Pope Francis: "In my own name"...
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Here Ahwatukee....
(Rev 18)
V15-18: "The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’
V19: “They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.’
Seems they believed she was invincible. Their response is extreme... weeping, wailing, throwing dust on their heads.
V20: “Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!”
This confirms she persecuted the saints who are now in Heaven, as well as those who are still living. They are being told to rejoice. "God has avenged you on her" - seems that only the saints will rejoice over this incident, while those in the world grieve, so this is further confirmation.
(Rev 18)
V15-18: "The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’
V19: “They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.’
Seems they believed she was invincible. Their response is extreme... weeping, wailing, throwing dust on their heads.
V20: “Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!”
This confirms she persecuted the saints who are now in Heaven, as well as those who are still living. They are being told to rejoice. "God has avenged you on her" - seems that only the saints will rejoice over this incident, while those in the world grieve, so this is further confirmation.
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Well I believe that the Vatican, the prostitutes headquarters, will be what is destroyed and most likely the majority of Rome as well.
The meaning behind the kings who commit adultery with the woman and the inhabitants being intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries in Rev.17:2, is speaking figuratively of engaging in her idolatrous practices. The definition of the word in the figurative sense means "one who is being unfaithful to Christ while proclaiming to be his true follower."
I believe that when that antichrist is revealed he will put the pope back into power, the power that she once had and still desires, but will extend over the entire world. I believe that what will draw in all of the other pseudo christian sects, will be the miracles, signs and wonders that the false prophet/pope will perform and which will be for the purpose of giving authentication of the first beast who will be proclaiming himself as being God.
The meaning behind the kings who commit adultery with the woman and the inhabitants being intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries in Rev.17:2, is speaking figuratively of engaging in her idolatrous practices. The definition of the word in the figurative sense means "one who is being unfaithful to Christ while proclaiming to be his true follower."
I believe that when that antichrist is revealed he will put the pope back into power, the power that she once had and still desires, but will extend over the entire world. I believe that what will draw in all of the other pseudo christian sects, will be the miracles, signs and wonders that the false prophet/pope will perform and which will be for the purpose of giving authentication of the first beast who will be proclaiming himself as being God.
Yeah, you know what's going on girl. Yes, the fact that scripture says "I saw the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints" would infer that she will be responsible for their shed blood. Yeah her attitude is that, she thinks she's is all that and bag of chips. "I sit as a queen! I will never mourn." Yet, in one hour she will be destroyed.
She's thee counterfeit church. To me her paganism is being displayed right out in the open for all to see. Besides all of the other obvious departures from the truth, have you ever wondered about how this institution who is claiming to be the true church of Christ could have a pagan obelisk sitting right out on the front porch of the Vatican? There is absolutely no excuse, no apologetic to be able to justify an object that was most likely used for sun worship or some other type of worship in ancient Egypt, which is where it came from. Yet there is over 1.2 billion people who don't seem too concerned about it.
She's thee counterfeit church. To me her paganism is being displayed right out in the open for all to see. Besides all of the other obvious departures from the truth, have you ever wondered about how this institution who is claiming to be the true church of Christ could have a pagan obelisk sitting right out on the front porch of the Vatican? There is absolutely no excuse, no apologetic to be able to justify an object that was most likely used for sun worship or some other type of worship in ancient Egypt, which is where it came from. Yet there is over 1.2 billion people who don't seem too concerned about it.
The scripture that keeps coming to mind too is "come out of her MY people, lest you partake of her sins and receive of her plagues" - this is V4 (prior to the fall of the City), so a warning is being given, before this happens. The "MY people" suggests there are some true believers who have not yet come out of that system (for whatever reason) and this could also be referring to the ecumenical movement also.
Emphasis here on plagues... I wonder if this event will happen on a specific day when the ecumenical group are gathered, and that God has appointed this specific day, in which those involved (who do not come out of) will suffer the same plagues that are to come... so all who are involved in it. The plagues are mentioned in V8: "Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her"
But the pope would not be in Rome at the time this happens, as the final two remain alive until they are cast into the fire (edit: if the belief is that A pope is one of the two mentioned in the last days)
Emphasis here on plagues... I wonder if this event will happen on a specific day when the ecumenical group are gathered, and that God has appointed this specific day, in which those involved (who do not come out of) will suffer the same plagues that are to come... so all who are involved in it. The plagues are mentioned in V8: "Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her"
But the pope would not be in Rome at the time this happens, as the final two remain alive until they are cast into the fire (edit: if the belief is that A pope is one of the two mentioned in the last days)
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Rev 13:3: "And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast"
I've always believed this wound to be the Lateran treaty in 1929 (the birth of the Vatican State). "A Lateran treaty was signed in 1929 between the Italian Government and the Vatican re-establishing the political power and diplomatic standing of the Catholic Church, which had been lost when Italy seized Rome, the last of the Papal States, on September 20th, 1870"
Here's a snippet from a post I did back in 2012. Interesting because I said back then that Pope Benedict XI would either step down or die. Turns out he did resign. But I based it on this scripture...
Revelations 17:9-11: "There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition"
There have been 7 kings (popes) since the Lateran treaty. Pope Francis is the 8th.
Pius XI
Pius XII
John XXIII
Paul VI
John Paul I
John Paul II
Benedict XI (a short time)
Pope Francis (is of the 7)
Saddens me that , there are so many teachers , that point belivers into another direction from this truth. Happend to me aswell 
. Hope many will see the truth that is written in your post .
. Hope many will see the truth that is written in your post .
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Very interesting topic. This is my first post, as I am new here. Great to see tempers remaining calm with the differences of opinions. But this is a Christian site, so I'm glad that is the case.
I won't go into detail about who I agree with or disagree with, because I don't plan on being here during the time the beast is revealed. (And that is another topic all together, isn't it? )
So please allow me to just say, I'm glad I found this site, and I look forward to getting to know you all!
{1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.}
I won't go into detail about who I agree with or disagree with, because I don't plan on being here during the time the beast is revealed. (And that is another topic all together, isn't it?
) So please allow me to just say, I'm glad I found this site, and I look forward to getting to know you all!
{1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.}
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Very interesting topic. This is my first post, as I am new here. Great to see tempers remaining calm with the differences of opinions. But this is a Christian site, so I'm glad that is the case.
I won't go into detail about who I agree with or disagree with, because I don't plan on being here during the time the beast is revealed. (And that is another topic all together, isn't it? )
So please allow me to just say, I'm glad I found this site, and I look forward to getting to know you all!
{1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.}
I won't go into detail about who I agree with or disagree with, because I don't plan on being here during the time the beast is revealed. (And that is another topic all together, isn't it?
) So please allow me to just say, I'm glad I found this site, and I look forward to getting to know you all!
{1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.}
Well, still would welcome your input here. Most of us share in the bible discussion forum, if you want to check it out. And there are probably multiple rapture threads from all the years, lol.
Lovely scripture. Thanks for sharing