is it right to spank r kids

[BrainEatBible]

A more severe non-violent method that has long lasting psychological consequences is to take their favourite toy or teddy bear, then cut its head off or smash it on the ground.

I guess i severly punished my sisters, LOL but they deserved it.

 

[Slepsog4]

The reason a rod is a good tool rather than the hand is precisely because we should love, help, and hold with our hands...the rod is for discipline.

 

[imoss]

fyi, that wasnt a spanking. Just so you know.

 

[VW]

fyi, that wasnt a spanking. Just so you know.

i love your avatar imoss.

in his love,
vic

 

[imoss]

Thanks, got it from the role of a woman thread... Thats me in snail's mind lol! & honestly I love snails mind, he makes me laugh!

 

[VW]

Thanks, got it from the role of a woman thread... Thats me in snail's mind lol! & honestly I love snails mind, he makes me laugh!

one thing i have learned from the lord is how to laugh at myself.

have a blessed night,
vic

 

[artistic_dreams]

i thoroughly believe in spanking...but not in beating ......but everyone is different....where as i had to whoop the boys a lil more....my daughter responds better to being cut off from her social life....she utterly hates it...she honestly wishes i would whoop her butt and get it over with...so i dont do it lol....some parents approve and others dont.....it varies between kids...thats all

 

[nanabean]

This is not the first thread on spanking, nor will it probably be the last!! I just wanted to say that I feel that alot of times the word "spank" is taken in many different ways. To ME, a spank on the bottom is very different than hitting!!! and by FAR different than a beating!!! A spanking should never leave a mark, let alone a bruise. (any thing beynd a bruise...well I won't even go there!! *shudders*) With that being said, I also think posting back and forth, risking even getting upset with each other for not agreeing on the subject, probably gets us all nowhere fast, because like it not, we each have our own viewpoints and opinions and probably won't be swayed, nor be able to sway another. One thing I do seem to notice is that the majority of those saying they would never spank, have been what sounds to me to have been abused ? no?? ...whereas those who say they would or do spank, have said they have been spanked as a child and benifited from it. I feel that if used appropriatly, in moderation, and with sensibility, a swat on the tuchus with an open hand (sexual arousal??? noooo way!!!!) ...can be effective and done with love and guidance. I also think other forms of disipline can and should be considered and used, and that what works for one child, may not work for another. As for someone's comment about disiplining a spouse......well there's a whole 'nother thread on that subject too! but I will say that's not in the same realm as a parent/child relationship.

 

[mpaper345]

God said to physically discipline your kids for they will not die and you will drive hell out of them.

The Bible says a rod for a fools back.A fool is someone that will not do right even though you have told them a lot of times.The only way that they will learn is to physically discipline them.

I do not believe that you should spank your kids for everything they do wrong for that is not what God means but if they repeately do wrong after you have told them not to do it several times then the only way they will stop doing wrong is if you physically discipline them which they will not die and they will benefit by doing what is right because they do not want to be physically disciplined.

Matt

 

[pinkie]

check out physical discipline and sexual arousal sites on the internet.check out christain sites that are against physical discipline brother and discuss the issue at hand...not me. thanks blessings

First and foremostly.. I was spanked as a child. Always with love, restraint and never in anger. If my father felt the need to physically discipline, it was always with his hand,never angry, and never leaving marks more than redness,merely hard enough so i knew what I'd done wrong.
If my wife has something different in mind, I will look at it, but as I stand now, physical discipline without anger and consistently applied for certain behaviors, works just fine and as far as i can tell, is never spoken against within Scripture.

Now, four things to think over and perhaps clarify if you wouldn't mind, sister,
1) to tell me what i can't do because of my experience, before, telling me i need to look at scripture. Hmmm.
2) Comparing smacking your partner to disciplining your child is ludicrous. You are guiding children, a marriage is two people coming together to make one.
3) writing out bible verses as a form of punishment? associating Scripture to punishment rather than grace for trivial punishments? instead of anything else? even discipling your children physically? Interesting.
4) What studies are you citing with this? smacking children on the bottom can cause sexual arousal. Could you provide the case study involved? Do you think that maybe, if the issues underlined in said study, are there, (yes, im aware of these studies) perhaps it was from something other than merely being "smacked" in love, restraint, and without anger? Perhaps, nearly anything other?

 

[imoss]

wow, this is disgusting... do you honestly think normal folks feel aroused spanking their kids. Thats just weird and absolutely not the norm. This post has no place in to spank or not to spank debate for it is irrelevant to the debate at hand.

 

[lil-rush]

This is not the first thread on spanking, nor will it probably be the last!! I just wanted to say that I feel that alot of times the word "spank" is taken in many different ways. To ME, a spank on the bottom is very different than hitting!!! and by FAR different than a beating!!! A spanking should never leave a mark, let alone a bruise. (any thing beynd a bruise...well I won't even go there!! *shudders*) With that being said, I also think posting back and forth, risking even getting upset with each other for not agreeing on the subject, probably gets us all nowhere fast, because like it not, we each have our own viewpoints and opinions and probably won't be swayed, nor be able to sway another. One thing I do seem to notice is that the majority of those saying they would never spank, have been what sounds to me to have been abused ? no?? ...whereas those who say they would or do spank, have said they have been spanked as a child and benifited from it. I feel that if used appropriatly, in moderation, and with sensibility, a swat on the tuchus with an open hand (sexual arousal??? noooo way!!!!) ...can be effective and done with love and guidance. I also think other forms of disipline can and should be considered and used, and that what works for one child, may not work for another. As for someone's comment about disiplining a spouse......well there's a whole 'nother thread on that subject too! but I will say that's not in the same realm as a parent/child relationship.

words of wisdom, this.

 

[Matthew]

This is not the first thread on spanking, nor will it probably be the last!! I just wanted to say that I feel that alot of times the word "spank" is taken in many different ways. To ME, a spank on the bottom is very different than hitting!!! and by FAR different than a beating!!! A spanking should never leave a mark, let alone a bruise. (any thing beynd a bruise...well I won't even go there!! *shudders*) With that being said, I also think posting back and forth, risking even getting upset with each other for not agreeing on the subject, probably gets us all nowhere fast, because like it not, we each have our own viewpoints and opinions and probably won't be swayed, nor be able to sway another. One thing I do seem to notice is that the majority of those saying they would never spank, have been what sounds to me to have been abused ? no?? ...whereas those who say they would or do spank, have said they have been spanked as a child and benifited from it. I feel that if used appropriatly, in moderation, and with sensibility, a swat on the tuchus with an open hand (sexual arousal??? noooo way!!!!) ...can be effective and done with love and guidance. I also think other forms of disipline can and should be considered and used, and that what works for one child, may not work for another. As for someone's comment about disiplining a spouse......well there's a whole 'nother thread on that subject too! but I will say that's not in the same realm as a parent/child relationship.

I have a memory of saying the same thing, this is an issue on which people draw their opinions off their own experience and not an objective assement, I know I do that as well because I was spanked and it did me and my unruly brothers a world of good, cannot imagine how I might be toady if it weren't for that discipline.

Most people I know who passionately argue against often speak about being bruised and hit with objects when they were young and they can't dissasociate any kind of physical discipline from the abuse they suffered, it's why it's often hard to discuss it because there is so much passion and personal history reinforcing all our views that we sometimes become stubborn when talking about it, but spanking is just an action, it's what's in the hearts and minds of our parents when they do it that defines if it is good or bad.

 

[Dread_Zeppelin]

This is not the first thread on spanking, nor will it probably be the last!! I just wanted to say that I feel that alot of times the word "spank" is taken in many different ways. To ME, a spank on the bottom is very different than hitting!!! and by FAR different than a beating!!! A spanking should never leave a mark, let alone a bruise. (any thing beynd a bruise...well I won't even go there!! *shudders*) With that being said, I also think posting back and forth, risking even getting upset with each other for not agreeing on the subject, probably gets us all nowhere fast, because like it not, we each have our own viewpoints and opinions and probably won't be swayed, nor be able to sway another. One thing I do seem to notice is that the majority of those saying they would never spank, have been what sounds to me to have been abused ? no?? ...whereas those who say they would or do spank, have said they have been spanked as a child and benifited from it. I feel that if used appropriatly, in moderation, and with sensibility, a swat on the tuchus with an open hand (sexual arousal??? noooo way!!!!) ...can be effective and done with love and guidance. I also think other forms of disipline can and should be considered and used, and that what works for one child, may not work for another. As for someone's comment about disiplining a spouse......well there's a whole 'nother thread on that subject too! but I will say that's not in the same realm as a parent/child relationship.

AGREED and WELL SAID.

 

[Vidy]

nothing wrong with spanking kids.... after a point, it's ineffective, and past that point, it's probably counterproductive, but there's definitely nothing wrong with it.

I was spanked, and I'm fine =D I'll polly spank my kids if they do stupid stuff. If you honestly think a 4 year old can comprehend, "Don't do that, because it hurts me when you do that, and I love you and I don't want you to hurt me" and then actually stop doing it, you have high expectations. It'll prolly make 'em feel a little guilty, then they won't do anything with that guilt and just go ahead and do it again. Physical pain always hurts, it'll stop 'em eventually XD

And as stated before, it should NOT be abuse and it SHOULD be used moderately. it should never leave the bottom, and it shouldn't leave any cuts or bruises. A minor mark that lasts less than a coupla days isn't a big deal either as long as it's not the norm.

 

[Indra]

someone told me we need to spank r kids what do u think?

If I would tell you to jump of a bridge, would you? You know what is right and what is wrong.

 

[machew]

This relates to this topic. Danny states some pretty interesting stuff on why we punish our kids.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH5Ghx46zfA[/video]

 

[pinkie]

sorry you guys got it mistaken........there are reports from child psychologists that spanking a child on the bottom is too close to genitals and can cause arousal in children...i said nothing about their parents being aroused when they smack their kid.. that was not the subject at hand.and to think that arousing children is ok? well i would not even suggest such a thing. that would be pretty sick. people who arent even willing to consider this proffessional advice obviously are not open to considering better ways to discipline their children or at least for people who agree to smacking their child to consider smacking them on the leg or hand instead . i believe that every parent at some point has smacked their child. and every parent has got angry with their child too. we are human....not super human.i think we need to keep an open mind to better ways to discipline children and listen to proffessionals who have done many more studies than we have and consider what is best for our children. not what is easiest for us. what would Jesus do? i agree we need to stop attacking each other.this christian chat site seems to do alot of attacking one another and not discussing the subject . which i find bizarre for people who are suppose to be representing Jesus Christ. there will always be debate over whether to smack as a disipline or not. its a way that has been used for many years .....i think we need to use every other option before we use physical discipline. we are human beings with reasoning minds. not animals.and as for smacking your wife....well why would someone even ask such a question?? now that for me is quite frightening...but who are we to judge. thanks and Blessings

 

[silverwind]

i think i should've had far more spankings as a child than i did... maybe then i wouldn't be so naughty today (lol!)

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

sorry you guys got it mistaken........there are reports from child psychologists that spanking a child on the bottom is too close to genitals and can cause arousal in children...i said nothing about their parents being aroused when they smack their kid.. that was not the subject at hand.

Give me one well circulated, peer-reviewed study that shows this. How ridiculous can you get? Are children also aroused when they poop? (since proximity is the main thrust of this reasoning)

and to think that arousing children is ok? well i would not even suggest such a thing. that would be pretty sick.

For the uninitiated, this is an example of a strawman argument. When a person makes something up and then attacks the phantom of their own imagination they are engaged in dishonest dialogue.

people who arent even willing to consider this proffessional advice obviously are not open to considering better ways to discipline their children or at least for people who agree to smacking their child to consider smacking them on the leg or hand instead .

There are far more credible studies that show smacking a child on the hand is dangerous because of the way it affects the heart. The duff is the best place to spank exactly because of its cushioning and ability to spread the force of the blow and not cause lasting damage.

i believe that every parent at some point has smacked their child. and every parent has got angry with their child too. we are human....not super human.

Notice the subtle hint that parents spank their children only because they lose control and do so out of anger and frustration. Notice also the use of the word "smack". This poster must be well versed in liberal spin-doctoring.

i think we need to keep an open mind to better ways to discipline children and listen to proffessionals who have done many more studies than we have and consider what is best for our children. not what is easiest for us.

Spanking is "easy" for parents? Professionals like Dr. Spock?

what would Jesus do? i agree we need to stop attacking each other.this christian chat site seems to do alot of attacking one another and not discussing the subject . which i find bizarre for people who are suppose to be representing Jesus Christ. there will always be debate over whether to smack as a disipline or not. its a way that has been used for many years .....

Jesus is against discipline? So you got Jesus on your side of this argument? You should read the Bible a little more. Start with Revelation 6:16 which talks about the wrath of the Lamb.

i think we need to use every other option before we use physical discipline. we are human beings with reasoning minds. not animals.and as for smacking your wife....well why would someone even ask such a question?? now that for me is quite frightening...but who are we to judge. thanks and Blessings

I knew a mother that would, at every opportunity possible, exclaim self righteously how she would never spank her daughter. She thought her daughter was a perfect little angel. The rest of us knew her to be a lying brat. Perhaps the bubble will finally burst for some of these liberal parents when their children end up dead or in prison. I have scant hope.

In Christ's most Sacred Heart