I have an idea

[JaumeJ]

In some countries exremist governing parties are taxing things such as sugar (to protect the health of the masses), menatl incapacities, i.e. alzeimer's, even having an unused bedroom in your home .

It seems all taxes imposed by this genre of humanity are aimed at the masses doing great harm to their incomes and buying power.

Here is a revolutionary and new (not-so-new) idea.

Why not pas laws to tax those with an overflow of abundance, the wealthy that is, instead of the poor?

 

[resurrection33]

In some countries exremist governing parties are taxing things such as sugar (to protect the health of the masses), menatl incapacities, i.e. alzeimer's, even having an unused bedroom in your home .

It seems all taxes imposed by this genre of humanity are aimed at the masses doing great harm to their incomes and buying power.

Here is a revolutionary and new (not-so-new) idea.

Why not pas laws to tax those with an overflow of abundance, the wealthy that is, instead of the poor?

I have no problem with wealthy people paying a higher percentage of tax, within reason. I don't want it to get to the point where you have one class of people slaving away all day to make ends meet, while everyone else sits around on welfare, never looking for a job, spending their time drinking, doing drugs, and making babies.

 

[Galatea]

Personally, I don't see why luxury items don't have big taxes. For example, a boat for pleasure, a motorcycle, cars with big price tags, jewelry, designer clothes. There could be a "luxury tax". If a person is wealthy enough to buy a jetski, then the person probably has a couple of thousand to blow on taxes. If a jetski now costs $10,000 plus state and city taxes, a federal luxury tax could be added on the total. Let's face it, raising income taxes on wealthy people is not the answer. Wealthy people are quite astute at finding loopholes. If the retailer is responsible for turning over X amount of luxury taxes to the federal government, then the retailer will make sure the buyer will pay his luxury tax.

I don't think high property taxes are a good idea. We have very low property taxes in Alabama, so most middle class and even people in lower classes are able to buy a piece of land and own their own homes. This is not the case everywhere in the US. Property taxes are often poorly assessed as we have had the problem in our county with one person's property taxes being 5% of the property's worth, while the next door neighbor's property tax may be assessed at 10% of the property's worth. I don't think it is corruption, per se, but incompetence. Also, people who are annoyed with the assessment can petition to get their property reassessed, which usually always ends in a reduction of tax, which shows how arbitrary this system really is.

I'm not really well versed in economics or politics, but taxing luxury goods seems like a good idea to me. If I had enough money to buy a Rolex watch, I'd not begrudge a couple of extra thousand dollars for taxes. But maybe that is WHY I don't have enough money to buy a Rolex watch!

 

[imfinallyfree]

In some countries exremist governing parties are taxing things such as sugar (to protect the health of the masses), menatl incapacities, i.e. alzeimer's, even having an unused bedroom in your home .

It seems all taxes imposed by this genre of humanity are aimed at the masses doing great harm to their incomes and buying power.

Here is a revolutionary and new (not-so-new) idea.

Why not pas laws to tax those with an overflow of abundance, the wealthy that is, instead of the poor?

Because its the wealthy that does the taxing.

They literally own everyone,they started by taking over individual communities now they own the whole world.

Do you know how you have to work just to not starve and die of exposure? Thats not for your own good its for the taxes that you pay with that paycheck.

This is a primary reason for God ending the world.

 

[imfinallyfree]

I have no problem with wealthy people paying a higher percentage of tax, within reason. I don't want it to get to the point where you have one class of people slaving away all day to make ends meet, while everyone else sits around on welfare, never looking for a job, spending their time drinking, doing drugs, and making babies.

I agree that everyone needs to contribute to society in a positive way.

People that live only for their vice arent doing that but the problem is much much more complex than that.

I come from a community that had a very low unemployment rate until the wealthy decided to rip everyone off.

That created homeless people which in turn created drunks,whores,and drug addicts.

The problem isnt the character of the indivual be they wealthy or destitute,the problem is corruption.

There are even Christian churches of all denominations that have corrupted their followers twisting the word of God to fit comfortably into their lives.

In the process they taught the people that the basic principals that God gave us are negotiable...they arent..He gave us these principals so that we can build functioning societies.

We didnt do that...so many destitute dont even drink or do drugs,they are destitute because of corruption of His word.

So if i sound repetitive im typing on a phone with a half in. Window to see what ive typed and i lose my place easily.

 

[imfinallyfree]

Personally, I don't see why luxury items don't have big taxes. For example, a boat for pleasure, a motorcycle, cars with big price tags, jewelry, designer clothes. There could be a "luxury tax". If a person is wealthy enough to buy a jetski, then the person probably has a couple of thousand to blow on taxes. If a jetski now costs $10,000 plus state and city taxes, a federal luxury tax could be added on the total. Let's face it, raising income taxes on wealthy people is not the answer. Wealthy people are quite astute at finding loopholes. If the retailer is responsible for turning over X amount of luxury taxes to the federal government, then the retailer will make sure the buyer will pay his luxury tax.

I don't think high property taxes are a good idea. We have very low property taxes in Alabama, so most middle class and even people in lower classes are able to buy a piece of land and own their own homes. This is not the case everywhere in the US. Property taxes are often poorly assessed as we have had the problem in our county with one person's property taxes being 5% of the property's worth, while the next door neighbor's property tax may be assessed at 10% of the property's worth. I don't think it is corruption, per se, but incompetence. Also, people who are annoyed with the assessment can petition to get their property reassessed, which usually always ends in a reduction of tax, which shows how arbitrary this system really is.

I'm not really well versed in economics or politics, but taxing luxury goods seems like a good idea to me. If I had enough money to buy a Rolex watch, I'd not begrudge a couple of extra thousand dollars for taxes. But maybe that is WHY I don't have enough money to buy a Rolex watch!

Its corruption alright and not just of economics but corruption of ideals and beliefs.

Once these wealthy people get wealthy they buy or build entire communities specifically for the purpose of enforcing their own beliefs.

Beliefs like hate,greed,and lust,which are in direct opposition of Gods word.

So its going against Gods word that is directly causing the degeneration of society.

 

[JaumeJ]

Let's imagine the future should this trend continue.

What do you suppose will be the outcome of this "greed is good" activity of the newly rich?

It seems that class of people do not like the idea of an economically viable working class opting instead fro enslaving all who are weaker than they.

Their goal seems to be to amass all the assets they are able to gather currency, jewels, precious metals, souls even.

I believe I see the out come clearly. Once the absolute majority, those who used to be the buying pubblic will no longer be able to maintain the status quo of the very wealthy's incomes. The very wealthy will be sittin on their piles of goods and those piles of goods will be worhless because there will be no more with the financial wherewithall to support their no longer viable amassing of wealth. Other wealthy people are not going actually work for anything, buying power will disintigrae and all monetary systems will collaps.

Since 1969 I have been witnessing the steacy march to self-destruction of that upper calss (as they think of themselves) of people. It is at the doorstep, so prepare you hearts, souls and minds.

 

[Depleted]

In some countries exremist governing parties are taxing things such as sugar (to protect the health of the masses), menatl incapacities, i.e. alzeimer's, even having an unused bedroom in your home .

It seems all taxes imposed by this genre of humanity are aimed at the masses doing great harm to their incomes and buying power.

Here is a revolutionary and new (not-so-new) idea.

Why not pas laws to tax those with an overflow of abundance, the wealthy that is, instead of the poor?

What countries? My city imposed a 1.5% tax per ounce on sweetened drinks. Not just sugar, any sweetener. Almond milk is now taxed. Sweetened water is taxed. Diet soda is taxed.

The poor have done the obvious thing -- buy soda outside the city. lol

They do tax the rich on rich-man's stuff. You know you can afford a yacht or a Rolls Royce when you don't have to ask, "and how much are the taxes?" lol

 

[Depleted]

I have no problem with wealthy people paying a higher percentage of tax, within reason. I don't want it to get to the point where you have one class of people slaving away all day to make ends meet, while everyone else sits around on welfare, never looking for a job, spending their time drinking, doing drugs, and making babies.

Have you not yet noticed? Rich people are taxed at humongous levels and some people are still on Welfare.

BTW, we were on Welfare because I became disabled, and finally won a whopping $839 a month from Disability. Then he became disabled, and hadn't won his case yet. We're "sitting around" because we can't find employers willing to let us work 6-10 hours a week only on the days we can work, and then make the same money we made when we were working fulltime. Just can't seem to find that kind, wonderful boss willing to pay us even when we can't work.

 

[Willie-T]

Personally, I don't see why luxury items don't have big taxes. For example, a boat for pleasure, a motorcycle, cars with big price tags, jewelry, designer clothes. There could be a "luxury tax". If a person is wealthy enough to buy a jetski, then the person probably has a couple of thousand to blow on taxes. If a jetski now costs $10,000 plus state and city taxes, a federal luxury tax could be added on the total. Let's face it, raising income taxes on wealthy people is not the answer. Wealthy people are quite astute at finding loopholes. If the retailer is responsible for turning over X amount of luxury taxes to the federal government, then the retailer will make sure the buyer will pay his luxury tax.

I don't think high property taxes are a good idea. We have very low property taxes in Alabama, so most middle class and even people in lower classes are able to buy a piece of land and own their own homes. This is not the case everywhere in the US. Property taxes are often poorly assessed as we have had the problem in our county with one person's property taxes being 5% of the property's worth, while the next door neighbor's property tax may be assessed at 10% of the property's worth. I don't think it is corruption, per se, but incompetence. Also, people who are annoyed with the assessment can petition to get their property reassessed, which usually always ends in a reduction of tax, which shows how arbitrary this system really is.

I'm not really well versed in economics or politics, but taxing luxury goods seems like a good idea to me. If I had enough money to buy a Rolex watch, I'd not begrudge a couple of extra thousand dollars for taxes. But maybe that is WHY I don't have enough money to buy a Rolex watch!

You obviously own a computer. Should you be taxed for that? How about all your cosmetics or jewelry.... I did say ALL.... no reason you can't shampoo with laundry soap, since anything more than that certainly should be taxed as something far more than you truly need. Got a TV? You don't need it, you COULD be reading.

This pitiful excuse that the rich should pay for the poor is kind of disgusting.

 

[Depleted]

Personally, I don't see why luxury items don't have big taxes. For example, a boat for pleasure, a motorcycle, cars with big price tags, jewelry, designer clothes. There could be a "luxury tax". If a person is wealthy enough to buy a jetski, then the person probably has a couple of thousand to blow on taxes. If a jetski now costs $10,000 plus state and city taxes, a federal luxury tax could be added on the total. Let's face it, raising income taxes on wealthy people is not the answer. Wealthy people are quite astute at finding loopholes. If the retailer is responsible for turning over X amount of luxury taxes to the federal government, then the retailer will make sure the buyer will pay his luxury tax.

I don't think high property taxes are a good idea. We have very low property taxes in Alabama, so most middle class and even people in lower classes are able to buy a piece of land and own their own homes. This is not the case everywhere in the US. Property taxes are often poorly assessed as we have had the problem in our county with one person's property taxes being 5% of the property's worth, while the next door neighbor's property tax may be assessed at 10% of the property's worth. I don't think it is corruption, per se, but incompetence. Also, people who are annoyed with the assessment can petition to get their property reassessed, which usually always ends in a reduction of tax, which shows how arbitrary this system really is.

I'm not really well versed in economics or politics, but taxing luxury goods seems like a good idea to me. If I had enough money to buy a Rolex watch, I'd not begrudge a couple of extra thousand dollars for taxes. But maybe that is WHY I don't have enough money to buy a Rolex watch!

Then define "luxuries." Because you know what I consider "luxury items?" Teddy bears, cell phones, Internet access, computers, cable TV, a car, concerts, restaurants, tablets, buying music, shrimp, streak, flounder, scallops, subscriptions, outside furniture, candy, plants, skate boards, TVs, paper plates, etc.

(Funny you should say that. The premise of my novel series is the government banned luxury items. Anything anyone doesn't need is a luxury items. Little did the government understand, stuffed animals are alive. Because of that, I've spent quite a lot of time determining what is and what isn't a luxury item. Knick knacks? Luxury items! )

The problem with determining what should and shouldn't be taxed, as far as consumer goods go, is someone is always richer than you, and someone is always poorer than you. So, who gets to decide who gets punished for their money?

 

[Depleted]

Its corruption alright and not just of economics but corruption of ideals and beliefs.

Once these wealthy people get wealthy they buy or build entire communities specifically for the purpose of enforcing their own beliefs.

Beliefs like hate,greed,and lust,which are in direct opposition of Gods word.

So its going against Gods word that is directly causing the degeneration of society.

And that "corruption" goes spiraling down, because you think the rich owe you! That too is greed!

 

[Depleted]

Let's imagine the future should this trend continue.

What do you suppose will be the outcome of this "greed is good" activity of the newly rich?

It seems that class of people do not like the idea of an economically viable working class opting instead fro enslaving all who are weaker than they.

Their goal seems to be to amass all the assets they are able to gather currency, jewels, precious metals, souls even.

I believe I see the out come clearly. Once the absolute majority, those who used to be the buying pubblic will no longer be able to maintain the status quo of the very wealthy's incomes. The very wealthy will be sittin on their piles of goods and those piles of goods will be worhless because there will be no more with the financial wherewithall to support their no longer viable amassing of wealth. Other wealthy people are not going actually work for anything, buying power will disintigrae and all monetary systems will collaps.

Since 1969 I have been witnessing the steacy march to self-destruction of that upper calss (as they think of themselves) of people. It is at the doorstep, so prepare you hearts, souls and minds.

Who needs to look at the future? It's here already. In the US, Detroit and Camden, NJ shows what happens when the middle class are ripped out. Rich leave, no jobs because the rich are the ones hiring, (never work for a poor man, unless you want to work for free), and then all that is left is needy.

It's started in Philadelphia. At the rate this city is going down hill, I can see us living in a slum if we live for another 20 years. AND, we live in a middle-class neighborhood. When we moved in, it was the upper-end of middle-class. Most haven't noticed it's gone downhill since then.

Internationally, look at Greece! Look at the UK. Greece is there. The UK may have diverted with the Brexit but only time will tell.

As for the upper-class? Got that in my family too. All eight businesses are still successful. (Been successful since before WWII. Successful enough that my great-grandfather took ten years off to be the undersecretary of the Treasury for FDR. Yupper, my great grandfather was Eliott Ness's boss.) The polo set are still off patting down divots in the middle of the game. The ones who want to contribute something are still restoring mansions or organizing charity balls. You can not lay this on them. Yeesh! They earned their money. They hired workers. They invested well, and they deserve all the good they got.

Very irritating that even Christians blame this on the rich, as if they are the evil ones. Isn't envy evil too?

The problem is too many people demand they get whatever their hearts are set on, and so they vote for the politician who promises them what they want. It's greed, but not from the rich only.

 

[Depleted]

You obviously own a computer. Should you be taxed for that? How about all your cosmetics or jewelry.... I did say ALL.... no reason you can't shampoo with laundry soap, since anything more than that certainly should be taxed as something far more than you truly need. Got a TV? You don't need it, you COULD be reading.

This pitiful excuse that the rich should pay for the poor is kind of disgusting.

Have you ever tried washing your hair with powdered laundry detergent? Too hard getting the flakes out. Much better to use a bar of soap.

 

[Willie-T]

I know many of us will see this as a joke. But, it IS important. I have to say I have never seen a poor man advertising tor help for his business. It is the people who are willing to take risks and put in long, long hours to make an endeavor successful, that REALLY make this world go 'round.

 

[resurrection33]

Have you not yet noticed? Rich people are taxed at humongous levels and some people are still on Welfare.

BTW, we were on Welfare because I became disabled, and finally won a whopping $839 a month from Disability. Then he became disabled, and hadn't won his case yet. We're "sitting around" because we can't find employers willing to let us work 6-10 hours a week only on the days we can work, and then make the same money we made when we were working fulltime. Just can't seem to find that kind, wonderful boss willing to pay us even when we can't work.

I should have qualified my remark to mean able-bodied people who sit around on welfare.

 

[JaumeJ]

There is family here from the countries in mind whom I do not wish to embarass, but mankin should be embarrassed....

As long as the very wealthy continually pick away at their own consumer base, that base will disappear leaving the monetary systems worthless. This is occurring in all western countries with half-jobs being created in them. Many families are living on very low-paid half-jobs with people working two and three of them earning less than the economy used to support on one decent job.

It is not just one country, it is many, and for now they have progressed to having the working poor. This should not be and the class syste(s) directing this economic activity should not be.

What countries? My city imposed a 1.5% tax per ounce on sweetened drinks. Not just sugar, any sweetener. Almond milk is now taxed. Sweetened water is taxed. Diet soda is taxed.

The poor have done the obvious thing -- buy soda outside the city. lol

They do tax the rich on rich-man's stuff. You know you can afford a yacht or a Rolls Royce when you don't have to ask, "and how much are the taxes?" lol

 

[Rockrz]

Why not pas laws to tax those with an overflow of abundance, the wealthy that is, instead of the poor?

Socialist much???

How about you mind yo own bidness... and let the other guy mind his bidness?

 

[JaumeJ]

It is just a little bit idiotic for the wealthy to systematically destroy their own consumer base as described already.

As for taxes on computers, there are taxes on computers, on any kind of sonsumer consumption, either outrigh or hidden.

Any industry or corporation supported by the US Government is paid for by the citizens, rich or poor. Taxes are on just about everything thse days.......and again remember the hidden taxes all pay.

The last of the benefactor super wealthy are only Bill Gates and others, a very few, who are somewhat like him. The majority of the new wealth isin the hands of those who believe greed os good.........

My concern is for those following, for now, yes the future may not be important to me, but to the young it is, and for this reason it is important to me.

 

[Galatea]

You obviously own a computer. Should you be taxed for that? How about all your cosmetics or jewelry.... I did say ALL.... no reason you can't shampoo with laundry soap, since anything more than that certainly should be taxed as something far more than you truly need. Got a TV? You don't need it, you COULD be reading.

This pitiful excuse that the rich should pay for the poor is kind of disgusting.

Absolutely, computers should be taxed, huge televisions should be taxed, I would say a luxury item would be something at a certain price point. Let's say any item that costs $500.00 or above is considered a "luxury". If I am well off enough to buy a piece of jewelry worth $500 or more, hey- I'm doing pretty well and can afford a 10% federal luxury tax on top of my city and state taxes. I did not mean to suggest that EVERY nonessential is a luxury. Of course, shampoo or a $20 watch might be a luxury item for some, but let's set the price point where an item would be considered a luxury for MOST.