Not By Works

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eternally-gratefull

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Ariel82 said:
I apologize. I didn't realize yall had him on ignore.

His words just got to me on another thread when he pretended to speak for you, instead of admitting that HE was the one thinking those things.

I found the best way to stop rumors and contention is to go to the source of whom the rumor is about and ask them what they said instead of hearing it through bias filters.

I have heard Peter proclaim the salvation is by faith in what Jesus had done upon the cross...,whether he believes you must have good works to stay saved?

Probably he does.

However for me the foundation in Christ is most important because the Holy Spirit can then lead the person to His truth and light.

Anyway.

Gonna get on with my day. God bless my brothers and sisters in Christ.,may you find peace and love in Him and his promises. Thanks be to God, maker of Heaven and Earth. Glory to God who sits upon His heavenly throne.
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Its ok sis, When he does make things like this up, I hope and pray you, or anyone else who has questions, will come to us, and ask us.. Especially since unless someone shares it I can not see it.

I am finally caught up. Hope we cna now have some good edifying conversation.. Or at least Some more cake throwing..
 
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By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
1 Cor 15:2
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Be careful bro.. Not worth getting banned.. A few of our brothers have been banned because they got so mad and said things..
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That's true, it really isn't worth it. I get short tempered when I have headaches and am just not in the mood like I was last night. But that doesn't excuse it, I still did it and shouldn't have said it or used those words.

But I feel better today :)
 
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OwzK said:
That's true, it really isn't worth it. I get short tempered when I have headaches and am just not in the mood like I was last night. But that doesn't excuse it, I still did it and shouldn't have said it or used those words.

But I feel better today :)
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I am glad you feel better, Praise God!
 
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Only be careful, and watch yourselves closely so that you do not forget the things your eyes have seen or let them fade from your heart as long as you live. Teach them to your children and to their children after them. 10 Remember the day you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, when he said to me, “Assemble the people before me to hear my words so that they may learn to revere me as long as they live in the land and may teach them to their children.”
Deut 4:9-10
 
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May the Lord make your love increase and overflow for each other and for everyone else, just as ours does for you.
1 Thess 3:12
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Ariel82 said:
Hey, I am too worth it.

You should tell me how much God loves me and because you love God, how much you love me.

Lol.

Now to find a puppy dog image....
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When we understand God sees us as his special children. We will understand God, Love and Grace.

And eternal security and the faith rest life will all come into focus and we will be so free.. and learn true deep and understanding love for others, and became more Christ like.

Sadly, I have some ways to go..
 
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The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
John 1:5
 
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"How to hardens ones heart against rebuke: 101"

1. Tell yourself that anyone who disagrees with you is the enemy and undeserving of God's love and Your attention.

If you need help, repeat these words over and over to yourself so you can drown out the Holy Spirit trying to convict you of your sins. Because the Holy Spirit is the enemy and He wants to change your mind and set you free.

However to maintain your spiritual stronghold and wage a successful war against the knowledge of God, tell yourself this:

"I know the spirit of my enemy, and I dismiss it as irrelevant. They are lost in their
own failures and appeasement, there is nothing of value there. A broken cistern I will
not drink from."

See now you can look at the messengers sins (which are numerous) instead of God's message and holy spirit speaking through them. If anyone you can't deny has the Holy Spirit speaks up, label them appeasers and dismiss their words also.

Otherwise you might see and repent and tear down your beloved stronghold that causes you to slander and lie about people.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Let's stick to the topic at hand....

Is salvation by works of self righteousness or by faith in Jesus finished work on the cross?
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It is finished Jesus said AHHAHHAH and we are to enter into HIS rest dia faith because he has done all the heavy lifting ;)
 
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The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.
Matt 4:16
 
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Ariel82 said:
"How to gardens ones heart against rebuke: 101"

1. Tell yourself that anyone who disagrees with you is the enemy and undeserving of God's love and Your attention.

If you need help, repeat these words over and over to yourself so you can drown out the Holy Spirit trying to convict you if your sins. Because the Holy Spirit is the enemy and He wants to change your mind and set you free.
However to maintain your spiritual stronghold and wage a successful war against the knowledge of God, tell yourself this:

"I know the spirit of my enemy, and I dismiss it as irrelevant. They are lost in their
own failures and appeasement, there is nothing of value there. A broken cistern I will
not drink from."
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an attack on me is an attack on God.. God can take care of himself. He does not need my help.


Now of course, If I could just remember this more often. and practice what I preach..lol
 
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Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.
Heb 4:1
 
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eternally-gratefull said:

an attack on me is an attack on God.. God can take care of himself. He does not need my help.


Now of course, If I could just remember this more often. and practice what I preach..lol
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Hey I was still editing that .

Lol

My autocorrect does a number.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
When you do not think the cross is enough, And you have to work hard to maintain your salvation, you have to convince yourself you live to some level where you are not like the sinners. and are holy and righteous.

That is where those thoughts and those ideas come from. I know. I live them.. It is not a happy place. and it is why we get so angry (or I did anyway) when people came to us and tried to help us..
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When one believes the imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that does not work.....they will never accept the true gospel message and the genuine eternal salvation in Christ.....by default they will automatically place their trust into their own works and self.......no matter how you slice and dice it!

Psalm 32-2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Romans 4:6

Even as David also describes the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works
 
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Take delight in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart.
Psalm 37:4

I will turn your cities into ruins and lay waste your sanctuaries, and I will take no delight in the pleasing aroma of your offerings.
Lev 26:31

Then my soul will rejoice in the Lord and delight in his salvation.
Psalm 35:9

The Lord is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble.
Psalm 9:9

They all lose heart;
they come trembling from their strongholds.
46 The Lord lives! Praise be to my Rock!
Exalted be God my Savior!
47 He is the God who avenges me,
who subdues nations under me,
48 who saves me from my enemies.
You exalted me above my foes;
from a violent man you rescued me.
49 Therefore I will praise you, Lord, among the nations;
I will sing the praises of your name.
Psalm 18:45-49
 
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Ariel82 said:
Hey I was still editing that .

Lol

My autocorrect does a number.
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if I am using my IPAD.. Sometime I go back and read a post. and I am like What was I trying to say!!
 
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dcontroversal said:
When one believes the imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that does not work.....they will never accept the true gospel message and the genuine eternal salvation in Christ.....by default they will automatically place their trust into their own works and self.......no matter how you slice and dice it!

Psalm 32-2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Romans 4:6

Even as David also describes the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works
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it comes from not realizing, the cross is not only enough, it was the ONLY option.
 
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In a loud voice they were saying: “Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!”
Rev 5:12

All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.
Rev 13:8
 
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