Thought you might be interested. This was handed out to catholics after their church service. All about the "immaculate" and no mention of Jesus at all!
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"We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, the Mother of the church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role on behalf of the members of Christ".
That is a direct quote of Pope Paul VI, CPG 15
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Yea I've seen that stuff, no scripture supports the theory, it comes from the wedding in Cana in that Mary was compassionate in wanting the guest to have more wine, it's a theory only.
Some people on this site seem very quick to consign people to Hell for various false beliefs Catholics in particular. I believe God looks at the intentions of the Heart not whether their Doctrine/theology is exactly in line. If you are brought up as a Catholic chances are you wont know any different from that which your family friends and Church teach you. God judges according to the light an individual receives.
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No doubt I've seen as well the to consign people to hell statements, that's something I've never done, I may disagree and or even rebuke a belief, though I'll never say to anybody they are going to hell for such or such.
[h=2]Is Mary a intercessor? NO.
The Spirit Himself makes intercessions for us;He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.[/h](Romans 8)
25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for [it] with perseverance.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit [is,] because He makes intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.
The Spirit Himself makes intercessions for us;He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.[/h](Romans 8)
25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for [it] with perseverance.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit [is,] because He makes intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.
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speaking on the catholic religion, I do have respect for some of the martyrs of the day, St. Lawrence being one to come to mind, he got placed on a grid iron cooked alive so the story goes for giving money and things to the poor and needy.
sister Theresa did a lot of honorable things as well, and I like quite few of her poems and short messages.
sister Theresa did a lot of honorable things as well, and I like quite few of her poems and short messages.
- Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body.
- The papa is the head of the catholic religion.
- The papa is the head of the catholic religion.
Mary is nobody's intercessor. Some religions teach praying to Mary but that is a doctrine of demons...to put it simply.
There is ONE mediator between God and man, that is the Man Christ Jesus. There is no other
Why do they pray to Mary? I thought you knew. The Romanist church teaches them to pray to Mary. After all she is the eternal God's 'mother' and a huge money maker for that religion
LOL Mary WAS a sinner just like everyone else. Why else would she need a savior?
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No Sir Mary is not the intercessor, though quite a remarkable woman indeed, loved Her little boy who grew to man, watched Her little boy she loved and cherished get torn to pieces.
It is no coincident that Paul wrote to the Church in Rome, because they practiced Idoltry and other things. describing the works of the Roman church.. One was about worshiping Mary in Romans;1; 25; Who changed the truth of God into a lie,and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever more. This whole chapter describe the Roman Catholic Church. they hold the truth in unrighteousness.
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That's a good post thanks, that's quite interesting though where they practicing more of paganism or of catholism? the time frame Paul wrote his letters where in the first 100 years AD. I have read some articles that say around the year 300 AD, Christianity was still just a minority religion in the Roman Empire, practiced by perhaps ten percent of the population. In some years it was discriminated against; in some years it was persecuted. By 400 AD, a century later, it had become the official religion practiced by pretty much everyone.
They use all kinds of passages to build up Mary.
They add to it.
The catechism is more important than the Bible.
Church Fathers rule over the Bible.
And rumor has it they have billions of dollars worth of relics and treasures hidden down in the catacombs, in the parts not open to the public.