Does Anyone Here Teach The Following?
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Debate 101: The person on the side of the negative has nothing to prove. The burden of proof is all on the one on the positive side.
For once, I'm on the negative side. I said there is no fatalism in our beliefs. Kind of like saying "There is no Santa Claus." Since I cannot prove that something that doesn't exist doesn't exist, you're very much stuck proving the "doesn't exist" does exist.
Go for it!
Oh, and just so you get my amusement in this. I have spent years on the side with, "Yes, God not only exists, but he's the one the Bible talks about." And strictly because the atheists have the negative side. "There is no God." Which means, it was all up to me to prove my side.
So, you betcha. I'm completely enjoying the negative side for a change. lol
(BTW, if you're going to go with "strawman," you're saying you know the art of debate to use it. Strawman is just a minor point in debates. Understanding who gets the burden in a debate is more important, AND it is telling that you used the "strawman" card at the wrong time. Can't have a strawman card in this one, unless you introduce it, and I can trump it. I am an amateur apologetic because I know how to debate, and picked the best topic to debate -- God is! What we're doing on this thread mostly is your basic "nannynannybooboo, I'm right. You're wrong. And that's all I have to say about that.")
For once, I'm on the negative side. I said there is no fatalism in our beliefs. Kind of like saying "There is no Santa Claus." Since I cannot prove that something that doesn't exist doesn't exist, you're very much stuck proving the "doesn't exist" does exist.
Go for it!
Oh, and just so you get my amusement in this. I have spent years on the side with, "Yes, God not only exists, but he's the one the Bible talks about." And strictly because the atheists have the negative side. "There is no God." Which means, it was all up to me to prove my side.
So, you betcha. I'm completely enjoying the negative side for a change. lol
(BTW, if you're going to go with "strawman," you're saying you know the art of debate to use it. Strawman is just a minor point in debates. Understanding who gets the burden in a debate is more important, AND it is telling that you used the "strawman" card at the wrong time. Can't have a strawman card in this one, unless you introduce it, and I can trump it. I am an amateur apologetic because I know how to debate, and picked the best topic to debate -- God is! What we're doing on this thread mostly is your basic "nannynannybooboo, I'm right. You're wrong. And that's all I have to say about that.")
Question if you believe that 4th is following the doctrines of men and you believe it's wrong why would you laugh? Would it not break your heart to see error? Laughing tends to imply ridicule not Christ like compassion.
Note I tend to agree with him being Reformed as well for complete disclosure.
Blessings
Bill
Note I tend to agree with him being Reformed as well for complete disclosure.
Blessings
Bill
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I was at a church in Pensacola ( really wild and radical lol) ,and God gave me a word. He spoke very emphatic. He said" it's the 2,the 2 ,the 2." I said" the 2 what"
No answer.
I kept wondering, what does He mean?
Then the answer came several days later.
He said " most all truth is multifaceted"
So many times,both sides have truth in them. But sometimes both sides are right.
It is the 3 blind men and the elephant
No answer.
I kept wondering, what does He mean?
Then the answer came several days later.
He said " most all truth is multifaceted"
So many times,both sides have truth in them. But sometimes both sides are right.
It is the 3 blind men and the elephant
K
Nah,not a licence to sin anymore than OSAS is. My father worked with a guy who's son was living in sin,living with someone I believe and just living like hell. He told my father that his son was in Gods will because he was elected and that he had told his son that he was right where God wanted him to be.Needless to say my father was surprised at that comment. Not long after the young man took cancer,no change in his lifestyle with his daddy telling him he didnt need to change a thing,he was going to heaven. He died and the man told my father that "at least he knew his son was in heaven". Now lest I be called a liar again!!!!!!, all may not believe this,but this was the mans understanding of election. So free grace is no more a licence to sin than election and OSAS.
Yes I did single her out and say what I said because preacher,who just patted her on the back a few posts ago,told me off for saying he doesn't believe in free grace and how dare I say that he didn't. So if Angela is not reformed/calvinist then this would not apply to her. She did admit that maybe I was confused,ya think???!! but chose to call me a liar instead. Then graciously says she didn't mean to hurt me and shed forgive me.smh Unbelievable.
Yes I did single her out and say what I said because preacher,who just patted her on the back a few posts ago,told me off for saying he doesn't believe in free grace and how dare I say that he didn't. So if Angela is not reformed/calvinist then this would not apply to her. She did admit that maybe I was confused,ya think???!! but chose to call me a liar instead. Then graciously says she didn't mean to hurt me and shed forgive me.smh Unbelievable.
