Well just so you know I agree with you, and I know God loves and wants Muslims saved. Honestly I think we as Christians need to confront these things head to head a lot more often than we do (in general) , but we do need to love them. I think talking with them about the truth is a great way to express that love. I think I understand the point you are making and agree if I'm right. I do think there is a right way and a wrong way to go about this, and we are told to share the truth in love. I just didn't see anyone here attacking or blaming the Muslim people for anything, just condemning the ideology and religion of Islam, if there was someone just focusing on Muslim people I wanted to read it and make a comment if that was what they were doing.
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Repent is closely related to Confess. And it involves more than just a different way to look at things:
The most common term in the Old Testament for repentance is sub; the verbal forms appear well over 1, 050 times, although translated "repent" only 13 times, and the substantive "repentance" occurs only once in the New International Version. More commonly the translation is "turn" or "return." A related term is naham, which is translated three times as "repent" in the New International Version. In the New Testament, the most common verb is metanoeo (33 times) and the noun metanoia (20 times). A synonym metamelomai is once translated "repent." (Matt. 21:32).
Two requisites of repentance included in sub are "to turn from evil, and to turn to the good." Most critical theologically is the idea of returning to God, or turning away from evil. If one turns away from God, apostasy is indicated. Three times Ezekiel included God's call to the people of Israel: "Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices!" ( 14:6); "Repent! Turn away from all your offenses" ( 18:30 ); "Turn! Turn from your evil ways" ( 33:11).
Such a call was characteristic of the prophets (see, e.g., Isa. 45:22; 55:7 ; Joel 2:12-13 ). The Septuagint underlines this idea by usually translating sub by epic (apo-)strophe (to turn about, or to turn away from). To be abandoned are both evil intentions and evil deeds, and both motive and conduct are to be radically changed. A striking example is found in Isaiah 1:16-17: "Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow."
One may detect two sides to this turning/converting. There is the free sovereign act of God's mercy, and a conscious decision to turn to God (a turning that goes beyond sorrow and contrition).
Confession of sins is both commanded and frequently illustrated (e.g., in the penitential prayers, as Pss. 25 and 51). When one is guilty of various sins, "he must confess in what way he has sinned" in order to receive atonement and forgiveness ( Lev. 5:5; 26:40-42 ). Thus, confession belongs to repentance, and is needed for divine forgiveness (1 John 1:9 ). A great prophecy/ promise is given in the Book of Isaiah: "The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins" ( 59:20).
Its not a hocus-pocus word but it is an intentional word.
The most common term in the Old Testament for repentance is sub; the verbal forms appear well over 1, 050 times, although translated "repent" only 13 times, and the substantive "repentance" occurs only once in the New International Version. More commonly the translation is "turn" or "return." A related term is naham, which is translated three times as "repent" in the New International Version. In the New Testament, the most common verb is metanoeo (33 times) and the noun metanoia (20 times). A synonym metamelomai is once translated "repent." (Matt. 21:32).
Two requisites of repentance included in sub are "to turn from evil, and to turn to the good." Most critical theologically is the idea of returning to God, or turning away from evil. If one turns away from God, apostasy is indicated. Three times Ezekiel included God's call to the people of Israel: "Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices!" ( 14:6); "Repent! Turn away from all your offenses" ( 18:30 ); "Turn! Turn from your evil ways" ( 33:11).
Such a call was characteristic of the prophets (see, e.g., Isa. 45:22; 55:7 ; Joel 2:12-13 ). The Septuagint underlines this idea by usually translating sub by epic (apo-)strophe (to turn about, or to turn away from). To be abandoned are both evil intentions and evil deeds, and both motive and conduct are to be radically changed. A striking example is found in Isaiah 1:16-17: "Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow."
One may detect two sides to this turning/converting. There is the free sovereign act of God's mercy, and a conscious decision to turn to God (a turning that goes beyond sorrow and contrition).
Confession of sins is both commanded and frequently illustrated (e.g., in the penitential prayers, as Pss. 25 and 51). When one is guilty of various sins, "he must confess in what way he has sinned" in order to receive atonement and forgiveness ( Lev. 5:5; 26:40-42 ). Thus, confession belongs to repentance, and is needed for divine forgiveness (1 John 1:9 ). A great prophecy/ promise is given in the Book of Isaiah: "The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins" ( 59:20).
Its not a hocus-pocus word but it is an intentional word.
So when John the Baptist and Jesus spoke to those devout, God-Fearing, very religious Jewish pilgrims traveling day after day in the hot sun on dusty roads to come to Jerusalem each year to offer animal sacrifices for their transgressions..... and before saying anything else, said "Repent!", you believe they were telling them to turn from their sinful lives? Really?
And when the Bible said (28 times) that God "repented" it was telling us that God had to turn from His sins? That God had gotten off course, and had to straighten up His life?
And when the Bible said (28 times) that God "repented" it was telling us that God had to turn from His sins? That God had gotten off course, and had to straighten up His life?
I too can agree with your idea here, but what we all must learn is even when we of moral direction, choose to go forward in front of God, without His commissioning us intuitively, we are operating in the flesh. Anything done in our flesh is not of any spiritual value for God to use.
We must remain in His Spiritual Chain of Command in way of commissioning our efforts - always. In His timing of things we know we are of His will. Some of us need , even, to realize He will not call on us to say anything.
Otherwise we leave God's power to serve man, instead of serving God, thru Christ for the sake of man. When you say, "...I think we as Christians need to confront these things head-to-head...." That is not my position, because that has not been my spirits position.. I must wait on the Lord to commission me to do His will according to His Word and according to His Spirit directing my spirit to serve when He sees fit in the real-time of the moment. Otherwise it has no spiritual value, despite even the morality in it if served from the way of our flesh..
We must remain in His Spiritual Chain of Command in way of commissioning our efforts - always. In His timing of things we know we are of His will. Some of us need , even, to realize He will not call on us to say anything.
Otherwise we leave God's power to serve man, instead of serving God, thru Christ for the sake of man. When you say, "...I think we as Christians need to confront these things head-to-head...." That is not my position, because that has not been my spirits position.. I must wait on the Lord to commission me to do His will according to His Word and according to His Spirit directing my spirit to serve when He sees fit in the real-time of the moment. Otherwise it has no spiritual value, despite even the morality in it if served from the way of our flesh..
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Interesting table from Dr.Bill Warner...
they call Jesus ONLY a prophet
they compare him to mohammad who was a pedofile and just a sinner and false teacher
saying you dont believe in Jesus doesnt make you hate a non believer
but saying you know him
and put him on the level or just BELOW a pedofile
is really offensive (maybe why some hate)
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Your etymology study of that word might need to be explored, in relationship to your conclusions about God, but suffice it to say Yes - John the Baptist understood He was sent ahead of Jesus, admittedly, Jesus being the more important one, to preface Christ Himself. We see this repeated with others as well in Scripture. There is always death in life, otherwise there is no life, there would be only a continuance of what it was we were unable to get out of; namely eternal death and judgement.. You focus your story on the sweating people of God, while I am focusing on the life that comes thru the Cross. We all must have a spirit of repentance at all times. We must be meek, and humble and fear God in our countenance to give us our loft in things of Him versus things of this world.. There was repenting and repentance. Baptism without a death unto life is not a Baptism at all. If you go in Baptism only to gain life without death, you will never know God's life.
Yes, and the implications of what Abraham and Sarah did all those years ago, when, not willing to wait for God to fulfill His promise to them, they took matters into their own hands and gave birth to the nation that continues to play a huge role in the persecution of the church and deceiving the whole world, while they stand against the Truth of God's Word on the strength of their phony prophet, who claimed himself a descendant of Ishmael in order to supplant the true blessing to the world through Jesus Christ. God has allowed it and in the end we know He wins, as do all who stand on the side of Truth with Him.
Why anyone stands against educating others to the deceptions of Islam is perplexing.
Why anyone stands against educating others to the deceptions of Islam is perplexing.
I don't want to go to in depth because this isn't the conspiracy forum but saying that God NEVER makes mistakes fits nicely with He will forgive literally EVERYBODY that repents,well if that is true then Heaven is packed with the worst degenerates ever created,after all religion IS the last refuge of the scoundrel.
I fully agree that's why I don't know about those that are repenting just because the end is imminent and it is no longer a theory,I'm not trying to discourage anyone.
Those that feel the need to ask God for forgiveness theb by all means do it,I mean hell has gotta be a bad place and nobody should go there if that's ok with God.
Those that feel the need to ask God for forgiveness theb by all means do it,I mean hell has gotta be a bad place and nobody should go there if that's ok with God.
The scriptures says in Chronicles God wanted his people to turn from their wicked ways, pray and seek his face. Rejecting Christ already condemns a person as stated in John. If the act is sinful the lord wants us to stop doing it. The Lord said whoever wants to follow me must deny themselves and pick up their cross. The Lord is merciful and will help us stop whatever sin we struggle with. People who follow Christ should be willing to give up everything for him.
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murder is a sin
on my cigarette box is says they can kill me
its like self murder over time
as well as addiction
James 4:17
17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
because no good comes from it
i wouldnt be denying my flesh
and i wouldnt be protecting what is to be used as a member of the body of christ
it is a sin
(and im not addicted to sugar and have cutt back a great deal from sugars that arent natural, could easily toss it from my life and wouldnt feel like i was denying my flesh)
on my cigarette box is says they can kill me
its like self murder over time
as well as addiction
James 4:17
17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
because no good comes from it
i wouldnt be denying my flesh
and i wouldnt be protecting what is to be used as a member of the body of christ
it is a sin
(and im not addicted to sugar and have cutt back a great deal from sugars that arent natural, could easily toss it from my life and wouldnt feel like i was denying my flesh)
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