Born Again Vs. Saved
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I can relate to KJV in this...though I was never an atheist.
I had an experience that I believe is the new birth. Jesus became my Lord.
Then a few months later, was baptized in Holy Spirit. Perhaps that is what he is calling coming into the kingdom?
I see in scripture that there is the Spirit of Christ. Then there is the kingdom of God within. Walking in kingdom ways is our salvation here on earth.
Resurrection hit on the completion, IMHO.
I had an experience that I believe is the new birth. Jesus became my Lord.
Then a few months later, was baptized in Holy Spirit. Perhaps that is what he is calling coming into the kingdom?
I see in scripture that there is the Spirit of Christ. Then there is the kingdom of God within. Walking in kingdom ways is our salvation here on earth.
Resurrection hit on the completion, IMHO.
According to Titus you are incorrect in your experience.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
One event not separate events according to scripture.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
One event not separate events according to scripture.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
once your burden of sins have been lift from your soul by true confession and accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior,you are now born again,and only Jesus can lift them from you. your burdens are lite . you then become a new creature in Christ. Fresh and clean from past sin.they will never be remembered again.
With some emphasis on a few words:
John 3
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
So now, the point comes to what is the water referred to?
a) For those born of the Spirit can see.
b) But to Enter requires both water and the Spirit
And there is a distinction between (a) and (b) but virtue of the fact that one "sees" whereas the other "enters".
All those in (a) had a natural birth anyway. So the explanation for water being natural birth cannot be the real explanation.
So ---- what is the "water" referred to? Herein lies the clue. For we know that "salvation" will mean to "enter"
John 3
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
So now, the point comes to what is the water referred to?
a) For those born of the Spirit can see.
b) But to Enter requires both water and the Spirit
And there is a distinction between (a) and (b) but virtue of the fact that one "sees" whereas the other "enters".
All those in (a) had a natural birth anyway. So the explanation for water being natural birth cannot be the real explanation.
So ---- what is the "water" referred to? Herein lies the clue. For we know that "salvation" will mean to "enter"