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Ariel82

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Hey, I am too worth it.

You should tell me how much God loves me and because you love God, how much you love me.

Lol.

Now to find a puppy dog image....
 
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What happens in some minds is this :

They come to these "conclusions" about people and what they are saying from their own construct in their mind.

They then take something someone says - and "construct" what they think the other person is saying and then make a whole new meaning out of it. Then, this thought seizes their mind until "it becomes real" to them in their own thinking.

They then attack this "made up thought" as if it is real.

They then feel it is ok to call these other believers every name that is possible from being satanic, to liars, to lovers of sin, hypocrites, delusional, insult their intelligence.

This is the reason I try to limit my interaction with them and don't engage them because nothing but strife and division comes from it.

Believe me - it makes it a lot more peaceable here in CC,

Oh, I know they are still in their malice and slandering by saying things but - that's ok. Just bless them and leave them in the hands of the Lord.
 
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Ariel82

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Some spiritual strongholds take longer for God to break down.

I don't give up on anyone because God never gave up on me.

Some people call that a weakness, but I recognize it as the Holy Spirit working upon my heart.

When I am weak, He is strong.

My God is might to save
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-08YZF87OBQ
 
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I know this is shocking to some, but the bible assumes on every single page from Genesis to Revaluation that man has the natural ability to obey God...This truth is all but lost in what is known as Christianity ever since Augustine, however it is still alive and a well known fact among those of the Christian faith...

You know how false this statement is.....if this is true why the following...MAN HAS NO NATURAL ABILITY to EVEN KNOW the word much less follow it.

THE natural man RECEIVES not the things of GOD, neither can he KNOW them for they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED

THERE are NONE that seek after GOD

a. God setting in motion the reconciliation of man before he even cast down the world
b. The giving of the law<--for the lawless
c. The coming judgment of the lost<--who do not obey
d. The punishments afforded under the law for the law breakers
e. the scriptures such as...There is not a just an upon the earth that does good and sins not

etc.........

Actually, the bible speaks to the exact opposite of your man made religious rule........
 
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Ariel82

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Bible verses need Dcon...some folks never read Bible verses counter to their beliefs.

Romans 3:23 ►
New International Version
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

New Living Translation
For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God's glorious standard.

English Standard Version
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Berean Study Bible
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Berean Literal Bible
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

New American Standard Bible
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

King James Bible
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
 
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You call them lost, nutcases, without hope,etc.
These guys know Gods word. If it is shown they are wrong, we are just twisting
the word, if there interpretation is shown as just that and there are other interpretations
that is just evil blindness.

Emotionally they are shut down and locked out, they have long histories being legalists
and sincere followers of their version of faith, which they now reject.

And I am in their eyes deluded, evil, a hypocrite, a pharisee, a liar and worse, sending
people to hell etc. Now it is funny you saying I am ok until I get defensive.

We know where we stand, and I know what I share and why. So I just praise the Lord
for His light and love, the grace He fills me with daily to follow the Holy Spirit.

I defined earlier why I call those who do not focus on behaviour matters nutcases,
and it still stands. Lawlessness matters, it is the enemy of Christ.

The law is the guardian of heaven, and they literally hate this. But then they
will not be allowed access, because they do not believe they can ever be washed
clean by the blood of the lamb to be acceptable in Gods sight, a sorry reality but
true enough.

So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
2 Peter 3:14

To present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
Eph 5:27
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The irony is, dc being a military man is proud of his conformity with morality, though
his spiritual position is actually denying it, he cannot stand the idea of being related to
islamic nut cases.

Now you see the anger and the pride. It really hurts. But then winding up others, accusing
them of being of the enemy is nothing. Lol.
Dude, Back off.. I do not know why you think you are so special. Your hate is there for everyone to see. Myself and Dc has not spoken to you in weeks (we have you on ignore) yet here you are attacking a brother.

As someone said, If you can not handle the heat, You need to go away for a bit..

Your refusal to repent everyone says something to you and tries to help you is just amazing. You feel you have to defend yourself at all costs. Does that sound to you like a man who places his faith in God?

I so pray you would look deep inside your soul and see this. Because that is what it took me.. Until I could see my pride and my filth.. I continued to be like you.. I so pray you get out from under it, It is so freeing..
 
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Ariel82

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Let's stick to the topic at hand....

Is salvation by works of self righteousness or by faith in Jesus finished work on the cross?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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He's doing it cos he's lost the plot. He's lost his temper and is now going nuts. He needs to calm down, shouldn't be on this site if in this state.
Sadly, it is an ongoing thing, Every time someone tries to exhort him, this is what happens. Because he sees the exhortation as an attack.

He needs to read 1 Sam 25 and restudy the story of David, Nabal and Abigail. And how sometimes when we are angry we need to have someone exhort us like Abigail did David, Except we need to react like David did, not the way peter is doing.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If I was feeling fine and didn't have a headache and if I felt well, I'd just tell this clown to F off and go away. He don't have a right to diss DC, he's a good honourable man with good morals and is a friendly good person, and has served in the military as a marine. What has this english clown ever done? The toughest fight this clown's had is probably blowing some bubbles. He's just a clown, he has no right to diss DC. But stuff him, he's just an idiot.
Be careful bro.. Not worth getting banned.. A few of our brothers have been banned because they got so mad and said things..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Now see? You're assuming that they don't really know God. Why can't you accept that as sinful humans, we DO still sin after being saved? It's obvious satan will do ANYTHING to destroy our Christianity. We get tempted to sin, it happens every day, every single day... If we did NOT sin after being saved, we would be immortals in a mortal fallen world. and that wouldn't work too well.
When you do not think the cross is enough, And you have to work hard to maintain your salvation, you have to convince yourself you live to some level where you are not like the sinners. and are holy and righteous.

That is where those thoughts and those ideas come from. I know. I live them.. It is not a happy place. and it is why we get so angry (or I did anyway) when people came to us and tried to help us..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I sinned this morning, this afternoon, not a day goes by without me committing some sin. Not on purpose, but it just happens cos we're human.
In order to understand this, we have to understand what true sin is.

if we have a false understanding of what sin is, We may think we cna go days, or even weeks without sinning. The pharisee was a master of this.
 
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Your theology will be your judge

There is an irony about faith. You can read in what your heart desires into it all.
God provides the facts and direction, but your heart charts the compromises.

And each one will be happy with their compromise.
I see so often people reading things in, which you can invent exist if you are so
inclined. It is why making things more complicated is dangerous and excusing
anything within ones own heart is always something that leads to sin.

It is why I was so surprised by the sermon on the mount dismissal.
This is the beauty of the gospel and Jesus's heart. And it takes a lifetime
to unravel, and delve into its depths.

Another gold mine in John 15-17. So much relationship perspectives between
Christ and the Father. What beauty and truth.

I know the spirit of my enemy, and I dismiss it as irrelevant. They are lost in their
own failures and appeasement, there is nothing of value there. A broken cistern I will
not drink from.

I saw the Lord always before me. Because he is at my right hand, I will not be shaken.
Acts 2:25
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I've been called everything on here. Demon-possessed, crazy, nuts, loony, idiot, fool, a heretic, pagan, etc.. lol

It is nice I am not alone in that!! lol.. I am in good company
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Some spiritual strongholds take longer for God to break down.

I don't give up on anyone because God never gave up on me.

Some people call that a weakness, but I recognize it as the Holy Spirit working upon my heart.

When I am weak, He is strong.

My God is might to save
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-08YZF87OBQ

I love that song. The Lord used that song to speak to me while He taught me the gospel of the grace of God in Christ - even before I heard anyone else preach about it.

He would wake me up every morning with a new scripture in my spirit. I would then look that up and meditate on it. It was like getting born-again - again. It has remained like that now since that first morning.

The first thing that came into my spirit and mind that first morning was "He is mighty to save". Then later on that song came to me and I listened to it and felt the love and grace of God in such a deep way. Total acceptance of Him is what I knew to be true because of Christ's work.

Luke 1:49 (NASB)
[SUP]49 [/SUP] "For the Mighty One has done great things for me; And holy is His name.
When I started looking on the internet - I saw where others were teaching what the Lord had been showing me for months.
 
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Ariel82

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Dude, Back off.. I do not know why you think you are so special. Your hate is there for everyone to see. Myself and Dc has not spoken to you in weeks (we have you on ignore) yet here you are attacking a brother.

As someone said, If you can not handle the heat, You need to go away for a bit..

Your refusal to repent everyone says something to you and tries to help you is just amazing. You feel you have to defend yourself at all costs. Does that sound to you like a man who places his faith in God?

I so pray you would look deep inside your soul and see this. Because that is what it took me.. Until I could see my pride and my filth.. I continued to be like you.. I so pray you get out from under it, It is so freeing..
I apologize. I didn't realize yall had him on ignore.

His words just got to me on another thread when he pretended to speak for you, instead of admitting that HE was the one thinking those things.

I found the best way to stop rumors and contention is to go to the source of whom the rumor is about and ask them what they said instead of hearing it through bias filters.

I have heard Peter proclaim the salvation is by faith in what Jesus had done upon the cross...,whether he believes you must have good works to stay saved?

Probably he does.

However for me the foundation in Christ is most important because the Holy Spirit can then lead the person to His truth and light.

Anyway.

Gonna get on with my day. God bless my brothers and sisters in Christ.,may you find peace and love in Him and his promises. Thanks be to God, maker of Heaven and Earth. Glory to God who sits upon His heavenly throne.
 
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Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve; 3 not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. 4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
1 Peter 5:2-4
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What a very odd definition of work...what about God's work for and through us?

Does He get a reward?
Yes he does.

Us! I am his reward. And he cherishes me, You are also. and he cherishes you.
 
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And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
16 If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.
1 John 5:15-17