Not By Works
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You have called him a psychopath many times. If you want, I'd be glad to go find those posts and prove that you lie when you say you've never called Dcon a psychopath. 
One such reason this thread should be deleted or closed....
Its giving one side of the debate victim ability to act out, while accusing the other side of foul play...
Reminds me of recess in preschool
PHart - is making a general observation of the attitude of some, not being specific on cc
or elsewhere to attaching faith and works and then also detaching it.
It is a valid construct with a valid contradiction.
Now if the statement was linked to a specific person or statement you could say it
was a lie about someones position, or even pushing an agenda, but it is just a construct
and illuminating a problem.
On the other hand dc is attacking someone, accusing them of lying and preaching something
in the post which is just not there.
So all I can make of this is someone is emotionally upset and wants to do harm to another,
but has no ammunition so is inventing it. But if one is standing for truth, honesty and integrity
this is self defeating, unless they are not standing for this, so there are no constraints, morality
does not matter and anything goes????
But that is the way of the world, not the way of Christ. And it just demonstrates why we have
little respect for anyone who does this, because they deny the simple phrase, let your yes be
yes and your no be no, and do not bear false witness against your neighbour.
or elsewhere to attaching faith and works and then also detaching it.
It is a valid construct with a valid contradiction.
Now if the statement was linked to a specific person or statement you could say it
was a lie about someones position, or even pushing an agenda, but it is just a construct
and illuminating a problem.
On the other hand dc is attacking someone, accusing them of lying and preaching something
in the post which is just not there.
So all I can make of this is someone is emotionally upset and wants to do harm to another,
but has no ammunition so is inventing it. But if one is standing for truth, honesty and integrity
this is self defeating, unless they are not standing for this, so there are no constraints, morality
does not matter and anything goes????
But that is the way of the world, not the way of Christ. And it just demonstrates why we have
little respect for anyone who does this, because they deny the simple phrase, let your yes be
yes and your no be no, and do not bear false witness against your neighbour.
Amen sister.
There are many IF's in the N.T.
Many just refuse to see them...
1 Corinthians 15:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
The Resurrection of Christ
15
1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
There are many IF's in the N.T.
Many just refuse to see them...
1 Corinthians 15:1-2 New International Version (NIV)
The Resurrection of Christ
15
1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
At the end of the day.....the workers for will attempt to work their way into the kingdom and those who believe grace dia faith will continue to trust Jesus and take him at his word....
Tragic because ONLY those who go before the throne pushing their works as the means of entry will be cast.....faith plus works = false gospel....end of story....I am done arguing with workers for....I believe faith thru grace eternal salvation maintained by Christ and his working power....You want to trust yourself and your works...have a ball!!!!!!
Tragic because ONLY those who go before the throne pushing their works as the means of entry will be cast.....faith plus works = false gospel....end of story....I am done arguing with workers for....I believe faith thru grace eternal salvation maintained by Christ and his working power....You want to trust yourself and your works...have a ball!!!!!!
Just curious..... you did say you were a former pastor, didn't you?
Maybe you didn't see this..... I was hoping to get an answer.
Zi,
Do you know how to post scripture?
I added a few verses...
2 Peter 1:3-11 New International Version (NIV)
Confirming One’s Calling and Election
3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;
6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness;
7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love.
8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.
10 Therefore, my brothers and sisters,[a] make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Do you know how to post scripture?
I added a few verses...
2 Peter 1:3-11 New International Version (NIV)
Confirming One’s Calling and Election
3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;
6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness;
7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love.
8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.
10 Therefore, my brothers and sisters,[a] make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.