Why Were the Jewish Feasts, Gods Feasts, Removed from Christianity.

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OK, so what can be done about it ? you think it's alright for christians to ignore God's Holy day while claiming they are following Jesus ? Isn't it up to man to 'line up with Jesus...and WHY don't we ? God has no relationship with anyone belonging OUTside of Israel.
Every day is a holy day .(give us this day our daily bread) every time a person does not harden their heart when hearing the voice of God they have entered the Sabbath rest or at least as long as today is called today.

The word Sabbath is not a time sensitive word. It means rest with no other meaning added.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being “mixed with faith” in them that heard it.For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts eb 4:1
 

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Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;


The Maker of us all knows us all as Jews and Israel. This will never be changed. Show where it says
we are not fellow heirs and joined to that commonwealth called Israel.......the Israel with the New Jerusalem.
 
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The Maker of us all knows us all as Jews and Israel. This will never be changed. Show where it says we are not fellow heirs and joined to that commonwealth called Israel.......the Israel with the New Jerusalem.
Exactly, Christian is the new promised name the Holy Spirit named His bride the church

Even Chrsit said of his own His flesh, it profits for nothing
 
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Well celebrate them if you want. We arnt called to because God became disgusted with them as to they became meaningless acts just as God became disgusted with sacrifices because the jewish people would do these traditions but remain in rebellion to God.
Why keep Christmas, Easter, Lent.

Jeremiah 10. 2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.


Why Christmas is PAGANISM (Christmas Exposed Documentary film 'Pagan History)

EASTER EXPOSED!! PAGAN HOLIDAY!!
 

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Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Thanks for further defining and clarifying that the Israel of GOD as those in CHRIST JESUS
 

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Why keep Christmas, Easter, Lent.

Jeremiah 10. 2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.


Why Christmas is PAGANISM (Christmas Exposed Documentary film 'Pagan History)

EASTER EXPOSED!! PAGAN HOLIDAY!!
We can do whatever we want as long as it is done to honor HIM

No one is supposed to be judging their brother or sister based on holy days, festivals, what they eat

all these things are outward actuons

GOD alone sees the inward actions, intentions, agendas, motives of HIS CHILDREN's hearts

and HE will judge rightly what and where we can't see
 

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Originally Posted by JaumeJ
The Maker of us all knows us all as Jews and Israel. This will never be changed. Show where it says

we are not fellow heirs and joined to that commonwealth called Israel.......the Israel with the New Jerusalem.


Fellow heirs is illustrated in Galatians 3:29. And we should bear in mind that these were holidays practiced by all of Israel, not just by biblical Jews.
 

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Fellow heirs is illustrated in Galatians 3:29. And we should bear in mind that these were holidays practiced by all of Israel, not just by biblical Jews.
Does that change the truth that we are free in CHRIST to honor HIM and to set apart any day (if not all days) to honor GOD for the gift of HIS SON?


all may practice and celebrate holidays
but not all are in CHRIST because not all believe the TRUTH of THE GOSPEL
 
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They weren't removed from Christianity, they were never a part of it.
 

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Here is an expression used by many believers of my era and before. When a loved one in Christ dies it would be said, "He or She has crossed the Jordan." Why do you suppose this is?

When Joshua led the Children of Israel across the Jordan River, he led them into what was to be Israel, another name for "The Promised Land."

And so when we appear to be dead, we cross the Jordan to enter into the Promised Land, the Israel of God.

Of course it takes believing and meditation for some to realize this.. All who believe are Jews by translation and Israel also by translation. Again, it takes study, meditation and faith to know this..

God gives His Word to all to nourish themselves upon until each's time to cross Jordan. Praise Jesus Christ, amen.
 

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Why keep Christmas, Easter, Lent.

Jeremiah 10. 2
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.


Why Christmas is PAGANISM (Christmas Exposed Documentary film 'Pagan History)

EASTER EXPOSED!! PAGAN HOLIDAY!!
where did you think pagan twists came from?

ignorance

Not fully knowing who and what one worshipped

Satan knew the truth from the beginning
and so he twisted the truth and offered "twisted myths" and "twisted pagan practices and forms and ideas" so that superstitious men (even before THE TRUTH had been made manifest in CHRIST had come) who knew of god(s) became confused in thinking that somehow these "pagan things" came first


when in TRUTH GOD's TRUTH was from the beginning

satan just took snippets of GOD's HIDDEN TRUTH and twisted it so that men even today are confused thinking that GOD somehow borrowed from "myths"?!!!

And they look at those to whom THE TRUTH has come (like you) and think that they don't know who and what they worship...that somehow they are confused and need the help and assistance of their "stronger more knowledgeable" brother-sister

Christmas IN TRUTH, one is celebrating the first advent/birth of CHRIST
Easter IN TRUTH, one is celebrating HIS ascension and victory over death

and those who are celebrating these holidays because of CHRIST are not sinning

but you, by suggesting to those whose conscience is clear, who look to honor their LORD by setting apart these days as holy days because of HIM, cause doubt and confusion to creep in?

and you run the risk of destroying your weaker brothers conscience because now they can't do what they have done with a clear conscience before GOD honoring what and who they know?


That is not a wiser, stronger, more spiritual brother/sister
 
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Here is an expression used by many believers of my era and before. When a loved one in Christ dies it would be said, "He or She has crossed the Jordan." Why do you suppose this is?

When Joshua led the Children of Israel across the Jordan River, he led them into what was to be Israel, another name for "The Promised Land."

And so when we appear to be dead, we cross the Jordan to enter into the Promised Land, the Israel of God.

Of course it takes believing and meditation for some to realize this.. All who believe are Jews by translation and Israel also by translation. Again, it takes study, meditation and faith to know this..

God gives His Word to all to nourish themselves upon until each's time to cross Jordan. Praise Jesus Christ, amen.
Because they have finally made it into the PRESENCE of THE ISRAEL of GOD

Who is THE SON
 

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Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

He is the King, He is the Husband; He is the Savior,. He is all, yet the mystery of Elohim Who is One will not be revealed before His time, but we know it is good, and well worthy of the wait for each of us. Baruch HaShem ad olam.


Because they have finally made it into the PRESENCE of THE ISRAEL of GOD

Who is THE SON
 

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Here is an expression used by many believers of my era and before. When a loved one in Christ dies it would be said, "He or She has crossed the Jordan." Why do you suppose this is?

When Joshua led the Children of Israel across the Jordan River, he led them into what was to be Israel, another name for "The Promised Land."

And so when we appear to be dead, we cross the Jordan to enter into the Promised Land, the Israel of God.

Of course it takes believing and meditation for some to realize this.. All who believe are Jews by translation and Israel also by translation. Again, it takes study, meditation and faith to know this..

God gives His Word to all to nourish themselves upon until each's time to cross Jordan. Praise Jesus Christ, amen.
Joshua 3:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass, as soon as the soles of the feet of the priests that bear the ark of the Lord, the Lord of all the earth, shall rest in the waters of Jordan, that the waters of Jordan shall be cut off from the waters that come down from above; and they shall stand upon an heap.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]And it came to pass, when the people removed from their tents, to pass over Jordan, and the priests bearing the ark of the covenant before the people;

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And as they that bare the ark were come unto Jordan, and the feet of the priests that bare the ark were dipped in the brim of the water, (for Jordan overfloweth all his banks all the time of harvest,)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]That the waters which came down from above stood and rose up upon an heap very far from the city Adam, that is beside Zaretan: and those that came down toward the sea of the plain, even the salt sea, failed, and were cut off: and the people passed over right against Jericho.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the priests that bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord stood firm on dry ground in the midst of Jordan, and all the Israelites passed over on dry ground, until all the people were passed clean over Jordan.

Every drop of water was removed from the Jordan where they were standing, it was moved all the way back from 'Adam', representing removal of sin from since Adam was created.

The Israelites didn't get their feet wet, not a single drop (the complete works of Lord Jesus).

The people outside of the congregation of the Lord were cut off because of the huge mass of water.
 

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Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

He is the King, He is the Husband; He is the Savior,. He is all, yet the mystery of Elohim Who is One will not be revealed before His time, but we know it is good, and well worthy of the wait for each of us. Baruch HaShem ad olam.
HE must reign until all has been accomplished
then all shall know and see HIM
as HE is
 
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The Maker of us all knows us all as Jews and Israel. This will never be changed. Show where it says we are not fellow heirs and joined to that commonwealth called Israel.......the Israel with the New Jerusalem.
The truth is it is all about Israel from the time that God called Abraham to follow Him,father of many nations,which all the nations are blessed in him.

Gave them the land of Canaan,established the land as Israel,belonging to them now,the Old Testament given to them.Gentiles could receive the benefit,and prosper with them,if they took hold of that covenant,shy of some things,but overall salvation to come.

Jesus came to Israel,and was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel,said salvation is of the Jews.He came unto His own,but His own did not receive Him.Jesus said,their house is left unto them desolate,until they say,blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord,when Israel recognizes Jesus as their Messiah.

Israel as a nation does not accept Jesus.God allows the Roman Empire to overthrow Jerusalem,and the Jews are scattered in to the nations,the punishment told in Deuteronomy.If Israel does right,no enemy will be able to go against her and prosper,but if wrong,and stayed that way for a certain amount of time,God would allow her enemies to come against her,and scatter the Jews in to the nations.God gave Israel 70 years to accept the truth,they did not,they were scattered.

But God said that any time the Jews cry out to Him,even in the latter times,that He will hear from heaven,and work to prosper them again on earth.

The New Testament given to the Jews,and the Gentiles can be part of that,for when a Gentile is saved they are a Jew inward,and part of the commonwealth of Israel,and there is no difference between the Gentile,and Jew,for all are accepted with Him that acknowledge Him and do His will.

The land of Israel is still the Jews land through all the time they were established,until the end of the millennial reign of Christ,but they lost control of it temporarily,but God said,after they have borne their shame,the kingdom will be restored to them,and God will send 2 witnesses to Israel to turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah.

Israel comes to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and say,blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord,and the kingdom on earth is restored to Israel.No operating Gentile government,only Israel,and Jesus and the saints rule over the people that God spared when He went against the world.

Millennial reign of Christ given to Israel,which is ruled by Jesus and the saints,both Jew and Gentile,in glorified bodies.

After the millennial reign of Christ,saints go to the New Jerusalem,which the 12 tribes of Israel,and the 12 apostles of the Lamb,are written in the New Jerusalem.

The New Jerusalem given to Israel.

From Abraham to the New Jersualem,it is all Israel.From Israel to the New Jersualem it is all Israel.

God said if the ordinances of heaven are still in effect,the sun,moon,and stars,then His covenant is still with Israel,and said,I am the LORD,I change not,therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed,and God has not cast away His people He once foreknew,and the kingdom restored to Israel when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,and all Israel shall be saved,kingdom restored to Israel on earth,and no operating Gentile government.

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance on God's part.He called Israel in the Old Testament,then it will always be in place,and if disobedient as a nation,then trouble will come upon them,but God is still with them,and the land still their land,for it is Israel all the way,from their start to the New Jerusalem,and Gentiles can be a part of that,and are considered a Jew.
 
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YOU are saying that I'm saying Paul is perfect
....I said if Paul is following Jesus then We can follow Paul....That way all walk the same path. Jesus walks here, Paul walks in His footsteps We walk in Pauls footsteps...How many tracks do you see? ONE!!
I don't follow Paul. I follow Jesus.
 
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Because they have finally made it into the PRESENCE of THE ISRAEL of GOD

Who is THE SON
The Son and the father are one., one Spirit, one work of faith. Two atributes of one God the father and son working toghter is perfect harmony and submission to one anohter. God is not a man as us.

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.(not will be or were)
Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
 

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Does that change the truth that we are free in CHRIST to honor HIM and to set apart any day (if not all days) to honor GOD for the gift of HIS SON?


all may practice and celebrate holidays
but not all are in CHRIST because not all believe the TRUTH of THE GOSPEL




not a change but a confirmation of that truth