers who are Holy and at the same time their sin.
We are saints who do sin.
Paul reminds them of whom they are in Jesus and as a result of their sinning behaviour they are not acting like the child of God they are.
to me in a sense we are children of God acting out of character.
Would I call a fellow believer a sinner if I see them sinning or they came to me for help with a sinful problem.
No I wouldn't, I would remind them of whom they are in Christ that through him we are being sanctified and the Holy Spirit is working in us to conform us to the image of Christ.
Beleivers are saints who will sin.
If its made perfect then why does the Bible say the soul that sins is the soul that will die ?...
Now surely this is not speaking to the soul that hasnt been perfected because we all know that the soul that hasnt been stemed by the holy spirit has a chance if your belief is true...
So surely when the bible says the soul that sins is the soul that dies is speaking to believers because we know the soul that does sin without the spirit can recieve the spirit
Now surely this is not speaking to the soul that hasnt been perfected because we all know that the soul that hasnt been stemed by the holy spirit has a chance if your belief is true...
So surely when the bible says the soul that sins is the soul that dies is speaking to believers because we know the soul that does sin without the spirit can recieve the spirit