Exactly, when they start claiming this... you know they have been indoctrinated by false grace teachers who do not understand God's Word because they are part of that group "Cherry Pickers R Us"
amen, but theres more to it bro, in my hunmble opinion. rather than assume a person is a bad guy and teaching a false doctrine, its important to Know whether they are growing out of the false doctrine that maybe has them deceived. Bruce, g777 actually does have some good things to say , to me, its Just that the good things He says are negated because they direct away from the truth of the context. theres a big differencs to me anyways in these two statements
" God is good, he has forgiven our sins, He has shed His grace through the Lord Jesus Christ who suffered and died for our sins...Hallelujah!!"
and " God is so good, we dont need to hear and obey His word, salvation is by grace the end, we can never be held accountable for our sins, and the 4 gospels are the law of moses, we need to divide the things He said, and only believe the things that sound good to our ears"
i for one cant determinem though lately its appearing to me that its intentional. i cant say its my place to speak and say He is a false teacher, or whether He is just coming to some deeper truth slowly. He and i have had alot of conversation and He has actually moved more towards the truth than a year ago. which is what all of us are doing no matter How sound we think we are, Gods word will always reveal that we still need to grow and learn more, He is good because he will reveal things as we are able to handle them.
im not at all judging g7, im sincerely and have for more than a year trying toi get Him to see that theres a difference in saying Grace cancels out the gospel, and saying Grace is a very important part of the gospel, but there is also the truth that works with Grace to bring salvation and teach us how to Live upright Lives.
im not at all in any way attacking Him or saying hes a false teacher, sincerely want to understand him. for instance, when He is talking about the new creation, thats biblical stuff and true. when Hes saying other things theres also truth in some of them, my concern is that its avoiding things that are essential, and actually aiming to teach things totally unbiblical such as " Jesus taught the mosaic Law 2.0 and His words will destroy your lives if you put effort into following them" im not sure if its ignorance to the truth or opposition to it knowingly, I suppose God Knows.
I would Love to see Him make some adjustments based on scripture that is clearly there in pauls letters as well as the grace belief, because He does have some good value in areas i just want to see Him let go of the omission part and directing people away from the gospel to be more effective. rather than share teachings of the popular worldly understanding of grace, id Love to see Him go with the Gospel. anyways God bless and keep you in all things Jesus Christ.
