Take note those who read this that the ones who suggest the Sabbath is not meant to be kept can not and will not address the OT/Old Testament concerning this issue.
Jesus the Apostles and every New Testament writer backed up their teaching with quotes and references from the OT. Don't take my word for it go check it our yourself to see if its true or not.
These guys have never been able to do the same and thus manipulate the NT but can not shew it from the OT. Don't take my word for it check their posts and see how they have never been able to shew from the OT the first witness that their position is from God.
They ignore posts that challenge them on this because they know they can't provide evidence for their position in the OT.
They give Supposed evidence form the NT for their position because they don't know the OT. For example Col 2 where they say and this thread has claimed that the 7th day Sabbath is just a shadow. Here it is:
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
They will use this as proof that the Sabbath was just a shadow but what they will not tell you is that there are multiple Sabbaths in the OT.
The 7th day Sabbath and then the Sabbaths that were attached to the yearly sacrificial festivals.
One came in Gen 2 in connection with creation a finished work of God before sin came into the world in chapter 3.
The others instituted after sin came into the word connected to the sanctuary service in regards to salvation.
Jesus came to deal with sin not his perfect work before sin. Don't take my word for it read it yourself.
The reason they so abuse the NT is because they are unlearned not knowing the OT and not following the example of the NT writers who proved everything with a thus saith the lord otherwise known as the OT.
Again this if for those who are interested and are like the noble Bereans
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Ps the scriptures they searched was the OT, no NT at the time. They checked the OT to test if what Paul was teaching was true or not. Do the same for these on this site and you will find they have no substance to their arguments.
I don't say this to insult them, I know they are doing what they think is right, Yet they remain willingly ignorant when they have had this pointed out over and over again. And while they can not go against it nor deny it and yet still can not do as the NT writers did and prove their position from the OT scriptures, they continue to spread the teachings of men.
Be aware and again don't take my word for it check it out yourself to see if what I am saying is true.
Another thing..who claims the Sabbath is not to be kept? There is not an issue with anyone keeping the Sabbath, and that's been clearly stated, I think, by more than one person.
Judaizers claim that those who aren't keeping the Sabbath or festivals, or clean meat laws are in sin. That is the issue here..Judaizers.
I personally don't care if someone keeps the Sabbath, It can be a valuable practice. It causes the person to focus on study and spiritual contemplation, and it can be useful, especially in the initial phases of their faith.
There's a big leap in that, and claiming that someone MUST keep it and is in sin if they don't keep it. And that is the view of Judaizers. And, they judge others for non-observance.
I've mentioned this before..you've skirted around this, but why did Paul never mention Sabbath-breaking or eating unclean meat as a sin in his epistles? Some members of the NT church were slaves, and they would not have been able to dictate their diet or their work schedule. It's inevitable it would have been an issue, and if it were a sin issue, it would have been mentioned. The sin lists in his epistles were fairly comprehensive, including various "obvious" sins and less obvious sins. I would have expected to see something about Sabbath-breaking or eating unclean meat if it was an issue, but instead I see..nothing. This is one of the fundamental things I noticed as I was led out of being a Judaizer...it simply was not coherent.
Armstrongites had an answer for this, though..the Bible is a coded book and God wasn't calling everyone now..he was intentionally hiding details like this, but only the "elect" were enlightened to see the continuing applicability. So, that's how they explained the lack of coverage in Paul's epistles.
They tried to prove continued applicability by referring to OT prophecies regarding the Sabbath and festivals..that they will be observed in the future, so that suggests applicability today..and there are Scriptures like that in the OT prophets. The issue, though, is that those Scriptures also mentioned things Armstrongites don't do, like observing New Moons..so their reasoning was inconsistent. SDAs might ask themselves the same question..if they are using OT prophecies to prove continuing applicability, why aren't they observing New Moons as well? See Isaiah 66 if you want more details on this. It mentions unclean meats, Sabbaths, and New Moons. If you use the Scripture regarding Sabbath, you'd better consider that New Moons are applicable too or you're not being consistent.
So, I think it's very important to notice inconsistencies amongst these organizations and those who are making claims..if they use a Scripture to support something, and in the same context, something they don't observe is mentioned, what does that tell you? It tells you they are being inconsistent. And these Judaizer organizations ARE inconsistent. Their inconsistencies are what nails them. I already pointed out how SDAs allow and perform abortions but make such a big deal out of the Sabbath...what does that tell you? They claim the Ten Commandments as a whole, including the Sabbath, are still applicable, but they are ok with hacking babies to death in the womb? Give me a break. Preach that the Roman Catholic church is the whore of Babylon, with the Mark of the Beast (Sundaykeeping), but be OK with hacking babies to death in the womb?
As a younger Armstrongite, I noticed a few blatant inconsistencies like this, and brought them up, but in the end I simply dismissed them, trusting my teachers were competent.
