Did Muhammad really see Gabriel or was it just satan posing as an angel of light?

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blessings7777

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hi, i did not mean anything and i said i was not to judge, i know there is good and bad in all
that is why i do not use Christian, i say I am a believer they can figure that one out for themselves..
 
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The bible is true. Inspired by God. Mohammad hated Christians. He is a liar and the truth is not in him.
 
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I don't know if it was Satan or another Demon, but I am trying to find if Muhammed ever cast out any demons, nothing yet, seems to me Islam itself was to contrast Christianity even reading the Koran it seems like reading from the Apocrypha with a hint of deception and twisting of our Bible like a mockery of some sort.

I found an online ask Muslims anything site and they said about casting out in the name of Jesus that we were able to do it because satan wants us to do the wrong thing and so when we do by using Jesus name he will leave us alone.
I wanted to ask, How could satan cast out satan? but the thread was closed.
 
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I don't know if it was Satan or another Demon, but I am trying to find if Muhammed ever cast out any demons, nothing yet, seems to me Islam itself was to contrast Christianity even reading the Koran it seems like reading from the Apocrypha with a hint of deception and twisting of our Bible like a mockery of some sort. I found an online ask Muslims anything site and they said about casting out in the name of Jesus that we were able to do it because satan wants us to do the wrong thing and so when we do by using Jesus name he will leave us alone. I wanted to ask, How could satan cast out satan? but the thread was closed.
Muhammad stated bizarre things such as the Devil sleeps in your nose & urinates in your ears. People of Islam do everything in the name of their false God "Allah" so there's no way for them to cast out demons because they only have darkness & not the light of Christ.
 

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Ten things you should know about Islam and the quran.

[video=youtube;qv1cWoa-N_U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv1cWoa-N_U[/video]
 
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Did Muhammad really see Gabriel or was it just satan posing as an angel of light?
Stoopid question dude!

What was the result of mohamid's encounter??? Teaching in agreement with God's Word, or in opposition to God's Word?

Since he taught a bunch of garbage that is in opposition to God's Word... obviously, he did not have an encounter with one of God's angels... he had an encounter with one of satan's minions.
 

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Hi, Muhammad is not God, nor Jesus, I have learned a lot as a Christian to read the bible
The Bible teaches that Jesus is God; please keep reading Scriptures to be better informed of the Truth. Start with the book/gospel of John, as it explicitly states that Jesus was with God from the beginning as the Word, and that the Word took on flesh to walk among us. If you deny that Jesus is God, you deny a core Christian doctrine.
 

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Even Satan dare not claim that he can offer eternal life,because he cannot prove it or do it. Only God can lay claim to that and he have proved it and have done it. there is no other faith that offers eternal life. And I would go with a God,the only God that does offer it. The question is, will you choose life, through Jesus Christ, or Death by way of Satan.?
 
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Technically speaking... everyone has eternal life as in everyone is going to live and be alive and conscious forever and ever.

Question is... will you be living with God for eternity where they is no darkness and no evil?

OR, will you live in hell where they is no light and nothing that is good being tormented day and night?

Some speak as though you live forever is you accept Jesus which is not true... those that reject Jesus and those that do not walk with Him will live forever too but they will be separated from God.
 

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Technically speaking... everyone has eternal life as in everyone is going to live and be alive and conscious forever and ever.
Scripture says that only God is immortal, and that those whose names are not found written in the Lamb's book of life pass into the second death following the resurrection and judgment of all.
 
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Jesus can raise the dead, why not call him to come down from heaven to raise Muhammad from the grave. Then we can all make thousands of questions for proof.
 

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Jesus can raise the dead, why not call him to come down from heaven to raise Muhammad from the grave. Then we can all make thousands of questions for proof.
We dont have to do that to know Islam is false, its actually really easy to disprove Islam is false.

Islam claims that no one can change allahs word-

Quran 18:27 "And recite what has been revealed to you of the book of your lord, there is none who can alter his words; and you shall not find any refuge besides him"

Islam also claims that the Gospel and torah come from him as well-

Quran 3:3-4 "He has revealed to you the book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and he revealed the torah and the Gosple aforetime, a guidance for mankind, and he revealed the criterion."

And he even tells us Christians to judge Islam by the Gospel, that if we do not do so, we are just as bad as the unbelievers-

Quran 5:47 "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what allah hath reveled therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel."

If you know what Islam teaches, you know that it tells you Christ was no more than a messenger, that allah has no son, and that Christ did not die on the cross for our sins.

If you know what the Gospel teaches, Christ called Himself the Son of God, who existed with God before the world ever existed, who would be the judge on the last day, who came to die for our sins, and that He is the "Good Shepherd".

So, if I as a Christian am to judge Islam by the Gospel, it is obvious that Muhammad was a false prophet : p

Luckily, the Bible already covered this in 1 John 2:22.
 
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We dont have to do that to know Islam is false, its actually really easy to disprove Islam is false..
I agree
Islam claims that no one can change allahs word- .
So the Quran is false because Muslims believe man changed the torah, and the gospel (Injil) is missing
Quran 18:27 "And recite what has been revealed to you of the book of your lord, there is none who can alter his words; and you shall not find any refuge besides him".
So the Quran contradicts itself, and yet many nominal Christians convert to Islam. Sad that this forum won't allow Muslims to debate us in a comparative religious section. You sound prepared for them.
Islam also claims that the Gospel and torah come from him as well-.
True but modern day Muslim claim the gospel is missing. Their misconception is that the gospel of Jesus is missing and that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John is corrupted and yet they imperfectly borrow from our gospel. The truth is that was the same gospel Muhammad had in his hand at the time and Muslims are badly deceived, by "The Best of Deceivers"
Quran 3:3-4 "He has revealed to you the book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and he revealed the torah and the Gosple aforetime, a guidance for mankind, and he revealed the criterion.".
It is more like the Quran usurps than confirms as it states.
And he even tells us Christians to judge Islam by the Gospel, that if we do not do so, we are just as bad as the unbelievers-.
That is correct, but it also tells us Christians to stand on the revelation we received for we can do no other. Out revelation is Jesus Crucified and they reject the Truth.
Quran 5:47 "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what allah hath reveled therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.".
Yes, and judge with do. Muhammad is a false prophet.
If you know what Islam teaches, you know that it tells you Christ was no more than a messenger, that allah has no son, and that Christ did not die on the cross for our sins..
That is correct they teach that someone looking like Jesus died on the cross to save Jesus.
If you know what the Gospel teaches, Christ called Himself the Son of God, who existed with God before the world ever existed, who would be the judge on the last day, who came to die for our sins, and that He is the "Good Shepherd"..
We know that and they know what we believe, but they call dying in that state the unforgiveable sin.
So, if I as a Christian am to judge Islam by the Gospel, it is obvious that Muhammad was a false prophet : p.
Obviously but not to Muslims
Luckily, the Bible already covered this in 1 John 2:22.
Luck has nothing to do with it.
 
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So the Quran contradicts itself, and yet many nominal Christians convert to Islam. Sad that this forum won't allow Muslims to debate us in a comparative religious section. You sound prepared for them.
At the risk of rustling some feathers, I think Id just be accused of racism and fear mongering if I did : p
Im not friendly enough when I debate Islam, I guess.
And its not about winning with me, its about helping everyone see why Muhammad is a false prophet, and placing their faith solely into Christ. Just as more educated people have done for me : p
(thats not an accusation being hurled at you btw, Ive just been told that I only care about winning due to not backing down from the facts)

And I do actually talk about this stuff online, even with Muslims. Ive even watched a Muslim come to Christ when others helped him get past the idea that the quran is filled with scientific facts. It was way cool seeing him ask to learn about Jesus : p
 
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At the risk of rustling some feathers, I think Id just be accused of racism and fear mongering if I did : p
Im not friendly enough when I debate Islam, I guess.
And its not about winning with me, its about helping everyone see why Muhammad is a false prophet, and placing their faith solely into Christ. Just as more educated people have done for me : p
(thats not an accusation being hurled at you btw, Ive just been told that I only care about winning due to not backing down from the facts)

And I do actually talk about this stuff online, even with Muslims. Ive even watched a Muslim come to Christ when others helped him get past the idea that the quran is filled with scientific facts. It was way cool seeing him ask to learn about Jesus : p
Which is an Islamic forum that you have joined.
 

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Jesus can raise the dead, why not call him to come down from heaven to raise Muhammad from the grave. Then we can all make thousands of questions for proof.
The Harvest is nigh until then we grow together. All in good time... let all come to pass.