My wife wants me to leave. She says she wants a divorce. And it's my fault.

[brighthouse98]

Brother RBW8,What good brother you are beginning to understand is not only what love is but also what love does. ( 1Cor 13:4-8) Please look close at verses 4-5. Love is not arrogant,it does not seek its own, exactly what you said you have been doing. I have seen many husbands wonder about there wife,yet in truth they are a mirror of what you yourself created both by word and then deed.

Now that you know this,the question is are you going to mature, ( 1 Cor 14:20) Love has an open hand,not a closed fist. Love does not look for a slave but rather to become one to the other.A servant! This you have learned as so many of us have the hard way.So now what to do?

We cannot make another do anything,rather since we now know what went wrong and why,we must examine ourself daily in the Lord!( 2 Cor 13:5) Not look to judge another, but rather clean up ones own backyard so others may see the difference in your mindset.

We take so many treasures for granted until that treasure becomes lost,then wonder why? It is not anger management you need brother,it is staying in God's word and giving your life, and every area of your life to him,when you get fixed,others will to! ( Phil 1:6) yes brother it will take time,did not not take time for your wonderful treasure to leave? And so it is brother we learn and we grow from hardship. Do not be discouraged! ( 2 Cor 3:14) and 2 Cor 4:16-18)

The Lord who can do all things and can cause her mindset to change for you,but first you must get your mind in order!( Rom 12:2!!) What you end up deciding brother will show you just how much you really do love her. My prayers are of course with you,and I hope this was not to blunt for you,but when someone told me the very same thing over a girlfriend I once lost,I began to understand that having knowledge is not enough, but acting upon that knowledge is even more important.( James 1:22) Blessing brother!

 

[blue_ladybug]

You're making yourself look foolish, Lynn. Obviously you didn't read his OP, you're just offering your own commentary about ME, as usual.. He refers to himself as an angry jealous guy. I do admit I shouldn't have said he's a jerk, so to the OP, I apologize..

He DID ask if there was anything he could do, so I told him.. But opinions are like eyeballs, everyone has one..lol..

This is the best woman I've ever met and I did not treat her like so. My jealousy and anger ruined our relationship. She is faithful and is God fearing. Today I left. She left exactly a week ago today. Will not speak to me on the phone. Will barely respond to messages on social media (the only way I've been able to contact her.)

she put God back in my life. She truly walks the walk. I was. It good to get. I thought that just because I provided for her, gave her lots of physical attention and didn't cheat that I was a great husband. I wasn't.

i was jealous and threatened her over the phone the day she left. Her mom doesn't want this for us because we are close too. Her mom said that my wife told her that she always feels like everything she does is wrong and nothing is ever good enough.

shes right. That's how I treated her. I never realized it until now. I've been reading some books. I'd like some recommendations for good books that might help.

Any advice? Right now I'm leaving because I feel she needs her space. I keep begging but I stopped that too. I pray she has forgiveness once she leaves her friends and goes home. I pray that she can see that I see where I was wrong and can be good to and for her. I never want to feel this way again. I don't want to lose my wife. She's perfect. Can I get some ways to "win her back". Without showing up at the house begging. I want to respect her space and I know ultimately she will have to make her decision on her own. But is there ANYTHING I can do at this point?

Yeah?

Where exactly did he decide he should "Respect her wishes for space, stop trying to contact her, stop begging, own up to how you treated her, and stop trying to win her back because in doing so, you may just push her further away?"

"You need to PROVE to her that you're going to be a better husband, and not an angry possessive jerk."

And when did he decide he is an "angry possessive jerk?"

You're about as truthful as Bill Clinton and as Christian and loving as the leaders of ISIS.

And I'm absolutely sure you'll spend the next 2-3 post defending yourself, because, of course, this has always been about you.

 

[RBW8]

Brother RBW8,What good brother you are beginning to understand is not only what love is but also what love does. ( 1Cor 13:4-8) Please look close at verses 4-5. Love is not arrogant,it does not seek its own, exactly what you said you have been doing. I have seen many husbands wonder about there wife,yet in truth they are a mirror of what you yourself created both by word and then deed.

Now that you know this,the question is are you going to mature, ( 1 Cor 14:20) Love has an open hand,not a closed fist. Love does not look for a slave but rather to become one to the other.A servant! This you have learned as so many of us have the hard way.So now what to do?

We cannot make another do anything,rather since we now know what went wrong and why,we must examine ourself daily in the Lord!( 2 Cor 13:5) Not look to judge another, but rather clean up ones own backyard so others may see the difference in your mindset.

We take so many treasures for granted until that treasure becomes lost,then wonder why? It is not anger management you need brother,it is staying in God's word and giving your life, and every area of your life to him,when you get fixed,others will to! ( Phil 1:6) yes brother it will take time,did not not take time for your wonderful treasure to leave? And so it is brother we learn and we grow from hardship. Do not be discouraged! ( 2 Cor 3:14) and 2 Cor 4:16-18)

The Lord who can do all things and can cause her mindset to change for you,but first you must get your mind in order!( Rom 12:2!!) What you end up deciding brother will show you just how much you really do love her. My prayers are of course with you,and I hope this was not to blunt for you,but when someone told me the very same thing over a girlfriend I once lost,I began to understand that having knowledge is not enough, but acting upon that knowledge is even more important.( James 1:22) Blessing brother!

Not too blunt at all. Very moving in fact. Thank you

 

[Depleted]

Actually I was pretty clear that yeah I apologized and begged but I said that I quit to give her space and leave her alone. But you already knew that and chose to ignore it.


Look, to the ladies; I'm sorry you had to go through whatever you went through. I will pray for you. I don't think anyone deserves it which is why I felt so crappy about it. Or pathetic. Or emotional. However you'd like to label it.


I understand how you could jump to conclusions. I'm really seeking help. It's not like I thought some random people on the internet would track my wife down and convince her to get back with me (lol). Maybe I don't communicate well. I was just giving a background on my emotions I was having and seeking guidance.


To those who went straight to the big picture, thank you. I feel really good. I have my sad moments but I feel good to be able to talk to God and know he's listening and I'm not just talking to myself. I know it's a lifestyle and nothing is fixed in a matter of days but I feel like I'm taking the right steps to walk in God's light.

I know she's not perfect. I feel she's perfect for me. She can be snarky at times but she would always bring up "being equally yoked". The truth was I wasn't and my heart wasn't truly in it no matter how many christian songs I listened to and services I attended.


I really do feel God's presence now. I tell myself not to judge. I quit curseing even though I'm around it all day at work. I'm noticing more brothers in Christ at work. I never paid attention to it. I put ROMANS 8:31 on my hard hat and enjoy people noticing and even more so telling people what it is when they ask.

Before it gets misconstrued (how could that ever happen? Lol) I want to say that I'm not claiming to be a perfect Christian. But I'm happy with the direction it's going.

God bless you all, I like the actual advice I did receive. I saved this site and plan to be a regular "go-to". There seems to be some good people here.

Warning: This is not going to seem connected at first, but keep reading to see how it is.

My BIL was saved at 12 years old. He was a fairly good kid, as far as "good kids" go, but after he was saved, he became a teenager. His life proceeded as if he was not saved.

When he was 21 he fell in love. The kind of "in love" that turns into full-fledged love and a lifetime together, so he asked her to marry him. She loved him as much as he loved her, but she surprised him by saying No. She couldn't marry him, because she was a Christian and couldn't marry someone who wasn't saved. (Unequally yoked.)

As expected, that shocked him. He took some time to think it over, remembered what happened to him at 12, and that was the moment his "saved" kicked in. God had already saved him, but he didn't do anything with that seriously until that moment in time hit when he had to take it seriously or else. And the "or else" scared him enough to do just that.

I think you just hit that "seriously or else" moment. I'm thrilled for you. It's a good moment, even if it's stuck right smack in the middle of "everything is going wrong."

Jonah had his moment too when he was swallowed by a large fish. I'm not sure at which moment in that large fish he decided it was "seriously or else," but he spent three days in 104 degree temperatures being marinaded in digestive juices of a fish, before who was vomited out to the very place God wanted him to be all along.

Expect that. Some good. Some bad. But all good, because God is setting things in motion to make sure you land right where he wanted you to be at that time all along. God will grace you to do what he would have you do.

So, congratulations! You've just realized you're saved. You intentionally signed up for life long "what in the world will happen next" knowing it can only work out according to three verses right before your favorite verse right now. (Hey! You like Romans 8:31? I'm more of an 8:28 kind of person, but it's all in the same thought line. lol)

 

[TemporaryCircumstances]

Warning: This is not going to seem connected at first, but keep reading to see how it is.

My BIL was saved at 12 years old. He was a fairly good kid, as far as "good kids" go, but after he was saved, he became a teenager. His life proceeded as if he was not saved.

When he was 21 he fell in love. The kind of "in love" that turns into full-fledged love and a lifetime together, so he asked her to marry him. She loved him as much as he loved her, but she surprised him by saying No. She couldn't marry him, because she was a Christian and couldn't marry someone who wasn't saved. (Unequally yoked.)

As expected, that shocked him. He took some time to think it over, remembered what happened to him at 12, and that was the moment his "saved" kicked in. God had already saved him, but he didn't do anything with that seriously until that moment in time hit when he had to take it seriously or else. And the "or else" scared him enough to do just that.

I think you just hit that "seriously or else" moment. I'm thrilled for you. It's a good moment, even if it's stuck right smack in the middle of "everything is going wrong."

Jonah had his moment too when he was swallowed by a large fish. I'm not sure at which moment in that large fish he decided it was "seriously or else," but he spent three days in 104 degree temperatures being marinaded in digestive juices of a fish, before who was vomited out to the very place God wanted him to be all along.

Expect that. Some good. Some bad. But all good, because God is setting things in motion to make sure you land right where he wanted you to be at that time all along. God will grace you to do what he would have you do.

So, congratulations! You've just realized you're saved. You intentionally signed up for life long "what in the world will happen next" knowing it can only work out according to three verses right before your favorite verse right now. (Hey! You like Romans 8:31? I'm more of an 8:28 kind of person, but it's all in the same thought line. lol)

I have to spread rep around

 

[Conversationand]

To those who went straight to the big picture, thank you. I feel really good. I have my sad moments but I feel good to be able to talk to God and know he's listening and I'm not just talking to myself. I know it's a lifestyle and nothing is fixed in a matter of days but I feel like I'm taking the right steps to walk in God's light.

I'm really glad your seeking God and I want to encourage you to continue that. But can I give you a warning from my own personal experience? The heart is deceitful and I have experienced false repentance in pursuit of my own goals. Will you still pursue Christ if your wife divorces you for good? I'm not saying this is you, but as men we like to "fix it." I've tried to use Christ as a solution to my problems, but when the problems did not resolve the way that I wanted them to my relationship with Christ was found to be empty. We should develop our relationships with Christ in such a way that if we experience loss we will still have Christ to lean on. Again, I'm not saying this is you, but were I in your position I would ask God to search my heart to know what the source of my repentance was. I'm not saying that your repentance is false, only God can see the heart, but I would counsel you to do the same. I'm a bit wary of "taking the right steps". This isn't about what you do, it's a matter chiefly of the heart.

 

[Desertsrose]

Hi RB,

Welcome to CC.....comments are in blue.

This is the best woman I've ever met and I did not treat her like so. My jealousy and anger ruined our relationship. She is faithful and is God fearing. Today I left. She left exactly a week ago today. Will not speak to me on the phone. Will barely respond to messages on social media (the only way I've been able to contact her).

she put God back in my life. She truly walks the walk. I was. It good to get. I thought that just because I provided for her, gave her lots of physical attention and didn't cheat that I was a great husband. I wasn't.

​I think it's great that you're being honest with yourself and not trying to cover yourself and make it her fault.

You're not a failure and much of what you lived as a husband toward's your wife is what a husband does. What you're missing in the relationship, only she can tell you. If I told you what I would like to see in my husband, it might not be what she wants or needs so she's the one who can tell you where the marriage is failing.

And I don't think anyone here can say that their marriage is a perfect one. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that we've all been angry with the other, shouted or raised our voice at the other and maybe said some unkind words. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying I think we can identify those heart issues in our own lives.

i was jealous and threatened her over the phone the day she left. Her mom doesn't want this for us because we are close too. Her mom said that my wife told her that she always feels like everything she does is wrong and nothing is ever good enough.

shes right. That's how I treated her. I never realized it until now. I've been reading some books. I'd like some recommendations for good books that might help.

I think that these words show that you went beyond what's normal in the dealings of the heart. If there's no reason for you to be jealous of her and you were, that's going to be the root of your problem. The jealousy turned into anger and the anger turned into threats.

Again, it's good to hear your honesty. I believe that right now you should put the books aside and begin to read your bible. Devour it! Everything we need for life and Godliness is found in God's word. If you are reading counseling books, I would recommend that you don't read secular counseling because they won't bring God into the counseling and He's what you need the most. He's the one that can change your heart. He's the one that speaks words of life that transform us from what we were to be like Him.

Any advice? Right now I'm leacing because I feel she needs her space. I keep begging but I stopped that too. I pray she has forgiveness once she leaves her friends and goes home. I pray that she can see that I see where I was wrong and can be good to and for her. I never want to feel this way again. I don't want to lose my wife. She's perfect. Can I get some ways to "win her back". Without showing up at the house begging. I want to respect her space and I know ultimately she will have to make her decision on her own. But is there ANYTHING I can do at this point?

What she needs to see is a transformed life. A life that looks to God and His word. One who takes God seriously and lives for Him first and foremost. And as your character is transformed into God's likeness, she will see the light of God shinning through you and that will bring her some hope that you're serious about changing.

Have you two ever prayed together? Read the word together? Studied the bible together? Do you belong to a church? If so, I would seek counseling from the pastor or an elder. If they have a midweek bible study or care group/home group, make it a point to go. Also, a woman looks to her husband to lead the family, to lead spiritually. It's great that she has led you to the Lord and spiritual things, but its time for you to take the wheel, learn all you can from God's word and allow yourself to grow. Be that spiritual sacrifice that's pleasing to God. Romans 12:1, 2
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
~

So bring God into every aspect of your marriage. Gain His wisdom and allow Him to change your heart from jealousy, anger and threats to love, kindness, and gentleness.

Galatians 5:19-26 shows the deeds of the flesh in contrast to the fruit of the Spirit.
Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

I'll pray for you and your wife to reconcile. It will take some time and patience. Lots of love and a genuine heart which sounds like maybe you have. You say you want to change. Good for you. Allow the Lord to lead you and guide you as you learn to put off the fleshly deeds and being to walk in the fruit of the Spirit. It's a process, but she'll begin to see growth in your life as you walk the Way, the Truth and the Life which is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior.

By the way, you said your wife is teaching you and you were once Catholic. Have you been born again?

 

[RBW8]

I'm really glad your seeking God and I want to encourage you to continue that. But can I give you a warning from my own personal experience? The heart is deceitful and I have experienced false repentance in pursuit of my own goals. Will you still pursue Christ if your wife divorces you for good? I'm not saying this is you, but as men we like to "fix it." I've tried to use Christ as a solution to my problems, but when the problems did not resolve the way that I wanted them to my relationship with Christ was found to be empty. We should develop our relationships with Christ in such a way that if we experience loss we will still have Christ to lean on. Again, I'm not saying this is you, but were I in your position I would ask God to search my heart to know what the source of my repentance was. I'm not saying that your repentance is false, only God can see the heart, but I would counsel you to do the same. I'm a bit wary of "taking the right steps". This isn't about what you do, it's a matter chiefly of the heart.

Absolutely not. I'm sticking with it. It's giving me peace. Now, I'm not giving up on our marriage, but I'm starting to come to terms with the possibility of her wanting to end it. I'm rearranging my schedule to make the time to move forward in my walk with Christ. I think it's the best thing for me and not to sound like I don't care, is the best thing with or without her. I look at the future as a single man of Christ and I like the possibilities. Just taking one step at a time to make it a reality.


I'm going to do some church hopping until I find my fit. may look into getting saved. As a catholic we have always been told we were saved at baptism. I debated that with her but I think this is what I need.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You have been deceived. We are NOT saved at birth, OR by baptism. We are saved by grace, faith, and belief in Jesus. Also, catholicism is NOT Christianity.. Good luck on getting saved but make sure it's in a Christian church, not a catholic one..

Absolutely not. I'm sticking with it. It's giving me peace. Now, I'm not giving up on our marriage, but I'm starting to come to terms with the possibility of her wanting to end it. I'm rearranging my schedule to make the time to move forward in my walk with Christ. I think it's the best thing for me and not to sound like I don't care, is the best thing with or without her. I look at the future as a single man of Christ and I like the possibilities. Just taking one step at a time to make it a reality.


I'm going to do some church hopping until I find my fit. may look into getting saved. As a catholic we have always been told we were saved at baptism. I debated that with her but I think this is what I need.

 

[RBW8]

You have been deceived. We are NOT saved at birth, OR by baptism. We are saved by grace, faith, and belief in Jesus. Also, catholicism is NOT Christianity.. Good luck on getting saved but make sure it's in a Christian church, not a catholic one..

How are Catholics not Christian?

 

[Miri]

Have a read of these verses, just being physically born and baptised as a baby,
doesnt mean you have been born again. Something else has to happen spiritually.

Nicodemus was a Pharisee, a very devout religious sect of the day yet. The Pharisees
had great pride in themselves for obeying all the commandments, doing all the
right things etc, yet he was not born again. I'm not saying this is correct in every case,
but many Catholics who carry out all the religious rules, attend mass, take communion,
use prayer beads and generally go along with all the religious trappings they are taught.
Could be construed as modern day Pharisees.

John 3:1-21 NLT
[1] There was a man named Nicodemus, a Jewish religious leader who was a Pharisee.
[2] After dark one evening, he came to speak with Jesus. "Rabbi," he said, "we all
know that God has sent you to teach us. Your miraculous signs are evidence that
God is with you."
[3] Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see
the Kingdom of God."
[4] "What do you mean?" exclaimed Nicodemus. "How can an old man go back
into his mother's womb and be born again?"
[5] Jesus replied, "I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without
being born of water and the Spirit.
[6] Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life.
[7] So don't be surprised when I say, 'You must be born again.'
[8] The wind blows wherever it wants. Just as you can hear the wind but can't tell where
it comes from or where it is going, so you can't explain how people are born of the Spirit."

[9] "How are these things possible?" Nicodemus asked.
[10] Jesus replied, "You are a respected Jewish teacher, and yet you don't understand
these things?
[11] I assure you, we tell you what we know and have seen, and yet you won't believe
our testimony.
[12] But if you don't believe me when I tell you about earthly things, how can you
possibly believe if I tell you about heavenly things?
[13] No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has
come down from heaven.

[14] And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so
the Son of Man must be lifted up,
[15] so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.
[16] "For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son,
so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
[17] God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the
world through him.

[18] "There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone
who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in
God's one and only Son.
19] And the judgment is based on this fact: God's light came into the world,
but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil.
[20] All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins
will be exposed. [21] But those who do what is right come to the light so others
can see that they are doing what God wants."


Next question you need to ask yourself, is what does it mean to believe in Jesus.
I will give you a hint, just believing in His existence isn't enough. You have to
understand who He is and what He has done for you. I think that is the next
step you have to consider. Many Catholics tend to believe in Jesus, but then falter
at the next step.

It's like believing Brussels sprout exist, realising they are green and good for you but
just looking at them on the plate because another person says they are good for you.
But then doing nothing about it yourself and never getting to the point where you try
them for yourself. That's what a lot of Catholics do, they look at Jesus because they are
told He is good and He is the Son of God, but they never get further than that. He never
becomes real to them.

Dont get stuck, get born again.

 

[WineRose]

How are Catholics not Christian?

Idk exactly why, but I heard from somewhere that they worship other humans too...I could be mistaken, though.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Catholics pray to Mary. They believe that SHE is their mediator to God. They use rosaries and say Hail Mary's. They bow down to statues. They believe that Mary was a virgin her entire life, despite the bible saying that she had other children after Jesus. They believe that she can hear and answer their prayers. Catholicism is a false religion.

Christians on the other hand, DO NOT do ANY of what I've mentioned above. We don't use rosaries, we don't say Hail Mary's, we believe JESUS is our ONLY mediator, we don't bow down to statues of Mary or the pope. We don't pray to Mary, nor believe that she died a virgin, because the bible states otherwise. We believe that Mary cannot hear nor answer prayer. Mary is dead, the dead know nothing, they hear nothing..

How are Catholics not Christian?

 

[Depleted]

How are Catholics not Christian?

Boy! Bad question to ask, particularly on this site. lol

I was born and raised Catholic. If you asked most people in my family "what religion are you," they'd all say, "Catholic." (I'm not. Tried to be for 4 years after being saved, but just couldn't.) And yet, these are my family's true beliefs:
-- Dad thinks if he goes to church on Sundays and tithes, God owes him an eternity of wandering around the universe to check out all the planets. He also thinks the OT is a collection of stories and nice sayings created to teach barbarians to act better. He doesn't just believe in evolution, he thinks Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, et. al. are fairy tales.

-- Oldest brother. Stopped believing in any god when we were teenagers and Mom died. A complete atheist, even when he left the Catholic Church to marry his first wife in the Lutheran Church. He's socially minded, so he became the head of a committee in that church to help people. But, when he cheated on his wife, the marriage fell apart because he married the woman. To marry her, he became a Catholic again. (She is Catholic too.) Now he believes in God strictly because he's getting older and doesn't want to go to hell.

-- Older Brother. Agnostic. He believes there is a god, but no one can say for sure who or what that is.

-- Younger brother. Catholic enough to get married in a Catholic Church, but outside of that, doesn't really bother with the whole God question.

-- Sister. Thinks God is the universe, has a crystal for every occasion, and thinks God owes her a husband and babies because she is "grateful."

-- Youngest brother. No idea, because he won't talk about God at all.

Enough ways to not think Catholicism goes hand-in-hand with Christianity?

I tried being Catholic after I was saved, because I was my younger brother's godmother, thus I promised to raise him as a good Catholic. (Notice, the promises made at an infant's baptism are to guarantee the child will be raised Catholic. Not so much the child will be raised believing in the God of the Bible, although trinity is included.) I was born again three months before Mom died, and she made me promise the same thing to her because she saw the hazards of being born again. I might not stay in the Catholic Church.

And I truly tried to keep that promise, but it seems God was pushing me out since that moment of salvation, until I could not keep that promise anymore. First, when a priest told us in CCD that transubstantiation was a myth. (It's ex cathedra! That means the Pope lied and wasn't speaking for God! ) Second, another priest and friend told me it didn't really matter what you believe, just as long as you stay a Catholic. (Check out my family. Kind of think it does matter what we believe.) Then the time I walked out, Dad even had to laugh at the priest for the sermon he gave that day. The title was "Mary, Queen of the Universe." And, yes, he really was saying Mary was more powerful than Jesus because she was his mother.

Can you be Catholic and a Christian? Yes! I was for four years. But can we assume all Catholics are Christians? Not even close!

The problem with the Catholic Church is they don't teach Christianity. They teach Catholicism, and poorly. Because the church doesn't bother even teaching the priests and nuns doctrine. Of course, they'd be hard pressed to do that too, since their doctrines keep changing. Doctrines are supposed to be based on the Bible, not what goes on in the minds of any given Pope.

You really can stay and be a Christian, but all you're going to hear is stuff that's pro RCC over God himself. Unless you learn what the Bible says and follow that God, you'll end up being another Catholic who is in this for the eternal vacation plan. And that will be a rude awakening.

 

[RBW8]

Boy! Bad question to ask, particularly on this site. lol

I was born and raised Catholic. If you asked most people in my family "what religion are you," they'd all say, "Catholic." (I'm not. Tried to be for 4 years after being saved, but just couldn't.) And yet, these are my family's true beliefs:
-- Dad thinks if he goes to church on Sundays and tithes, God owes him an eternity of wandering around the universe to check out all the planets. He also thinks the OT is a collection of stories and nice sayings created to teach barbarians to act better. He doesn't just believe in evolution, he thinks Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, et. al. are fairy tales.

-- Oldest brother. Stopped believing in any god when we were teenagers and Mom died. A complete atheist, even when he left the Catholic Church to marry his first wife in the Lutheran Church. He's socially minded, so he became the head of a committee in that church to help people. But, when he cheated on his wife, the marriage fell apart because he married the woman. To marry her, he became a Catholic again. (She is Catholic too.) Now he believes in God strictly because he's getting older and doesn't want to go to hell.

-- Older Brother. Agnostic. He believes there is a god, but no one can say for sure who or what that is.

-- Younger brother. Catholic enough to get married in a Catholic Church, but outside of that, doesn't really bother with the whole God question.

-- Sister. Thinks God is the universe, has a crystal for every occasion, and thinks God owes her a husband and babies because she is "grateful."

-- Youngest brother. No idea, because he won't talk about God at all.

Enough ways to not think Catholicism goes hand-in-hand with Christianity?

I tried being Catholic after I was saved, because I was my younger brother's godmother, thus I promised to raise him as a good Catholic. (Notice, the promises made at an infant's baptism are to guarantee the child will be raised Catholic. Not so much the child will be raised believing in the God of the Bible, although trinity is included.) I was born again three months before Mom died, and she made me promise the same thing to her because she saw the hazards of being born again. I might not stay in the Catholic Church.

And I truly tried to keep that promise, but it seems God was pushing me out since that moment of salvation, until I could not keep that promise anymore. First, when a priest told us in CCD that transubstantiation was a myth. (It's ex cathedra! That means the Pope lied and wasn't speaking for God! ) Second, another priest and friend told me it didn't really matter what you believe, just as long as you stay a Catholic. (Check out my family. Kind of think it does matter what we believe.) Then the time I walked out, Dad even had to laugh at the priest for the sermon he gave that day. The title was "Mary, Queen of the Universe." And, yes, he really was saying Mary was more powerful than Jesus because she was his mother.

Can you be Catholic and a Christian? Yes! I was for four years. But can we assume all Catholics are Christians? Not even close!

The problem with the Catholic Church is they don't teach Christianity. They teach Catholicism, and poorly. Because the church doesn't bother even teaching the priests and nuns doctrine. Of course, they'd be hard pressed to do that too, since their doctrines keep changing. Doctrines are supposed to be based on the Bible, not what goes on in the minds of any given Pope.

You really can stay and be a Christian, but all you're going to hear is stuff that's pro RCC over God himself. Unless you learn what the Bible says and follow that God, you'll end up being another Catholic who is in this for the eternal vacation plan. And that will be a rude awakening.

The history of Catholicism is what turned me off of them a bit. Their corruption mainly.

My grandmother is what people would call "the perfect catholic". Always obeys God's words. Surely she is a sinner but at heart, not action. Never sipped wine outside of communion. I've never seen her angry. Goes to church on Sundays and wednesdays. Just a model person.

I can get behind what you're saying, though. Maybe she's just a good Christian woman who is also a good catholic.

my wife would always say Catholics are too ritual driven and not relationship driven.

 

[Jeshuvan]

hope to see u in the rooms,if u see me pm me,i will give u some great marital councel,for now pray for her,see her as Gods child first then your wife.your war is not with her but satan jesh

 

[NoNameMcgee]

How are Catholics not Christian?

most people would say because the pope spreads false doctrine and is in himself "anti christ" not THE antichrist


also if you pray to people ... like saints
youre going against what Gods word teaches...

purgatory is false...

lol i can keep going

 

[blue_ladybug]

And some catholics believe that taking communion, the bread wafer and grape juice, they believe it actually turns into Jesus' flesh and blood. It doesn't, it's just a bit of bread and some grape juice..

 

[imfinallyfree]

Just like any other creature of ....

 

[imfinallyfree]

Talk her into becoming a paster