Why do you hate Muslims? (Yes, I'm aware this only applies to some people on here.)

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Fear has proven to motivate people; and 'facts' stated to plant fear is manipulation in sheeps clothing. God's love has proven to conquer evil. Where is the Gideon story? Our spoken truth can be angled in different directions planting what it is within our heart and spirit to mean. "Greater is He that is in you; than he that is in the world," Do our facts aim to plant Jesus? Every word we speak is either planting Jesus or it is going outside of that premise to reason apart from Him. Every word we speak is seed being planted. "What seed say you?"
I think God said, "I gave you a brain so that you would use it, and not invite antichrist factions to take over control of your country."
 

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AMEN Sista- I wonder if this thread was entitled: "Why do we love Americans ( Yes, I am aware this only applies to some people on here)," how the tables would turn in our base of thinking. Yet, How do you think God judges the United States verses the American? The world system is satans government, satans rule - despite God having all things in His control. but all sinners in it across the planet are wrong rights, not wrong wrongs. Do we see all people thru the eye lens of God? Meaning God created man, so it is a right thing gone wrong; or a wrong right. Jesus has the ability to make all wrongs right. ALL WRONGS, with the exception of satan and his minions; they are the only wrong wrongs..

Muslims are human beings. Muslims are God's Children, Muslims are lost sheep (unless they are not), Muslims are not the principalities of darkness, but are flesh and blood, to whom we are not in battle with..

As my spirit reminds me of Ephesians I think of how Paul is giving a revelation of newness in Christ in both human rights and in government in contrast to that days experiences. What a great new inclination of hope, I thought, for that day. Their whole world was based on factions of peoples who we in disarray with one another, and I think how wonderful a news that must have been - Unity under one heading; namely Jesus Christ. But we forget their were some who despised the idea of losing their upper position to share with the lower ranks in file, in their minds.

The United States is no less evil than the Muslim governments, for a world system is what Jesus is coming back to judge. And I do not hate Americans, but I use this comparison to point out nor am I to love Muslim's any less. Think of the Gentiles of Paul's day - oh what great news! The Messiah! And think of the Jews of Paul's day - Oh? We must share this with them? God has put us all on the same playing field as simply In Christ, and out of Christ. We have to move toward Unity now opening up the door for God to call all men to Himself.

Each of the following virtues reflects a Christlike spirit and characterizes a "worthy walk" which contributes to the unity of the body.Humility means humiliation of mind, lowly thinking, a humble attitude, modesty (modesty = unassuming in the estimation of one’s abilities) or without arrogance. It is the opposite of pride. Contemplating what we were before grace lifted us from the miry clay should cause us to have a humble attitude

In a word humility is "low mindedness", an attitude that one is not too good to serve. Humility is that grace that, when you know you have it, you have lost it. Humility means putting Christ first, others second, and self last.
The word indicates that one esteems (not makes) themselves as "small" and lacking sufficiency to walk worthy while at the same time also recognizing the power and sufficiency of God to enable a worthy walk because Paul knows that humility promotes unity but that pride promotes disunity.

Paul is saying believing Jews are to lay aside their former "religious" pride and humbly regard their Gentile counterpart as their equal and not as their spiritual inferior.Humility is not thinking less of ourselves but is really not thinking of ourselves at all. This supernatural attitude in believers has its source in our association with the Lord Jesus and the enablement of His Spirit. Humility makes believers conscious of their own nothingness and enables them to esteem others better than themselves, a good antidote for a spirit of disunity in the body. The opposite attitudes of conceit and arrogance, on the other hand promote disunity.

We need to get our head out of this game of debate and get our spirit in the game of reconciliation wrapped in love! If, by me saying this your spirit wants to hurry up and respond with, "what evils Muslims have done in comparison to the love God asks us to become," you are thinking with your (soulish)-head and not your (spirit-filled)-heart.
Can you please point out where anyone on this thread attacked any Muslim people? All I have seen is people talking about the deceptive, violet, socially unacceptable, and honestly strait up evil teachings of the Quran. All I have seen was people speaking against Islam, but I could have missed one, can you tell me who was hating and/or speaking out against Muslim people.
 

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Proverbs 19:21New International Version (NIV)

21 Many are the plans in a person’s heart,
but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.


"Are we laying prone before God; catching up to God's purposes in all of the details in the headlines of today? Or are we reasoning what must His purposes be?" Is it as simple as we have placed the cart before the horse, mistakenly? Or is it we have stopped to put wheels on the cart, because we see this as a better plan?"

 
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i still smoke cigarettes sometimes....
i still play games once in awhile and maybe eat too much on purpose
get mad at someone im supposed to treat with love
even if this happens once a week or once a month
when i say repent and do works in me

i mean stop these things not do them anymore at all

so i can be used to glorify him before he returns

But that is not "repenting."

If, on the other hand, you felt there was nothing wrong with whatever you were already doing..... and then looked closer at that thing and decided to stop doing it (changed your mind about it.) because you found a reason to feel it was wrong for you, then THAT would be "repenting."

Just stopping some sinning hasn't a thing to do with repenting. No more than feeling bad about doing something does.

"Repent" is one of those words we have totally corrupted (probably mainly due to RCC influence) into a modern meaning that was never in the Bible.
 

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I think God said, "I gave you a brain so that you would use it, and not invite antichrist factions to take over control of your country."
"Our brain is of no use to God unless we live by way of the spirit, first. Then, our brain will have been thru the Holy Spirit's guidance to give spiritual value to the room. But only when He commissions us to serve it out." He gave you a brain but you think from your heart; the brain is but a mechanism that dishes out what the spirit renders true....unto your soul. Which spirit rules your heart rules your thoughts. So, it is not quite as simple as God gave you a brain to use."
 
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As far as some people that say Islam is like Christianity in that they persecute the unbelievers is not valid.

The Bible instructs the saints not to fight physically for the kingdom of God,and be harmless as doves,and turn the other cheek,and if they do not heed what the Christian says that person is to walk away from them,and let them be.

The Bible even instructs the saints to not even fight verbally with people,and if it gets to that point,let it go and move on,for God does not even want strife among people verbally.

And hypocrites,and people that would go contrary to that does not change anything,and Jesus said the hypocrites do not belong to Him.

But the Quran is not like that but allows them to fight for their religion,where the God of the Bible says do not fight for your religion.

Even when the world attacks the saints at the beast kingdom,God said,do not fight back,for however you fight back it will come back on you,for he that leads in to captivity will go in to captivity,and he that kills with the sword,will perish with the sword.

This is the patience and faith of the saints,for they will have to endure it,and Jesus said,do not fear what they can do to the body,but can do no more,but fear God.

As far as the Roman Catholic Church,they are worldliness,and the Bible together,paganism,and the world together,the religious system of the cruel Roman Empire,which is why they were in to control,power,and persecuting people that did not comply,and going forth with physical power for physical dominion,which Jesus said not to do.

When they embraced Christianity,they held unto their religious ways,and it became their foundation for the interpretation of scriptures.

There is no comparison between Islam and Christianity,and hypocrites are not part of Christianity,so Christianity cannot be blamed.It cannot be blamed for the worldly people not doing right claiming Christianity.

Christianity and who actually belongs to Christianity,is blameless,without fault,in perfect morals,and love,unequaled by any other religion,or belief system on the planet.

Islam is not,and far from showing the love of God to the world,even though creation testifies there is a higher power that loves people,and even a lot of atheists have better morals,and love,than them.
 
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But that is not "repenting."

If, on the other hand, you felt there was nothing wrong with whatever you were already doing..... and then looked closer at that thing and decided to stop doing it (changed your mind about it.) because you found a reason to feel it was wrong for you, then THAT would be "repenting."

Just stopping some sinning hasn't a thing to do with repenting. No more than feeling bad about doing something does.

"Repent" is one of those words we have totally corrupted (probably mainly due to RCC influence) into a modern meaning that was never in the Bible.
smoking is a sin
from many cigs a day to occasional cig i HAVENT repented cause 1 more ever isnt repenting i NEED to repent cause i know its wrong when i didnt before
i know what repenting is hahaha

Gods changed my heart and showed me whats wrong

as much as has been done in me i still have flaws

but i know he can make me walk like job

who also wasnt always walking upright and perfect

only Jesus was always perfect

but becomming like job or john or changing like paul happens
 

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Can you please point out where anyone on this thread attacked any Muslim people? All I have seen is people talking about the deceptive, violet, socially unacceptable, and honestly strait up evil teachings of the Quran. All I have seen was people speaking against Islam, but I could have missed one, can you tell me who was hating and/or speaking out against Muslim people.
"Well, it is good to point out wrong long enough to get the attention of those who are focused on it to eventually teach goodness. If you yourself, have not attacked Muslims within your heart - I say, "God be with you!" If your goodness is to speak of the truth of evil without the immediate follow up of the goodness of Christ, - I say, "May God be with you!"
 
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But that is not "repenting."

If, on the other hand, you felt there was nothing wrong with whatever you were already doing..... and then looked closer at that thing and decided to stop doing it (changed your mind about it.) because you found a reason to feel it was wrong for you, then THAT would be "repenting."

Just stopping some sinning hasn't a thing to do with repenting. No more than feeling bad about doing something does.

"Repent" is one of those words we have totally corrupted (probably mainly due to RCC influence) into a modern meaning that was never in the Bible.
i dont know the life you lived before repenting

but i had every sin in my life

now i have few that i know of biblically
Gods casting them from me then shielding me after

once im pure

i will be able to bear fruit


but ya

ive repented of sexual immorality

ive repented of a filthy mouth

ive repented of fighting

maybe it was all in one moment for you

are you suggesting i dont know God?
and im just quitting things now because thats what I wanted with my old heart?
 
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if i am decieving myself or i was shown a false spirit... i wonder why they would have dragged all these sins from my life and turn me from a non believer to someone who seeks God daily from when he wakes up throughout the day and before he sleeps


it feels super natural to me...
 
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i kinda feel like youre bitter and nit picking
 
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i dont know the life you lived before repenting

but i had every sin in my life

now i have few that i know of biblically
Gods casting them from me then shielding me after

once im pure

i will be able to bear fruit


but ya

ive repented of sexual immorality

ive repented of a filthy mouth

ive repented of fighting

maybe it was all in one moment for you

are you suggesting i dont know God?
and im just quitting things now because thats what I wanted with my old heart?
I'm beginning to think you are so ultra sensitive, that you can't even converse with another person. Did you even read one word I said?
 
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I'm beginning to think you are so ultra sensitive, that you can't even converse with another person. Did you even read one word I said?
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i did, but i do have a problem sometimes with how i take things

from what you said

repenting ISNT having a changed heart and wanting to give it up completely unto actually turning from it which is what i suggested ... not continuing in them
 
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i did, but i do have a problem sometimes with how i take things

from what you said

repenting ISNT having a changed heart and wanting to give it up completely unto actually turning from it which is what i suggested ... not continuing in them
That's not what I said, at all.
 
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That's not what I said, at all.
when i said turn from it completely

you said thats not repenting

the rest of what you said didnt really make sense

seemed double minded to ME

why would you stop something if you didnt feel bad for it

if you felt bad because of God letting you know its a sin

and stopped



it is repenting
 
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Okay so the Qu'ran is a controversial subject to talk about. I do not see anyone mentioning the Book of Mormons teachings. For example, no one talks about the Angel Moroni and how the angel revealed the Book of Mormon to Joseph Smith. There is a Mormon temple in SLC, Utah. No one brings up that subject. No one ever talks about Jehovah's Witnesses belief that Saint Michael is more powerful than Jesus Christ. All emphasis is about the Qu'ran.

Well I am not Muslim. I am Christian. I wanted to bring a point out. People should be focusing on what is going on with Christianity more than what is going on with the Muslim religion.

Mormons and JV do not preach murder anyone who disagrees with their belief. They dont preach jihad.They dont blow themselves up and as many as they can take with them. That is why these other religions aren't talked about.They coexist in the country with other religions. Islam does not. NoI do have an issue with the junk going on in Utah,taking young girls as brides. I had a huge argument with a poster here who was arguing for polygamy. I have a huge issue with that and went hard after the guy trying to defend it.
 
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Here is what I read in the Book of Mormon.

The Words of Mormon


Chapter 1

Mormon abridges the large plates of Nephi—He puts the small plates with the other plates—King Benjamin establishes peace in the land. About A.D. 385.

1 And now I, Mormon, being about to deliver up the record which I have been making into the hands of my son Moroni, behold I have witnessed almost all the destruction of my people, the Nephites.





​Yes,its a cult along with JV,next...
 
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when i said turn from it completely

you said thats not repenting

the rest of what you said didnt really make sense

seemed double minded to ME

why would you stop something if you didnt feel bad for it

if you felt bad because of God letting you know its a sin

and stopped



it is repenting
Repent is the English translation of a Greek word. That is all it is. It has a definite meaning. There is nothing Spiritual or magical about the word. It means, basically and in simple language: "Look at this, (whatever 'this' might be) and make up your mind to think differently about it."

It is not some Hocus-Pocus word that suddenly transforms you into something different. It is a common, ordinary Greek word that we pronounce in English as "repent."
 

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i dont know the life you lived before repenting

but i had every sin in my life

now i have few that i know of biblically
Gods casting them from me then shielding me after

once im pure

i will be able to bear fruit


but ya

ive repented of sexual immorality

ive repented of a filthy mouth

ive repented of fighting

maybe it was all in one moment for you

are you suggesting i dont know God?
and im just quitting things now because thats what I wanted with my old heart?
Brother, I have seen God working in your life - I praise God for that, by the way. You are apart of my family in God. And it isn't because God gifted you with getting over sexual immorality, and gifted you with a clean mouth, nor even is it because He gifted you with a different perspective in fighting. But I am, simply, so delighted that God gifted you with Jesus (that covers it all - right?!). "If you remain in Me and My Words remain in you..." Right?!

Now, as satan tempts you in all those conquered sins to repeat them, you will have a rock to stand on (The Armor of God), and when you are tempted He will provide a way out to stand up under it. You are developing a godly-character, and He works on us all to go from where we are to where He is leading us, so let not your boast be in the gifts of God save one; namely Jesus Christ. In Him our boast is righteous! Brother you keep your eyes on Jesus He is doing just fine wit ya!