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Rom 2:14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.
Rom 2:15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them
Rom 2:16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
Rom 2:17 But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast in God
Rom 2:18 and know his will and approve what is excellent, because you are instructed from the law;
Rom 2:19 and if you are sure that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
Rom 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth—
Rom 2:21 you then who teach others, do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal?
Rom 2:22 You who say that one must not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
Rom 2:23 You who boast in the law dishonor God by breaking the law.
Rom 2:24 For, as it is written, "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."
Rom 2:25 For circumcision indeed is of value if you obey the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision.
Rom 2:26 So, if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?
Rom 2:27 Then he who is physically uncircumcised but keeps the law will condemn you who have the written code and circumcision but break the law.
Rom 2:28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical.
Rom 2:29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.
I confess..
these scriptures have to be some of those that we wrestle with according to Peter.
Rom 2:15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them
Rom 2:16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
Rom 2:17 But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast in God
Rom 2:18 and know his will and approve what is excellent, because you are instructed from the law;
Rom 2:19 and if you are sure that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
Rom 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth—
Rom 2:21 you then who teach others, do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal?
Rom 2:22 You who say that one must not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
Rom 2:23 You who boast in the law dishonor God by breaking the law.
Rom 2:24 For, as it is written, "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."
Rom 2:25 For circumcision indeed is of value if you obey the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision.
Rom 2:26 So, if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?
Rom 2:27 Then he who is physically uncircumcised but keeps the law will condemn you who have the written code and circumcision but break the law.
Rom 2:28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical.
Rom 2:29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.
I confess..
these scriptures have to be some of those that we wrestle with according to Peter.
No your point is not clear...because you said a few posts ago the lost were judged by the 5 books of the Law. So double minded man....How can a Gentile be under the 5 books of the law...when it is clear that no gentile was under the Mosiac Law!?!?!?
What Law is an unbeliever condemned by? The Law of Sin and death is not the Mosiac Law as you said earlier...
What Law is an unbeliever condemned by? The Law of Sin and death is not the Mosiac Law as you said earlier...
What "BOOKS" do you think are referenced in condemning ALL who are not found in the book of life?
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law
Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law
Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
you have no idea or clue anda re now shouting and being the punk you are when someone calls you out on your error....
You can quote out of context verses [1 Cor 15.56] all day long to cover up your error, but you still stated that a non-beleiver is judged by the 5 books of the law..
Romans 3.19 cannot back you up here either....that is telling us why the Law came....you are trying to preach and teach that gentiles are accountable under the Mosiac law and that is not at all even close to being true..
You can quote out of context verses [1 Cor 15.56] all day long to cover up your error, but you still stated that a non-beleiver is judged by the 5 books of the law..
Romans 3.19 cannot back you up here either....that is telling us why the Law came....you are trying to preach and teach that gentiles are accountable under the Mosiac law and that is not at all even close to being true..
Brokenness is the place before the cross, to know He has healed and forgiven us, Amen.
Our hearts cry Abba Father, thank you for the forgiveness of my sins and the baptism of
the Holy Spirit and the ministry we feel.
Thank you for bringing this back to our Lords cross and His sacrifice for us, the most Holy
Place, the eternal atonement for our sins.
Now in this place would you wish harm on any other. In this place do you know forgiveness
for all who have hurt you that you would want to bring them here. Where life and death
meet, where sin is forgiven and eternity begins.
Is there for you a sense of total acceptance and just to be a servant of the King is enough?
Head knowledge. I have spoken to many who talk as if I am the one with head knowledge and
they have heart knowledge but when I talk about the heart, about love, about loneliness, hurt,
depression, the fear of death, oneness, being one with God, it is all blank.
So please tell me what you mean, because I suspect all people think they hear is what they
have experienced no more.
I have mourned for the world that does not know the peace of God that passes understanding,
for lostness and pain caused in revenge, of people torn by circumstance, born into a world with
few rights and abuse daily. So close to knowing what Christ brings, yet so far from ever knowing
this.
[video=youtube;lKM-8CZRplI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKM-8CZRplI[/video]
Our hearts cry Abba Father, thank you for the forgiveness of my sins and the baptism of
the Holy Spirit and the ministry we feel.
Thank you for bringing this back to our Lords cross and His sacrifice for us, the most Holy
Place, the eternal atonement for our sins.
Now in this place would you wish harm on any other. In this place do you know forgiveness
for all who have hurt you that you would want to bring them here. Where life and death
meet, where sin is forgiven and eternity begins.
Is there for you a sense of total acceptance and just to be a servant of the King is enough?
Head knowledge. I have spoken to many who talk as if I am the one with head knowledge and
they have heart knowledge but when I talk about the heart, about love, about loneliness, hurt,
depression, the fear of death, oneness, being one with God, it is all blank.
So please tell me what you mean, because I suspect all people think they hear is what they
have experienced no more.
I have mourned for the world that does not know the peace of God that passes understanding,
for lostness and pain caused in revenge, of people torn by circumstance, born into a world with
few rights and abuse daily. So close to knowing what Christ brings, yet so far from ever knowing
this.
[video=youtube;lKM-8CZRplI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKM-8CZRplI[/video]
a. You need to step back and apologize all I did was highlight for emphasis
b. ALL the world is guilty based upon what...THE LAW
c. The power of SIN is what...THE LAW
SO see...you have no interest in the truth or dialogue...just mouthy, uncalled for diatribe and accusations.....
And I live in Missouri....about 65 miles west of St Louis near Sullivan Missouri...be glad to meet face to face and discuss your diatribe and mouthy comments like the bolded above.....
b. ALL the world is guilty based upon what...THE LAW
c. The power of SIN is what...THE LAW
SO see...you have no interest in the truth or dialogue...just mouthy, uncalled for diatribe and accusations.....
And I live in Missouri....about 65 miles west of St Louis near Sullivan Missouri...be glad to meet face to face and discuss your diatribe and mouthy comments like the bolded above.....
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Is this after the wrath of God is poured out? or the same event?
It seems to be that there are just two laws now for all the world...the law of sin and death for all mankind. And the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus for those who believe.
I believe truthhurts is correct. And he is right in his user name. It hurts.
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Is this after the wrath of God is poured out? or the same event?
It seems to be that there are just two laws now for all the world...the law of sin and death for all mankind. And the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus for those who believe.
I believe truthhurts is correct. And he is right in his user name. It hurts.
But its ok for you to call people names and describe them as dense and other things....
You are so typical...you get called out for false teaching and then deflect it into a personal character attack...and cry like a baby that you got called a name...
You can threaten others all day wannabe, but your false bravado and threats of face to face discussion smells like grade school antics on the playground...
OH so this is DCONN's playground and he is the resident bully and cause I did not pay him my lunch money he is going to get swelled up and start something....Welcome to ignore little boy...
You are so typical...you get called out for false teaching and then deflect it into a personal character attack...and cry like a baby that you got called a name...
You can threaten others all day wannabe, but your false bravado and threats of face to face discussion smells like grade school antics on the playground...
OH so this is DCONN's playground and he is the resident bully and cause I did not pay him my lunch money he is going to get swelled up and start something....Welcome to ignore little boy...
Whatevzz dude...start something...go look in the mirror pal and if all you have is diatribe...it is obvious to all...as a matter of fact...you have been nothing but mouthy in almost every response you have made...and the offer still stands...interstate 44 out of St Louis...come see me...we can get some coffee and discuss a bunch of things
and by the way...you called me out on nothing....the universal guilt of all mankind is found under the law....and the law was weak in what it could not do dia the sinful weak flesh..no one can keep it...JEW or GENTILE and by your logic the whole OT is to be chunked and has no bearing on us whatsoever at all.....
and by the way...you called me out on nothing....the universal guilt of all mankind is found under the law....and the law was weak in what it could not do dia the sinful weak flesh..no one can keep it...JEW or GENTILE and by your logic the whole OT is to be chunked and has no bearing on us whatsoever at all.....
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