ISLAM and MUSLIMS
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I do actually. After discussing at length things that are right under your nose, you are blind to what is explicitly said and there for everyone else to see. You then make threats to expose me for things I never denied saying! You are beyond ridiculous, and then complain after all your misrepresentations because I say you are disrespectful. You don't know the truth. Your words expose your inability to recognize it.
Nobody. It is just one of a multitude of false accusations made by double minded people.
I told you already i am done going through this with you Mag. So don't take it the wrong way if I ignore you. I already stated ill pray for you dont allow bitterness prevent you from entering the kingdom. God knows the truth that's the last thing i will say to you
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jaybird88
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i am against them being persecuted. all the muslims i have met were nice people, different but thats no reason to run them out of town with a lynch mob. many of the violent groups on tv have connections to government intelligent agencies. like sharia for britain leader anjem choudary. maybe its a crazy conspiracy yet why does the most violent islam leader get so much media coverage, there are plenty of peaceful groups but they are never heard.
we know now that the CIA had its own black panther groups that were instructed to be extra vocal and violent. to suggest that back in the 60s would have been crazy talk, but now we know they did it.
More Islamic teachings that keep Muslims from coming to Christ-
Quran 5:75 "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers who passed away before him"
Quran 4:171 "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."
Its too bad that showing how Islam is both wrong and evil is a hateful act, I guess.
Quran 5:75 "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers who passed away before him"
Quran 4:171 "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."
Its too bad that showing how Islam is both wrong and evil is a hateful act, I guess.
I see what you have posted about shirk as the the unforgivable sin. But what do you mean in terms of getting around it?
Well, go ahead and show some posts on this thread that have called for lynching of Muslims, so that we can see the error of our ways.
Muslims are taught that putting Jesus as equal with allah is the unforgivable sin, and that they will die if they do it with no chance of forgiveness.
If you are trying to get a Muslim to come to the One who is "The way and the truth and the life", you will have a hard time if they have put their faith in a teaching that tells them they cant be saved if they accept Him. So, if you cant disprove Muhammad and his teachings, how do you do it?
Good, because I have repeatedly asked you to stop talking to me and you have repeatedly brought up this issue to slam me over and over for something I did not say, and then you pretend you have something to expose me over when I have never hidden the things I did say, and in fact, they are right there for all to see, and witness how wrong you are while you pretend to have the high moral ground, while you are being dishonest over and over and over again. God have mercy on you. Hallelujah! Thank you, Lord.
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wwjd_kilden
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If someone had started this very thread, but about Christians, would you genuinely not interpret it as hate?
As hate? No. As completely inaccurate? Absolutely. Jesus never taught to kill unbelievers, nor did he do so Himself. And I would argue that, absolutely.
You called Muslim evil nutcases... and then accused someone else of saying they were evil... I wonder who you meant. You were asked and the answer was not given.
Why would it bother us even if that was the case? Christ said since the world hated him they will hate us also
I might see it as hate for Jesus, but I know why people hate Jesus. Because they dont like what He stands for. I dont hate Muhammad himself, and I think its awful that he was used as a false prophet and never repented of what he did. But I absolutely hate his teachings, yes.
They hate Jesus because their deeds are evil.
And this is the condemnation: that Light is come into the world, and
men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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wwjd_kilden
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But I am not talking about the prophets, but of people saying "Christianity is evil, their book says to stone women and to murder other tribes" ... because even though we have the NT, we DO still have the OT ... and it is easy to use things against people.
PS How do we witness to Muslims by hiding behind our screens fearing them?
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jaybird88
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i meant he left it out on his explanation.
IMO i dont think women should have to wear coverings. i dont think Paul is forbidding it nor do i think he is teaching its not and never been a tradition. it obviously was if he is teaching on it. and i think there is something to it being as there have been churches for a long time with women doing this. i think its like the chastity vows, its not for everyone, thank the Lord.
When they call Christianity evil, I argue it with other passages of the Bible, both Jesus teaching us that we are all sinners and can condemn no one because of it, and even passages in the OT where God asks those guilty of idolatry, an offense that calls for execution in the Bible, to repent and come back to Him : p And I help explain how the Bible was about Grace from the start, we are taught that we are dead under the Law, but His will is to call us to repent and live. I actually kinda appreciate the chance to do this : p
And who is saying fear them! Seriously you guys keep saying this but provide no evidence of it! The point is that Islam IS evil, its not being taken out of context and we arent twisting the quran and hadiths to fit our agenda. Its literally evil and literally calls for violence. And the point of that is that it literally has helped Muslims come to Christ. Imagine a Muslim seeing a verse in the quran that calls for killing unbelievers, and then showing them a verse in John where were told that people would kill His people, believing they offer Him service. Would that NOT be a good way to help them find the truth?
Ill share an example with you, gimme a second...