Space Exploration. Fact Or Fiction? (And Other Thoughts!)

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CaptainGoat

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I believe certainly that we can launch both "Space Craft" and various other objects into the earths outermost atmosphere. To go outside of that I rather believe is such a challenge it makes me speculate as to if what we have been told via our media is true, as one is suddenly subjecting anyncraft made to such a force.... Well, let me give an example of this force. Jump into an aircraft, reach 1000 mph and dive into the sea. It is that kind of force you are playing with here just to leave the earths upper atmosphere. Dont believe me? Well, let's approach the same idea in reverse. Some very large formations of rock and ice hit our outer atmosphere each year and the majority get so broken up that it is rare to find fragments on the earth. We all know it takes some huge rock for just a small piece survive to hit the earths surface. Now both ice and rock are normally quite solid objects. The remains that have been found have been very solid fragments, only a fraction of their original size.
Now think what that would do to a man made space craft!
Let's also consider the delicate satalites. They have to be within the outer part of the earths atmosphere or they would be flying off into space. They need to be at a height which enables them to stay in position and yet not get torn apart by the forces up there. A very clever achievement to do that with such delicate objects isn't it?

I write this not just with the question if mankind has entered space or not, but to consider why we would want to? Is it genuinely right that vast amounts of tax payers money is spent on such challenging projects when in ones own country a lack of employment means that so many are living in difficult conditions that their survival is at risk? Wouldn't the money raised be better spent on those that need a help up?
Wouldn't righting wrongs and helping those in a mess make this earth a more attractive place then attempting to reach another planet to populate it with the few richest people?
Another theory comes to mind. What space programs could really be funding. A cover up for long range missiles, bullets, and various advanced aircraft. One could be developing war machines under the guise of peace? Such terms as a country that has entered the "Space Race" could mean something different. Another term... The big secret nuclear arms race.... Is this more of a cover for the more advanced versions of a fuel/air device and as devastating as these are, what they are portrayed to be are many times worse, hence why countries have hundreds stockpiled and not just one or two?
It is good to explore various theories. What is possible and what is not. Even if one does not find out more, it is good to have an open and questioning mind. Even if we go off track and then back to reality! :D
Over to you.......
 

tourist

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Space travel has been well documented. Yes, the money probably could have gone to feed the poor but the bible also says that there will always be poverty in the world. Hundreds of satellites are already orbiting the earth. It seems like you are really behind the technological curve in your understanding. This is the 21st century after all. Regarding nuclear arms, it is also well documented to a certain degree how many of nuclear weapons the each country has, if any, the type, the TNT equivalent and also the delivery systems to be used in deployment.
 
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CaptainGoat

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I do question as not all that is documented is true. I live in an area where due to natural secrecy, many things are documented to disguise their real nature. I've seen things they try to document in the UFO category, but knowing where they are coming from I know they are human made and a lot simpler then we imagine. I tend to look for the simple explanation after what I've seen and heard.
 
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BeyondET

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Fact, yet does man always use things for the right reason.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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ehhhh

ill be quiet on this
 

tanakh

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When it was first suggested that Trains carried Passengers some objected to it because they thought people would die if they traveled at such ''high'' speeds. Everything new is either thought by some to be either dangerous, the work of the devil or both.
 
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I think that the facts on this subject as known by most interested people say that not only is space travel real but necessary in order to survive as a species.

We've contaminated every resource available to us right down to our own gene pool.
 
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I say that because i believe that God created us to survive,like when someone falls out of a plane falls X distance to the ground and survives or many other unpleasant examples of people being horribly injured yet surviving to me these are proof of God creating us to survive.

Im not talking scripture,there are many quantifiable examples of the resiliency that God created us with,if you take this line of thought to the next level past the individual to the species (surviving) there is only one place to go for us to survive.

Away from here (earth)and there is only one way off this planet.
 
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I believe certainly that we can launch both "Space Craft" and various other objects into the earths outermost atmosphere. To go outside of that I rather believe is such a challenge it makes me speculate as to if what we have been told via our media is true, as one is suddenly subjecting anyncraft made to such a force.... Well, let me give an example of this force. Jump into an aircraft, reach 1000 mph and dive into the sea. It is that kind of force you are playing with here just to leave the earths upper atmosphere. Dont believe me? Well, let's approach the same idea in reverse. Some very large formations of rock and ice hit our outer atmosphere each year and the majority get so broken up that it is rare to find fragments on the earth. We all know it takes some huge rock for just a small piece survive to hit the earths surface. Now both ice and rock are normally quite solid objects. The remains that have been found have been very solid fragments, only a fraction of their original size.
Now think what that would do to a man made space craft!
Let's also consider the delicate satalites. They have to be within the outer part of the earths atmosphere or they would be flying off into space. They need to be at a height which enables them to stay in position and yet not get torn apart by the forces up there. A very clever achievement to do that with such delicate objects isn't it?

I write this not just with the question if mankind has entered space or not, but to consider why we would want to? Is it genuinely right that vast amounts of tax payers money is spent on such challenging projects when in ones own country a lack of employment means that so many are living in difficult conditions that their survival is at risk? Wouldn't the money raised be better spent on those that need a help up?
Wouldn't righting wrongs and helping those in a mess make this earth a more attractive place then attempting to reach another planet to populate it with the few richest people?
Another theory comes to mind. What space programs could really be funding. A cover up for long range missiles, bullets, and various advanced aircraft. One could be developing war machines under the guise of peace? Such terms as a country that has entered the "Space Race" could mean something different. Another term... The big secret nuclear arms race.... Is this more of a cover for the more advanced versions of a fuel/air device and as devastating as these are, what they are portrayed to be are many times worse, hence why countries have hundreds stockpiled and not just one or two?
It is good to explore various theories. What is possible and what is not. Even if one does not find out more, it is good to have an open and questioning mind. Even if we go off track and then back to reality! :D
Over to you.......
Well, considering the Nazis used flying saucers at the end of WW2 and kicked the tar out of the allied forces, what kind of improvements do you suppose they have done since? Humans are in space now, and not with the rockets they tell you that are used. Rockets have been on their obsolete list for years now. Why else would the United Stated have a 'space force'?
 
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pckts

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Well, considering the Nazis used flying saucers at the end of WW2 and kicked the tar out of the allied forces, what kind of improvements do you suppose they have done since? Humans are in space now, and not with the rockets they tell you that are used. Rockets have been on their obsolete list for years now. Why else would the United Stated have a 'space force'?
There is the "space program", and the "secret space program". The space program is for the masses to believe, the secret space program is for those who realize the first one isn't real. Both are equally fake.
 
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There is the "space program", and the "secret space program". The space program is for the masses to believe, the secret space program is for those who realize the first one isn't real. Both are equally fake.
Well my friend, you can bet on one being fake. You would lose the bet on the other. You guess which one you would lose on.
 
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pckts

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Well my friend, you can bet on one being fake. You would lose the bet on the other. You guess which one you would lose on.
my friend, only the house wins on those bets. I don't gamble anymore and I don't take the liars word for it that they have a second program. Give me sources that aren't alex jones or "accidental" leaks.
 
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my friend, only the house wins on those bets. I don't gamble anymore and I don't take the liars word for it that they have a second program. Give me sources that aren't alex jones or "accidental" leaks.
Hmmm There are few good sources still alive. You can believe that everything they tell you though is about thirty years behind the truth.
 
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pckts

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Hmmm There are few good sources still alive.
Well give me some names so I can discredit them as shills. And why are you keeping this information for yourself? Obviously I am in need of it if I don't believe in the secret space program.
 
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Well give me some names so I can discredit them as shills. And why are you keeping this information for yourself? Obviously I am in need of it if I don't believe in the secret space program.
LOL I give you information so you can trash it....Hmmm Makes sense. NOT. So then....do your own digging. LOL
 
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LOL I give you information so you can trash it....Hmmm Makes sense. NOT. So then....do your own digging. LOL
Look up Steve Quayle. He is not a shill. He's been researching in this area for more than forty five years. You can start there.
 
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pckts

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LOL I give you information so you can trash it....Hmmm Makes sense. NOT. So then....do your own digging. LOL
Well if it's true it will self-evident and untrashable, and if I do you will easily be able to dismiss my criticism and defend your position.

I already did my own digging, and I excavated the secret space program as fake. This is where you come in to enlighten me.
 
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pckts

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Look up Steve Quayle. He is not a shill. He's been researching in this area for more than forty five years. You can start there.
ok thank you.
 
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pckts

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[video=youtube;aRegvO5fKwo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRegvO5fKwo[/video]

Quayle is in league with alex jones, this is a great sign of a disinfo agent/shill.

Also alex jones backs his predictions and makes prophet like claims about Quayle:

https://www.infowars.com/steve-quayle-the-man-who-predicted-it-all-speaks-out/


and apparently Quayle also attempts to give Jones credibility as well. Quayle has a fear-based ministry and that is why he does things like convince you the fake second space program is real. He enlightens you with the knowledge the government is even more deceptive and powerful than they let on, and backs their lies and is their mouthpiece.

Anyone "friends" of alex jones are no better than he is.