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[followjesus]

You should already know THAT answer. LOL

lol willie how you been man? Good and blessed i hope sincerely.

yeah i kinda assume because of past conversations that well probably completely disagree on the book of revelation, He seems a really nice guy i actually appreciate alot of things people write on here including him, when revelation comes up though im still putting things together from prophecy....it could be that everything he says about revelation is true im learning in a way that is taking me away from alot of what He sees in it though. but its all good that happens pretty often in any discussion forum doesnt mean we arent both the Lords.....

 

[Ahwatukee]

revelation 11:3-4 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4These are the TWO OLIVE TREES, and the TWO CANDLESTICKS standing before the God of the earth."

Yes, you are correct. But my point is that, I don't need to read Zechariah in order to understand that during the first 3 1/2 years that there is going to be two witnesses who will prophecy in the Jerusalem. In fact, Revelation gives much, much more information than Zechariah does. I don't have to know what Zechariah says about the two olive trees in order to understand what Revelation says about them.

I'm in agreement that the OT aides in giving understanding, such as the book of Daniel in regards to the beast, that little horn. But my point is that I can understand the events of Revelation without knowing the OT.

 

[Ahwatukee]

if i take the time to do so, will you honestly consider it? or will you disregard it and explain what revelation " really" means?

I wrote this in response to Johnny_B's post where he said

"The only way to understand Revelation is to know all of OT prophecy"

Revelation is a book that can be read and understood by itself. Yes, there is information in the OT that aides in giving understanding, but it is not dependent on knowing what Revelation is saying.

 

[Blain]

"I don't say things to make friends and many times have been attacked because of what i say being called a false prophet and being told I am leading his sheep into a pit of deception however when I see how the words he places on my heart to speak"

its a promise of the gospel bro that if you do that people will reject you, insult you, call you evil. im positive you know that scripture. "count it exceeding Joy when you are rejected, for the sake of the gospel for great is your reward in heaven"

earlier you said this

"For a while know god has placed on my heart to speak of the times coming so that no one can say to him why didn't you warn us? He has said many times through many of his children what is coming but who will listen?"

and i was thinking of ezekiels call to warn Gods people.

ezekiel 33:8-9 "When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 9Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul."


Gods call is serious bidness, both for those called and those who hear the word God gives them. as we hunger and seek after understanding ive always believed the gosl is to prepare us to spread the truth, even if like jonah were convinced no one will listen, or they will turn against us. Because you neve Know when someone will have thier ears open and need to hear whats in your Heart. Could be a word God gave to you that will impact them at Just the right time, or in Just the right circumstance. of course the Credit is Gods for making certain people instruments, but the person should be commended and encouraged when another recognizes thier value

Wow, i never even considered that scripture when i said that well said my friend

 

[followjesus]

Well if it is deep thought i cannot take credit, in all honesty it was all God. See i have brain damage and cannot do even simple multiplications even the way i write you would not think i have brain damage but again i cannot take credit i am literally proof that it doesn't matter what weakness or flaws we have because God is not lacking.

The only reason i can speak how i do and know the bible and understand numbers the way I do is because he lends me his understanding i myself could never understand this stuff no matter how much I tried. Seven is the number of perfection and three is a holy number with very profound depth which is why even the devil using the triangle which has three points and puts an all seeing eye in the middle of it. now normally a pattern used in the bible is seven times seven times seven or simply a pattern of the number seven being used three times. now 14 is seven times two and would normally be used three times but 13 being the third represents incompletion as it is one number from the the third 14. and the number 14 is seven plus seven so if you divide 14 by 2 you get seven and thus 2 is also a number related to this.

2 has a duel meaning to it, it represents both division and unity. it can mean either separation or it can mean bringing together depending on how it is used, for instance in marriage two beings become one and for one heart and mind body and soul however two people are or two countries or two cookies are two separate individuals.

So lets say that all these numbers are related together, now lets say these numbers are deeply intertwined with several scriptures in the bible and lets also say that these particular scriptures are somehow related to bible prophecy. You have quite deep study right there chalked with very deep and hidden truths that the average eye could never see. The bible is like an onion or the earths crust it has many many layers and hides the truth hidden within the truth and that truth is coveting an ever deeper truth

concerning this point

"and three is a holy number with very profound depth which is why even the devil using the triangle which has three points and puts an all seeing eye in the middle of it. "

He does the same thing in revelation the dragon gives His authority and power to the first beast, and then the false prophet receives the authority. an "unholy trinity" a mock of what God does.

He gives His power and authority to Jesus, Jesus Gives His to His apostles.

"The bible is like an onion or the earths crust it has many many layers and hides the truth hidden within the truth and that truth is coveting an ever deeper truth"

ABSOLUTELY.

i remember how i saw the word 20 years ago and its sooooooo much deeper and continuosly reveals more to the seeker. I have thought about this principle alot in my life, and believe that its a design of God to protect us from Knowing more than we can handle and keep up with in life...what i mean is

when we first begin we truly see the gospel as " Jesus died for my sins, i believe and in saved...the end. if we continue though its like those scriptures that we have read before, yet never saw like " why do you call me lord lord and do not what i say? i will show you what he is like..ect. or " if you love me you will obey my commands..ect" as we are renewed in our minds they are shaped by what we learn of the word. we begin with the mind of sinful man and alot of the gospel is offensive to our nature. i believe God vails this to us at the time because it would lead us to be like at horeb and say " we do not want to know anymore of what God said, or we will die"

Because by nature we see the gospel teachings and its just so different from the worlds way of living, the world conformed to sin and were born into that world with a pre disposition to desire what is forbidden by our Holy God, and to live as we choose rather than by How God teaches us. im not sure this makes sense how ive said this but, ive often considered your " onion layers" statement, and come to the conclusion its designed by God not to overload us with things we cant bear at the stage of infancy in Christ

 

[followjesus]

Wow, i never even considered that scripture when i said that well said my friend

truthfully blaine ALOT of what you have said clicks in my head as scripture, thats why i get what you are saying. even though you arent just quoting scripture after scripture, the scriptures are still in your own words. thats what i look for to recognize people. does what they are saying in thier own words, jive with scripture? i see it in alot of folks words since ive been here, what some of them are saying is truth because the " message" they are sharing is the same message in the word, and thier message doesnt rewuire me to eliminate any part of scripture


your Mind and heart are being shaped by Gods word and its evident, i just sincerely want to encourage you bro, you god some purity about you. i say this not to flatter you, but just to let you know some folks recognize that and repsect and appreciate what God is doing inside of you and that your willing to share that rather than make up your own version. thanks for that, and keep moving with the Lords direction and you cannot ever fail to grow in His light and produce the fruit desired of Gods children.

 

[followjesus]

I wrote this in response to Johnny_B's post where he said

"The only way to understand Revelation is to know all of OT prophecy"

Revelation is a book that can be read and understood by itself. Yes, there is information in the OT that aides in giving understanding, but it is not dependent on knowing what Revelation is saying.

i know you did, check out the example i gave you. bro all of the word is necassary. we couldnt understand the flood unless we understood the fall, we couldnt understand the law without understanding the state of man before the floos, we couldnt understand the judges or prophets without understanding the law, we couldnt understand the gospel without prophecy, we couldnt understand the epistles without the gospel...revelation is only a part of the prophetic events that are depicted theres only so much there. to complete the understanding requires the foundation.

cant lay a foundation without a hole, cant build a house without a foundation and a house is worthless without walls, a ceailing and roof....... Some parts of revelation are selof expalianatory i agree with that part like when John sees something, and then its explained to him thats true, but alot of it is explained to ezekiel, or daniel, or jeremiah and john knew those prophets thoroughly, so he uses imagery to explain something, but the imagery is explained elsewhere like the 2 olive trees, the 4 horsemen, the little book in Gods Hand ect im not at all saying you have no understanding, you do for sure, im saying to you theres more to learn and know and it changes perception of the book of revelation.


I sincerely hope i havent offended you man, it wasnt my intention at all. just discussing

 

[Blain]

concerning this point

"and three is a holy number with very profound depth which is why even the devil using the triangle which has three points and puts an all seeing eye in the middle of it. "

He does the same thing in revelation the dragon gives His authority and power to the first beast, and then the false prophet receives the authority. an "unholy trinity" a mock of what God does.

He gives His power and authority to Jesus, Jesus Gives His to His apostles.

"The bible is like an onion or the earths crust it has many many layers and hides the truth hidden within the truth and that truth is coveting an ever deeper truth"

ABSOLUTELY.

i remember how i saw the word 20 years ago and its sooooooo much deeper and continuosly reveals more to the seeker. I have thought about this principle alot in my life, and believe that its a design of God to protect us from Knowing more than we can handle and keep up with in life...what i mean is

when we first begin we truly see the gospel as " Jesus died for my sins, i believe and in saved...the end. if we continue though its like those scriptures that we have read before, yet never saw like " why do you call me lord lord and do not what i say? i will show you what he is like..ect. or " if you love me you will obey my commands..ect" as we are renewed in our minds they are shaped by what we learn of the word. we begin with the mind of sinful man and alot of the gospel is offensive to our nature. i believe God vails this to us at the time because it would lead us to be like at horeb and say " we do not want to know anymore of what God said, or we will die"

Because by nature we see the gospel teachings and its just so different from the worlds way of living, the world conformed to sin and were born into that world with a pre disposition to desire what is forbidden by our Holy God, and to live as we choose rather than by How God teaches us. im not sure this makes sense how ive said this but, ive often considered your " onion layers" statement, and come to the conclusion its designed by God not to overload us with things we cant bear at the stage of infancy in Christ

The unholy trinity? This is the first time i have heard anyone else say that. a while back i had a dream where Jesus and were walking and we encountered two young men and I was excited said look look it's Jesus and they just scoffed and said yea right and Jesus walked towards them with open arms saying my brothers have you lost your faith? when suddenly they transformed into a demon of some sort and grabbed me and Jesus was furious and said give him back. the demon had made me the spirit part of the unholy trinity and i had never of an unholy trinity before so when i woke up I had no idea what I just dreamed about.

But to think the unholy trinity is in scripture.... that's surprising. And as for the bible and what your saying you are very much correct. God is a clever one he made his word specifically where we can only see through the first layer or so at first however when we grow closer to him and when we are infused with more and more of his love we are able to see into the deeper layers of his word. God has always been one for the slow and steady and so we do not instantly have the ability to see into the deepest depths of his word or his heart no matter how much we may crave to, we can read the bible a trillion times and yet still be shown deeper truths as if we are reading it for the first time.

Another thing I noticed is that he made it specifically where only his own can truly read his word, Yes many can read it but they will only be able to see the first two layers at most. Only love can truly see, even a person who is a believer will only be able to see the first few layers if they are not reading it with loves eyes and to obtain loves eyes is to have his love infused into our being.

It's kind of like how one can only truly know the deepest depths of his heart if they are seeking it out of love and do not intend to keep it to themselves. I have sought after his heart exhaustively in my four years of being saved and in doing so he has taught me what love really is and what it really means to be a Christian. I seek only the deepest and most amazing of love with him for him and for all others, i want to test the waters and push the limits i want to see exactly how deep and how beautiful a kind of love and connection and bond with him can be i want to have a kind of love and closeness with him that no one has ever had with him before far beyond what anyone has ever had with him before.

This is why I seek his heart and Why i seek to be strong however I do not intend to keep these treasures to myself I want to go that far simply so I can share these treasures with everyone I want everyone to know him like this and have such a love and bond with him. The thing is one could only find him in this way if their intentions were to share it because that is just how love works it is truly a gift that keeps on giving and is impossible to keep to ones self.

 

[followjesus]

Yes, you are correct. But my point is that, I don't need to read Zechariah in order to understand that during the first 3 1/2 years that there is going to be two witnesses who will prophecy in the Jerusalem. In fact, Revelation gives much, much more information than Zechariah does. I don't have to know what Zechariah says about the two olive trees in order to understand what Revelation says about them.

I'm in agreement that the OT aides in giving understanding, such as the book of Daniel in regards to the beast, that little horn. But my point is that I can understand the events of Revelation without knowing the OT.

Not really in my opinion but maybe ur right im notto sure, i only Know that at one time i held that same belief having studied revelation for years alone, and what i understood was not at all what the rest of prophecy makes crystal clear. when you go with the word, the understanding comes from God, not our mental capacity or reasoning ability.

but i cant speak to your experience with God maybe its different for you, cant say either way. i know that in the past ive read alot of what you write about revelation and its not at all how prophecy explains it in my own experience anyways. sometimes when were convinced we got it down, it actually works against us thats a lesson i learned awhile back. But again i appreciate your input and like i said maybe its working differently for you thats possible with God....

 

[Blain]

truthfully blaine ALOT of what you have said clicks in my head as scripture, thats why i get what you are saying. even though you arent just quoting scripture after scripture, the scriptures are still in your own words. thats what i look for to recognize people. does what they are saying in thier own words, jive with scripture? i see it in alot of folks words since ive been here, what some of them are saying is truth because the " message" they are sharing is the same message in the word, and thier message doesnt rewuire me to eliminate any part of scripture


your Mind and heart are being shaped by Gods word and its evident, i just sincerely want to encourage you bro, you god some purity about you. i say this not to flatter you, but just to let you know some folks recognize that and repsect and appreciate what God is doing inside of you and that your willing to share that rather than make up your own version. thanks for that, and keep moving with the Lords direction and you cannot ever fail to grow in His light and produce the fruit desired of Gods children.

You cannot even begin to understand how much what you just said means to me not because your saying this stuff about me but because of how deeply the words he placed on my heart to speak have impacted you. My deepest joy and desire in Christ is when he uses me to impact the hearts of others, you are by far not the first person to say this stuff about me. A church bounce a lot because I have yet to find the right church for me however whenever I visit a church God uses me in ways that astonish me, so many times I will speak my heart and see this spark made in people i see inner wounds and scars being mended by god's hands simply because I spoke my heart I see people astonished and tell me how i am so wise and insightful beyond my years and how my fire and love for God is profound and how i am a rare sort.

I am not good at taking compliments and out of instinct always brush it aside and give God the credit which of course it is his, but to know and see the great impact he makes on peoples hearts simply because I speak my heart makes me cry from utter joy. I could care less if I am ever strong as a believer or if i ever have great and vast treasures and honor in heaven because simply seeing him make that spark in peoples hearts like that and to see him healing and mending inner wounds and scars and giving life and igniting that fire and passion in people using me...If he would do this all the time and in vast quantity I will live in a card board box in heaven having nothing to my name except him

 

[followjesus]

The unholy trinity? This is the first time i have heard anyone else say that. a while back i had a dream where Jesus and were walking and we encountered two young men and I was excited said look look it's Jesus and they just scoffed and said yea right and Jesus walked towards them with open arms saying my brothers have you lost your faith? when suddenly they transformed into a demon of some sort and grabbed me and Jesus was furious and said give him back. the demon had made me the spirit part of the unholy trinity and i had never of an unholy trinity before so when i woke up I had no idea what I just dreamed about.

But to think the unholy trinity is in scripture.... that's surprising. And as for the bible and what your saying you are very much correct. God is a clever one he made his word specifically where we can only see through the first layer or so at first however when we grow closer to him and when we are infused with more and more of his love we are able to see into the deeper layers of his word. God has always been one for the slow and steady and so we do not instantly have the ability to see into the deepest depths of his word or his heart no matter how much we may crave to, we can read the bible a trillion times and yet still be shown deeper truths as if we are reading it for the first time.

Another thing I noticed is that he made it specifically where only his own can truly read his word, Yes many can read it but they will only be able to see the first two layers at most. Only love can truly see, even a person who is a believer will only be able to see the first few layers if they are not reading it with loves eyes and to obtain loves eyes is to have his love infused into our being.

It's kind of like how one can only truly know the deepest depths of his heart if they are seeking it out of love and do not intend to keep it to themselves. I have sought after his heart exhaustively in my four years of being saved and in doing so he has taught me what love really is and what it really means to be a Christian. I seek only the deepest and most amazing of love with him for him and for all others, i want to test the waters and push the limits i want to see exactly how deep and how beautiful a kind of love and connection and bond with him can be i want to have a kind of love and closeness with him that no one has ever had with him before far beyond what anyone has ever had with him before.

This is why I seek his heart and Why i seek to be strong however I do not intend to keep these treasures to myself I want to go that far simply so I can share these treasures with everyone I want everyone to know him like this and have such a love and bond with him. The thing is one could only find him in this way if their intentions were to share it because that is just how love works it is truly a gift that keeps on giving and is impossible to keep to ones self.

amen man, i remember reading your words when i first came here, and always your motivation shows clearly.

that dream is deep stuff. the false prophets in the word being a wolf in sheeps clothing rings in my heart after reading that. Jesus Gave the truth, and warned of many false prophets who would come claiming Christ but by twisting His word with selfish motivations, they reveal themselves to be copies of the serpent in eden. telling a person what sounds great and even has a few verses to support it, omit some, twist another few and then you have exactly what satan did to adam and eve...anything to twist and omit in order to deceive from false motivation.


I believe you are going to go far may i ask how old you are ?

 

[Blain]

amen man, i remember reading your words when i first came here, and always your motivation shows clearly.

that dream is deep stuff. the false prophets in the word being a wolf in sheeps clothing rings in my heart after reading that. Jesus Gave the truth, and warned of many false prophets who would come claiming Christ but by twisting His word with selfish motivations, they reveal themselves to be copies of the serpent in eden. telling a person what sounds great and even has a few verses to support it, omit some, twist another few and then you have exactly what satan did to adam and eve...anything to twist and omit in order to deceive from false motivation.


I believe you are going to go far may i ask how old you are ?

Wow that actually makes sense, i was a little confused as to why the unholy trinity was in my dream and also why I was the spirit part of it but what you said makes it seem much more understandable.
I am 25 years old though you wouldn't know it if you saw me as my body looks like a 14 year old lol

 

[followjesus]

You cannot even begin to understand how much what you just said means to me not because your saying this stuff about me but because of how deeply the words he placed on my heart to speak have impacted you. My deepest joy and desire in Christ is when he uses me to impact the hearts of others, you are by far not the first person to say this stuff about me. A church bounce a lot because I have yet to find the right church for me however whenever I visit a church God uses me in ways that astonish me, so many times I will speak my heart and see this spark made in people i see inner wounds and scars being mended by god's hands simply because I spoke my heart I see people astonished and tell me how i am so wise and insightful beyond my years and how my fire and love for God is profound and how i am a rare sort.

I am not good at taking compliments and out of instinct always brush it aside and give God the credit which of course it is his, but to know and see the great impact he makes on peoples hearts simply because I speak my heart makes me cry from utter joy. I could care less if I am ever strong as a believer or if i ever have great and vast treasures and honor in heaven because simply seeing him make that spark in peoples hearts like that and to see him healing and mending inner wounds and scars and giving life and igniting that fire and passion in people using me...If he would do this all the time and in vast quantity I will live in a card board box in heaven having nothing to my name except him

Thats where the Joy truly comes from in the holy spirit. there is nothing like seeing that spark in another person especially when you spend time in discussion with them, i have noticed and believe firmly that those in the world who are needy, full of sorrow, addicted to things those who have been tossed aside by the world, those people are ready to accept the word far more than a person who has plenty and lives a happy life and have many friends ect.

i guess " blessed are the poor, the meek, those who mourn, the peacemakers ect is still very valid


Tukipendana ili kumpenda Mungu

 

[followjesus]

Wow that actually makes sense, i was a little confused as to why the unholy trinity was in my dream and also why I was the spirit part of it but what you said makes it seem much more understandable.
I am 25 years old though you wouldn't know it if you saw me as my body looks like a 14 year old lol

wow definately beyond your years man, God has use for you, probably far beyond your expectations i wish i had the grasp you have now when i was 25, i had the scriptures but lacked the spiritual insight, i assume now because i was living terribly contrary to the word even though i knew alot of scripture it wasnt really deep at that time. I see alot of potential for you man imna be praying for God to make use of you in many ways.

 

[followjesus]

Wow that actually makes sense, i was a little confused as to why the unholy trinity was in my dream and also why I was the spirit part of it but what you said makes it seem much more understandable.
I am 25 years old though you wouldn't know it if you saw me as my body looks like a 14 year old lol

yep that sort of goes to my thinking of revelation being spiritual events in some places Like the locusts and demons and things that the seals bring forth. i see those things as spirits that inhabit people, and kill spirtually at least some parts i see that way. like the final Judgement is described 3 times in revelation alone. so im not really seeing it as a chronilogical physical event parts of it sure, but not as a whole. i think thats why when you said demons i rang with false prophets. i imagine evil spirits are inhabiting false prophets and those evil spirits are part of the things released into the earth spiritually already.

 

[Blain]

wow definately beyond your years man, God has use for you, probably far beyond your expectations i wish i had the grasp you have now when i was 25, i had the scriptures but lacked the spiritual insight, i assume now because i was living terribly contrary to the word even though i knew alot of scripture it wasnt really deep at that time. I see alot of potential for you man imna be praying for God to make use of you in many ways.

He already has my friend, just yesterday I was speaking to him saying father i know i am not the strongest and I know i am lacking in many ways and I am not the most obedient child but if there is one thing i am it's willing. So father if you could use my willingness I desperately want you to use me to speak and to make that impact in peoples hearts and to make that spark.

Then you came around honestly i was shocked how quickly he answered my prayer lol.

As for me being how i am as young as i am I believe i can answer that for you. You see if you have read my testimony you will see I have had a very gruesome and very sad past and my mind and body do not work as good as everyone else. I have a hard time understanding simple orders and likely cannot ever live on my own in the ways of the world i am weak i cannot drive i cannot work I cannot even handle my own doctor appoints it's to much for my mind to handle.

Everything i went through in life made me this way but in a way it makes sense because while I may have been made weak in the ways of the world he seems to have made me strong in his. I have been saved for almost five years now and in this time even I have noticed how he has made me so strong in him and in his love far more than someone should be at my limited time of faith not that i myself can boast of course.

I believe that the reason he made me so strong in him was specifically because of the way my life made me weak in this world.

 

[Blain]

yep that sort of goes to my thinking of revelation being spiritual events in some places Like the locusts and demons and things that the seals bring forth. i see those things as spirits that inhabit people, and kill spirtually at least some parts i see that way. like the final Judgement is described 3 times in revelation alone. so im not really seeing it as a chronilogical physical event parts of it sure, but not as a whole. i think thats why when you said demons i rang with false prophets. i imagine evil spirits are inhabiting false prophets and those evil spirits are part of the things released into the earth spiritually already.

You are correct in your thinking, i haven't had very many dreams or visions about the tribulation but the few i have seen I saw very horrific things that don't even belong in horror movies i saw dismembered bodies everywhere and blood was soaked in the ground everywhere you went even the grass was red from it and no one had much food or clean water and even the common cold became a death sentence people were also slaughtering each other father would turn against daughter mother would turn against son even little infants were being slaughtered it was horrifying and they did without even the slightest remorse i honestly couldn't believe that darkness could be this strong in people.

I saw also that these people has this dark smoke either surrounding or coming out of them and the smoke saw me and laughed because it saw my tears and concern for the people they were inhabiting. that is only part of what i saw but when you spoke about spirits inhabiting people it brought to my mind that part of the dream I saw

 

[followjesus]

He already has my friend, just yesterday I was speaking to him saying father i know i am not the strongest and I know i am lacking in many ways and I am not the most obedient child but if there is one thing i am it's willing. So father if you could use my willingness I desperately want you to use me to speak and to make that impact in peoples hearts and to make that spark.

Then you came around honestly i was shocked how quickly he answered my prayer lol.

As for me being how i am as young as i am I believe i can answer that for you. You see if you have read my testimony you will see I have had a very gruesome and very sad past and my mind and body do not work as good as everyone else. I have a hard time understanding simple orders and likely cannot ever live on my own in the ways of the world i am weak i cannot drive i cannot work I cannot even handle my own doctor appoints it's to much for my mind to handle.

Everything i went through in life made me this way but in a way it makes sense because while I may have been made weak in the ways of the world he seems to have made me strong in his. I have been saved for almost five years now and in this time even I have noticed how he has made me so strong in him and in his love far more than someone should be at my limited time of faith not that i myself can boast of course.

I believe that the reason he made me so strong in him was specifically because of the way my life made me weak in this world.

Brother had you been a strong healthy popular successful in every way man......you may Have never found Jesus in the way you have. again you are speaking scripture

2 corinthians 12:7-10 "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 8For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong."

and even moreso

1 corinthians 1:26-31 "For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."


you are an inspiration bro, honestly. I am glad you are who you are and have been through so much, i dont mean that in a negative way, but like you said thats part of what brought you into who you are now in Christ

 

[tanakh]

This refers to Spiritual and earthly authorities. In the story of Joseph and his brothers. Joseph dreams of them together with his Parents bowing down to him and he sees them represented as the Sun Moon and Stars.

 

[followjesus]

You are correct in your thinking, i haven't had very many dreams or visions about the tribulation but the few i have seen I saw very horrific things that don't even belong in horror movies i saw dismembered bodies everywhere and blood was soaked in the ground everywhere you went even the grass was red from it and no one had much food or clean water and even the common cold became a death sentence people were also slaughtering each other father would turn against daughter mother would turn against son even little infants were being slaughtered it was horrifying and they did without even the slightest remorse i honestly couldn't believe that darkness could be this strong in people.

I saw also that these people has this dark smoke either surrounding or coming out of them and the smoke saw me and laughed because it saw my tears and concern for the people they were inhabiting. that is only part of what i saw but when you spoke about spirits inhabiting people it brought to my mind that part of the dream I saw

dreams and visions have always been a part of communication with God. when i was 14 i died having commited suicide, was then revived and placed on life support for 3 weeks. The doctors told my parents that if i survived i would be a vegetable that they should consider shutting of my life support. during the time i was out i saw things that i never have spoken of to anyone nor probably will i speak of them to anyone, im absolutely convinced there was a divine meaning and purpose for the things i saw some were terrible, sooo terrible and so vivid ...sight, smells sounds more real than what i experience now.

Other things were wonderful and the definition of peaceful back and forth i went from terror to peace from sorrow and shame to Joy and wonder, amazement..... of course science would explain how our sub conscience acts in that condition, but lol im not much of a scientific mind so i believe it was something from God. anyways I after three weeks woke up and was out of the hospital 2 days later with a clean bill of health after that experience.


so i definately would pray about some of those dreams. that time in my life was the only thing i ever had happen to me like that. i do believe that God communicates to some through dreams and visions so if i were you i would definetaly explore some of those dreams sounds like spiritual stuff to me