Excellent Excerpt on the Truth of Salvation and the True Gospel
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It isn't amazing or remarkable any longer to see folks like grace7 reject the Gospel's Sovereign election which is plainly taught throughout the Scriptures. So, they just make up their own gospels. Then they are given up to believe the heresies of continued revelation while bowing to the altar of covetous idolatry a.k.a. WoF/Prosperity gospel.
Is it a simple thing to believe and be saved? Read the verse before and after.....the context is another man preaching a different JESUS as opposed to the JESUS that Paul preached....and HOW EVE was beguiled by the DEVIL (verse before)
so.....I can rightfully conclude that PAUL is speaking about the JESUS he had preached and to NOT be removed from that message unto a message of another JESUS that beguiles.....
JESUS plus anything is a message that beguiles and one that REMOVES the hearers from the SIMPLICITY that is found in Christ......
SORRY....the above is in context and biblical....and no offence taken....!
AND to add....the bible is replete with saved men who removed themselves from the truth to a position of error based upon the beguiling message of some false teacher and that is the point.....
Galatians, Hebrews, Revelation (Letters to the 7 churches) all deal with this issue...........
so.....I can rightfully conclude that PAUL is speaking about the JESUS he had preached and to NOT be removed from that message unto a message of another JESUS that beguiles.....
JESUS plus anything is a message that beguiles and one that REMOVES the hearers from the SIMPLICITY that is found in Christ......
SORRY....the above is in context and biblical....and no offence taken....!
AND to add....the bible is replete with saved men who removed themselves from the truth to a position of error based upon the beguiling message of some false teacher and that is the point.....
Galatians, Hebrews, Revelation (Letters to the 7 churches) all deal with this issue...........
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God is perfectly just in leaving people to die in their sin, as he is in granting others to share in the blood of Christ. We do not deserve to be saved, it is not against the love of God to leave men and women to be punished for their own transgression.
If the Father elected the sinner to become a Christian, the Son died on the cross to save the sinner, and the Holy Spirit to convert the sinner, where then is our boasting? It is shattered into pieces.
My faith was not something I summoned up when I heared the gospel, it was produced in me by the Holy Spirit when I heard the gospel.
How can anyone call this evil? It shows that God is the Savior in all things
If the Father elected the sinner to become a Christian, the Son died on the cross to save the sinner, and the Holy Spirit to convert the sinner, where then is our boasting? It is shattered into pieces.
My faith was not something I summoned up when I heared the gospel, it was produced in me by the Holy Spirit when I heard the gospel.
How can anyone call this evil? It shows that God is the Savior in all things
I believe that 100 male angels can dance on a head of a pin...120 if they are female!
It has the same amount of value as teaching that God chooses some people on purpose to reject Christ ( and -Yes - that does condemn them to hell - whatever that turns out to be in the end ).
That is against the whole "why" of the gospel and violates the true nature of the person of God.The sovereignty of God is allowing all to chose to either believe in Christ or not to believe. It is His desire for all men to come to Him because He loves them all and Christ died for the whole world.
As I said - it takes more faith to believe that Donald Duck and Daffy Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation then for God to choose people to go to hell on purpose - no matter what semantics one uses to try to justify this belief that God chooses some people on purpose not to believe in Christ. It is an anti-Christ belief system in my mind. It vilifies the whole person and character of God.
But everyone is entitled to have their own opinion as it is a total waste of time to talk about it as it only causes strife and division. It's just a ploy from the enemy.
( just in passing - how many angels do you think can dance on the head of a pin? )
Have a great day! Bless you!
I believe that 100 male angels can dance on a head of a pin...120 if they are female!
It has the same amount of value as teaching that God chooses some people on purpose to reject Christ ( and -Yes - that does condemn them to hell - whatever that turns out to be in the end ).
That is against the whole "why" of the gospel and violates the true nature of the person of God.The sovereignty of God is allowing all to chose to either believe in Christ or not to believe. It is His desire for all men to come to Him because He loves them all and Christ died for the whole world.
As I said - there is more evidence that Donald Duck and Daffy Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation then for God to choose people to go to hell on purpose - no matter what semantics one uses to try to justify this belief that God chooses some people on purpose not to believe in Christ. It is an anti-Christ belief system in my mind. It vilifies the whole person and character of God.
But everyone is entitled to have their own opinion as it is a total waste of time to talk about it as it only causes strife and division. It's just a ploy from the enemy.
( just in passing - how many angels do you think can dance on the head of a pin? )
Have a great day! Bless you!
Its only by God's sovereignity in salvation that ANY are saved.
Now....that I can believe. So He doesn't choose on purpose some for hell and some for heaven then. If they reject Christ's sacrifice for sins then the wrath of God abides on them because they are still in their sins even though all sin has been taken by the Lamb of God.
I firmly believe that God is the originator, the sustainer and the finisher of all things. Without Christ we can do nothing.
I firmly believe that God is the originator, the sustainer and the finisher of all things. Without Christ we can do nothing.
I believe that 100 male angels can dance on a head of a pin...120 if they are female!
It has the same amount of value as teaching that God chooses some people on purpose to reject Christ ( and -Yes - that does condemn them to hell - whatever that turns out to be in the end ).
That is against the whole "why" of the gospel and violates the true nature of the person of God.The sovereignty of God is allowing all to chose to either believe in Christ or not to believe. It is His desire for all men to come to Him because He loves them all and Christ died for the whole world.
As I said - it takes more faith to believe that Donald Duck and Daffy Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation then for God to choose people to go to hell on purpose - no matter what semantics one uses to try to justify this belief that God chooses some people on purpose not to believe in Christ. It is an anti-Christ belief system in my mind. It vilifies the whole person and character of God.
But everyone is entitled to have their own opinion as it is a total waste of time to talk about it as it only causes strife and division. It's just a ploy from the enemy.
( just in passing - how many angels do you think can dance on the head of a pin? )
Have a great day! Bless you!
Scofield, in his book 'Prophecy Made Plain'(not a Scofield fan at all, but my pastor loaned it to me to read), he stated that 800 MILLION ppl had not heard the gospel. The date of the book was 1967.
A while back, a Gideon visited our church and stated the 1.3 BILLION ppl, in India alone, had not heard the gospel.
Then a while back, I think, it was 'Focus on the Family' radio program, they stated that 8 BILLION worldwide had not heard the gospel.
All three of these stats were given by non-Cals. So, those who die w/o even knowing of Christ's existence, what becomes of them on the day of Judgment.
That's not true - they still have to believe. Faith is heaven's currency for what grace has already provided in Christ.
There is a universal atonement in Christ but that is not the same as universalism. We need to respond to what grace ahs provide in Christ.
We can see a picture of this when Christ died - 2 thieves were crucified "with" Him - symbolizing the whole world. One thief believed and received Christ - the other rejected Him. God did not choose the other thief to reject Christ. That was his own choice.
There is a universal atonement in Christ but that is not the same as universalism. We need to respond to what grace ahs provide in Christ.
We can see a picture of this when Christ died - 2 thieves were crucified "with" Him - symbolizing the whole world. One thief believed and received Christ - the other rejected Him. God did not choose the other thief to reject Christ. That was his own choice.
That goes with what Paul says is the ministry we are to have to the world .
2 Corinthians 5:18-21 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation,
[SUP]19 [/SUP] namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Why would Paul be begging people to be reconciled to God if God is not going to give them the faith to believe? It's diabolical to think that God would give faith to some and not to others in order for them not to be saved. It's against the whole "why" of the gospel and the very nature of God to begin with. It's a horrible doctrine that vilifies the nature of God. The heart of man could never trust such a being as this.
Thank God for Paul said that God was in Christ - reconciling the world to Himself and He is not counting their trespasses against them because of Christ's finished work on the cross.
That is our ministry to the world. The word of reconciliation. Be reconciled yourselves to God by believing the good news of the Lord Jesus Christ. For God "so loved the world" that He gave His Son. Who so ever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.