Dan. 9

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samuel23 said:
I believe when Jesus spoke to the disciples about the future end of Judea that He also spoke of the future end of the age and His return. It is easy enough to see that the first generation of the church probably saw these as one event, however there are clues in what Jesus said that shows that they were never the one event. To make it even more complicated, both events had some things in common. Here are a few clues, when Jesus told the disciples to flee Judea when they saw the armies of Rome coming, that was for that generation. When Jesus described His actual return He did not tell the disciples to flee but told them to stand their ground. There are certain things that Jesus said would happen in that generation and it is an historic fact that those things have happened, so those things were for that generation. OK, we have the disciples of Christ being told to flee Judea and that was for 70ad. Later in Revelation we have a symbol of Israel being told to flee to the wilderness, that could be the end of the age when the false prophet sets up the image of the Beast and demands that all worship him. There were two great events that were written about, first the end of Judea and the scattering of the Jewish people, second the end of the age when Christ returns. Whoever takes the position that it ALL happened in 70ad has to be wrong because some things have not happened yet, others who take the position that it is all future are denying historic fact.
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They are not denying historic fact as the pictures and shadows which GOD uses to point us to the truth of what is to come and is a future event

all of GOD's WOTD spoken in Lower visible signs and representations were always pointing us to the HIDDEN and HIGHER TRUTHS of the ONE TESTIMONY of CHRIST

GOD knows our limited humanity
HE knows we need signs and shadows to understand what is invisible amd can only be known by HIS SPIRIT

And He graciously provided them
 
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I think on a couple of occasions going through US passport control.
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Now you seem to be getting snide

please tell me how the Romans have control over the dome that they can make a covenant worh jerusalem allowing them to rebuild their temple?
 
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Sometimes it is a good idea to first look carefully at the things that are rock solid and cannot be changed and then go on to the things that maybe could be changed somewhat. Number one rock solid doctrine, as long as the church age remains(before the gathering of the church), the JEWS CANNOT BUILD A TEMPLE OF GOD. This is an absolute fact and here is why, during the time of the church age the Temple of God IS the church, also, no God rejecting persons such as Christ rejecting Jews could build a Temple of God. So whatever Paul meant in 2Thess it COULD NOT mean that Christ rejecting Israel during the church age will build a Temple of God. Until Christians are willing to accept rock solid scriptural reality then everyone will keep going in circles. I don't even consider the idea of the Jews building a Temple of God, I used to think that they would, but scripture has shown me that that is one idea that cannot come true.
 
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miknik5 said:
Now you seem to be getting snide

please tell me how the Romans have control over the dome that they can make a covenant worh jerusalem allowing them to rebuild their temple?
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You're getting too serious....no offence meant
 
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miknik5 said:
Now you seem to be getting snide

please tell me how the Romans have control over the dome that they can make a covenant worh jerusalem allowing them to rebuild their temple?
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The Jews are actually in control of Jerusalem and the Temple Mound and could do with it what they want if they really decided to do it, they ALLOW the Muslims to seem to have control over the Temple Mound as a way of appeasement.
 
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I think it is Mount....it is not manmade to the best of my knowledge
 
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I think it is Mount....it is not manmade to the best of my knowledge
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It is not manmade? There is only one FOUMDATION that all must concern themselves with and it isn't the dome/mount
 
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J7 said:
You're getting too serious....no offence meant
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The TRUTH that building another temple as not necessary is very serious and will cost the lives of those who warn their Jewish ignorant brothers of THIS TRUTH
 
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samuel23 said:
The Jews are actually in control of Jerusalem and the Temple Mound and could do with it what they want if they really decided to do it, they ALLOW the Muslims to seem to have control over the Temple Mound as a way of appeasement.
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​It is actually the Temple Mount :)
 
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samuel23 said:
The Jews are actually in control of Jerusalem and the Temple Mound and could do with it what they want if they really decided to do it, they ALLOW the Muslims to seem to have control over the Temple Mound as a way of appeasement.
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Really? I didn't know that
so what is stopping them from building?
 
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J7 said:
I think it is Mount....it is not manmade to the best of my knowledge
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I feel that you are spying out Christians and their understanding and trying to get information against them
 
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miknik5 said:
I feel that you are spying out Christians and their understanding and trying to get information against them
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lol. I think you need to come off the Prozac love
 
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kaylagrl said:
The reason is??....
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A feeling from the posts that are going back and forth since my mentioning that Rome is not the one who will be entering into a covenant with Daniel's people
 
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Ok, really Miknik. Chill. My sense of humour obviously does not gel with you.

When was Jesus detained 21 days?

It was Michael the defender wasn't it who was detained 21 days?

And I apologize for being facetious.
 
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A feeling from the posts that are going back and forth since my mentioning that Rome is not the one who will be entering into a covenant with Daniel's people
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Ahh I see,nothing that I said. I had to be sure. :)
 
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J7 said:
Ok, really Miknik. Chill. My sense of humour obviously does not gel with you.

When was Jesus detained 21 days?

It was Michael the defender wasn't it who was detained 21 days?

And I apologize for being facetious.
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Nope. It was the "man in linen" who is not Michael
 
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