Who is the shepherd of God's people

[OneFaith]

When Jesus asked Peter three times if he loved Him, after Peter answered, Jesus said "Feed My sheep." The church are His sheep, they hear His voice, and follow Him. Jesus is our one and only Shepherd. He appointed pastors (elders- not ministers) over each flock (congregation- Christ has only one church), as overseers (assistants). They are to see to it that the flock is following Christ's doctrine (the New Testament).

But only Christ is the head (Authority) of His body (the church). He never appointed a man to oversee all of His congregations. For "He is the head of the body- the firstborn from the dead (who would never die again) so that in everything He would have the supremacy." He does not share His supremacy with cardinals and popes. There is no ladder of promotion to climb in Christ's genuine church.

Even the elders (pastors) of a local congregation have no authority of their own. They are there to make sure that congregation stays on track obeying Christ. They are not our Shepherd because the doctrine does not come from them- it comes from Christ. Some might say it comes from the apostles then- this is not true either. Christ told them to teach us what He commanded them to. So they wrote it down, and taught us what Christ commanded them to- therefore the doctrine comes from our Shepherd Christ, through the apostles- not from the apostles.

They might have wrote down "If your enemy is hungry feed him." But the order comes from Christ Himself. Therefore the New Testament laws are the doctrine of Christ. When Christ said "Feed My sheep." He didn't mean "Teach them whatever good advice comes into your head." He meant "Teach them My laws." He is our Shepherd. We are His sheep. And we are to be fed His Word- this is the voice we are to follow- not man-made laws/doctrines/practices.

"Some have left the Faith to follow deceiving spirits- whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry, and to abstain from certain foods." Sound familiar? Catholics maybe?

Christ said "They like to wear their tassels long, and to sit in the most important seats at events." Christ commanded "Call no one on earth father- for you have one father and He's in heaven. I was told this is not so because of father Abraham. It is so, but before I tell you how, shame on anyone who tells Christ that what He says is not so!

King David was the father of Christ- but not directly- he was Christ's great, great, great, etc grand-father. In the same way, not everyone who can legitimately say that "Abraham is our father" was born directly from Abraham's' body (which would include Gentiles).

Therefore, to say that Abraham is your father, is the same as to say that all the forefathers are your father- David, Isaac, Jacob, Seth, Adam. But there is only one father all the forefathers can be traced back to. If you look at the geneology of Christ, it says "And Seth the son of Adam, and Adam the son of God."

Therefore, if you were born from Cain, or even Abel, but not of Seth, God is not your father- which means the above forefathers and not your father either. In the New Testament it no longer mattered to be physically from Abraham, because through adoption, "Whosoever will" became legitimate children of Abraham- and therefore legitimate children of God (spiritual).

THEREFORE- (since this is not spiritually speaking), anyone who does not legitimately have Abraham as their father (such as the pope or catholic priests) are not to be called 'father' because God is not their father. For in order to be of the seedline, you have to follow the doctrine of Christ (Who came from Abraham and from God)- and Catholics do not. They have made up their own doctrine- which is constantly changing, even up to the present day.

God has said to some "You are of your father Satan- for Satan has been lying since the beginning." Satan didn't have physical children- therefore this shows that a father is a way, a doctrine, a practice. And no Catholic priest who goes against God by saying such things as "Pray through Mary, don't eat meat the Friday before the earthly Easter, don't marry, etc, will never be called 'father' by me!

For I have one Father Who is in heaven, and I have one Shepherd (Teacher) Who is Christ my Lord.

Im sorry for all the typos- for example 'now' came out as 'not'- which changes the meaning.

 

[S-word]

Hum I was struck by something in your reply here to brother SovereignGrace . Why is it you posted 4 of the more controversial denominations in Christianity? Out of more than 400 different ones you chose these four that have inflamed so many Christian forums across the net . First blush it looks like you are trying to cause strife .
Blessings
Bill

Oh, I could have added more, like the Christadelphians and some of the charismatic mobs, the SDA, the Baptists, etc.

But why bother? Those who love to argue just for arguments sake, who have nothing of any substance to add to the conversation, and are merely trolls who roam the forums interjecting with their nonsense, would then say; "Why have you only posted X amount of the 400 different denominations, etc."

 

[PeterJens]

But I believe that Luke had been taught from the Septuagint, which was a Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament, by Hebrews in Alexandria some 200 years before Jesus, where we read in Genesis 11: 12; And Arpachshad lived 135 years [ Not 35 years as your corrupted cannon states] and begat Cainan/Kainam.

Let us get things into proportion.
Numbers are an exact value. They either add up or they do not. One error in copying
and it shows. So numbers tend to indicate the accuracy of copying over centuries.

The core content of scripture is the nature of God and how He deals with man. This is
spread over thousands of years and many people.

Out of this a picture emerges which is the treasure of scripture. And it is very consistent,
and complex, an interplay of emotion, intention, action, truth and evil.

The breadth of interpretation is represented by the different denominations and groups holding
scripture as its source.

You argument for the veracity of scripture etc. is pedantic and does not address the real
similarities from which all the different interpretations are taken. So though interesting as
minor observations are actually irrelevant to the run of history.

 

[S-word]

Let us get things into proportion.
Numbers are an exact value. They either add up or they do not. One error in copying
and it shows. So numbers tend to indicate the accuracy of copying over centuries.

The core content of scripture is the nature of God and how He deals with man. This is
spread over thousands of years and many people.

Out of this a picture emerges which is the treasure of scripture. And it is very consistent,
and complex, an interplay of emotion, intention, action, truth and evil.

The breadth of interpretation is represented by the different denominations and groups holding
scripture as its source.

You argument for the veracity of scripture etc. is pedantic and does not address the real
similarities from which all the different interpretations are taken. So though interesting as
minor observations are actually irrelevant to the run of history.

I said to them, “If it is good in your sight, give me my wages; but if not, never mind!” So they weighed out thirty shekels of silver as my wages. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Then the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter, that magnificent price at which I was valued by them.”

So I took the thirty shekels of silver and threw them to the potter in the house of the Lord. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Then I cut in pieces my second staff Union, to break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
[SUP]
15 [/SUP]The Lord said to me, “Take again for yourself the equipment of a foolish shepherd. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For behold, I am going to raise up a shepherd in the land who will not care for the perishing, seek the scattered, heal the broken, or sustain the one
standing, but will devour the flesh of the fat sheep and tear off their hoofs.
[SUP]
17 [/SUP]“Woe to the worthless shepherd
Who leaves the flock!
A sword will be on his arm
And on his right eye!
His arm will be totally withered
And his right eye will be blind.”

So who do you think is the worthless shepherd that the Lord, who filled his obedient servant 'Jesus; with his spirit, raised up in the land after he had been paid his majestic wage of thirty pieces of silver, by the Jews?

Which religious organisation has succeeded the Jewish church, and whose head claims to be the earthly representation of Jesus, the heavenly shepherd of Gods people?

O you shepherd of God's people who claim God sent you out
And even though we know that's true that fact I wouldn't flout
For God commanded Zechariah, "Throw my wages cross the floor
Those thirty bits of silver, for I'll guide this flock no more
A useless shepherd now I'll raise to guide this stubborn flock
And he will be a worthless one, of him I'll take no stock
For he'll not feed my little ones nor search for them that's lost
But he eats the meat of the fattest sheep and their Hoofs? He tears them off
That worthless shepherd, he is doomed for abandoning my flock
His power will I destroy by war, his arm will wither dry then drop
And his right eye will I turn blind, that's why he's never seen
The passage where I speak of him, Zechariah, eleven: twelve to seventeen.........
S-word.

 

[tanakh]

If you define a Christian as one who believes that the canon of the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, is the infallible word of the Lord, then I am definitely not a Christian, but I believe every word that came from the Lord and not the corrupted and limited amount of holy scriptures compiled as the canon of the Roman church of Emperor Constantine that was established in the 4th century.

I suspect that you even believe the words of Helena the mother of Constantine, who instilled in the Roman church the belief that the wise men, travelled to Bethlehem of Judah and paid homage to the baby Jesus in the Manger.

Although I have been condemned as a liar and a heretic by members of this forum, you will not find that I have made any offensive remark to any in response to their attacks on myself. I simply proclaim the truth as I see it.

BTW, here below, is what S-word means.

Elijah, who was carried up to stand by Enoch’s side
Stood by the brook at Kishon where the priests of Baal all died
It was He, who gave the order and the waters all ran red
As fifty and eight hundred more, false prophets all fell dead.
Will you fight the war ‘gainst ignorance, the war that will be won
By those who wield the S-word of God, the sharp two edge-ed tongue

In other forums my user name is; "The Tongue."

Actually the Canon of the RC and Orthodox Churches is not the same as that used by Protestants. It has additional books which were included in the Greek translation of the Bible about 200 years before Christ and was used by the early church.
The Protestant /Evangelical Churches use the Hebrew version of the Bible and have done so since the Reformation.

 

[miknik5]

miknik wrote.............Im not interested in religious organizations sir and you shouldn't spend too much time on watching men either.

S-word.........You must feel free to accept that which is of interest to you and reject that which does not. But please don't advise others as to what they should be interested in.

miknik wrote............there is only ONE whom all men should keep their eyes on. And HE alone is THE SHEPHERD over HIS FATHER's flock.

S-word.......I agree. But He is not the worthless shepherd that the Lord said that he would raise up in the land, to guide his stubborn flock after he had been paid his majestic wage of thirty pieces of silver, is He?.

Do you believe that the Lord does that which he says he will do? Or do you think his words are empty falsehoods?

miknik wrote............If you watch men you will make the same error that all will make who spend too much time looking at men (All the while thinking themselves in service to GOD...."righting a wrong" they have no right to)

S-word..........Well you must do what you want to do my dear friend, but as to myself, I will continue to watch and see the results of the Lords words as spoken through his prophets, come to fruition.

miknik wrote..........why not fast forward to Zechariah 13 and explain the people's wounds.

S-word.........Why not? But that will be covered in my next thread.

The worthless shepherds are men who spent too much time looking at other men and in all other emotions outside of LOVE they "went out" led by their own unrighteousness spirit

and not by CHRIST's

 

[posthuman]

The worthless shepherds are men who spent too much time looking at other men and in all other emotions outside of LOVE they "went out" led by their own unrighteousness spirit

and not by CHRIST's

In type, but just as Jesus Christ is THE SHEPHERD, THE GOOD ONE the antichrist is THE worthless shepherd

 

[posthuman]

In type, but just as Jesus Christ is THE SHEPHERD, THE GOOD ONE the antichrist is THE worthless shepherd

This also is a proof that Christ is God - because Pslam 23 ((for example)) identifies Yah as The Shepherd, which Jesus also declared Himself to be.

Ppl will argue, i know, but the Jews knew exactly what He implied with statements like this.

 

[miknik5]

I said to them, “If it is good in your sight, give me my wages; but if not, never mind!” So they weighed out thirty shekels of silver as my wages. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Then the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter, that magnificent price at which I was valued by them.”

So I took the thirty shekels of silver and threw them to the potter in the house of the Lord. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Then I cut in pieces my second staff Union, to break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
[SUP]
15 [/SUP]The Lord said to me, “Take again for yourself the equipment of a foolish shepherd. [SUP]16 [/SUP]For behold, I am going to raise up a shepherd in the land who will not care for the perishing, seek the scattered, heal the broken, or sustain the one
standing, but will devour the flesh of the fat sheep and tear off their hoofs.
[SUP]
17 [/SUP]“Woe to the worthless shepherd
Who leaves the flock!
A sword will be on his arm
And on his right eye!
His arm will be totally withered
And his right eye will be blind.”

So who do you think is the worthless shepherd that the Lord, who filled his obedient servant 'Jesus; with his spirit, raised up in the land after he had been paid his majestic wage of thirty pieces of silver, by the Jews?

Which religious organisation has succeeded the Jewish church, and whose head claims to be the earthly representation of Jesus, the heavenly shepherd of Gods people?

O you shepherd of God's people who claim God sent you out
And even though we know that's true that fact I wouldn't flout
For God commanded Zechariah, "Throw my wages cross the floor
Those thirty bits of silver, for I'll guide this flock no more
A useless shepherd now I'll raise to guide this stubborn flock
And he will be a worthless one, of him I'll take no stock
For he'll not feed my little ones nor search for them that's lost
But he eats the meat of the fattest sheep and their Hoofs? He tears them off
That worthless shepherd, he is doomed for abandoning my flock
His power will I destroy by war, his arm will wither dry then drop
And his right eye will I turn blind, that's why he's never seen
The passage where I speak of him, Zechariah, eleven: twelve to seventeen.........
S-word.

Remember also that we aren't to break faith with one another...and you seem angered by organizations.

Pray and do not think to "correct" them with violence because you will find yourself to be just another "worthless shepherd" yourself and will find yourself examining your wounds or being the one who caused those wounds to your friends as mentioned in Zechariah 13

 

[S-word]

Remember also that we aren't to break faith with one another...and you seem angered by organizations.

Pray and do not think to "correct" them with violence because you will find yourself to be just another "worthless shepherd" yourself and will find yourself examining your wounds or being the one who caused those wounds to your friends as mentioned in Zechariah 13

I do not think to correct them with violence.

My war is against ignorance, and the weapon I use is the sharp two edge-ed tongue, which is the Sword of God. I follow the example of Jesus, who called the authorities of the greatest religious body of his world, Sons of Satan, serpents and vipers.


The greatest religious organisation of those who would follow the WORD OF GOD, is not the bride of Christ, but the bride of the Anti-Christ, and her daughters are those bodies who were spawned by her lying spirit, before breaking away from their mother body in order to establish families of their own.


Revelation 18: 4.


Come out of her my people do not share in her sin
You must not share her punishment for her judgement day has come
Her sins are piled to heaven and God recalls her evil ways
She says "I am no widow and I'll never see the grave"
Because of that, in just one day disease will strike her down
And plagues and famine she'll receive til finally she'll be burned.
You must pay her back two-fold for all that she has done
Fill her cup as she filled yours, but make it twice as strong
For all the glory she has claimed and all her luxury
Must be repaid this very day with pain and misery.

 

[posthuman]

My war is against ignorance, and the weapon I use is the sharp two edge-ed tongue, which is the Sword of God.

you don't think you might be twisting up & abusing that reference to Ephesians there, buddy?

the tongue is never called 'the sword of God' -- the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, but is your tongue the Word of God?

srsly, "a sharp tongue" -- is that how Ephesians 6:17 reads in your *uncorrupted* version?

 

[posthuman]

perhaps more appropriate:

The words of the reckless pierce like swords,
but the tongue of the wise brings healing.
Truthful lips endure forever,
but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.
(Proverbs 12:18-19)


​

 

[S-word]

you don't think you might be twisting up & abusing that reference to Ephesians there, buddy?

the tongue is never called 'the sword of God' -- the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, but is your tongue the Word of God?

srsly, "a sharp tongue" -- is that how Ephesians 6:17 reads in your *uncorrupted* version?

posthuman wrote..........you don't think you might be twisting up & abusing that reference to Ephesians there, buddy?

S-word.........Nope! I make no reference to Ephesians.

posthuman wrote..........the tongue is never called 'the sword of God'

S-word...........Only those who have never read my posts would ever say that the tongue is never called the Sword of God.

posthuman wrote........the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, but is your tongue the Word of God?

S-word...........The Sword is the WORD OF GOD that flows from the sharp two edge-ed tongue, which is able to divide the lies from the truths as revealed in the WORD OF GOD, which lies are the filthy yeast added to God's Word by the worthless shepherd, the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, which was founded in the 4th century, some three hundred years after Jesus had established his apostolic church in Jerusalem.

Added lies such as (AS WAS SUPPOSED) in Luke 3: 23; and Luke 3: 22; where the Spirit came down upon Jesus as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my son, THIS DAY I have begotten thee." Which was changed to, 'You are my son in whom I am pleased,' in order to make it appear that Jesus was born the son of God, through his physical birth.

Knowing and admitting that Isaiah never did say that a virgin would bear a son, they still say in Matthew 1: 22; Now all this happened to make come true what the Lord had said through his prophet [Isaiah] "The 'VIRGIN' will become pregnant etc."

Did the people of his day believe that he was born of some supposedly ever virgin, who herself was born through some immaculate conception? I think not.

John the Baptist who was the cousin of Mary, (Their mothers, Elizabeth and Hanna, being sisters, who were both sired by Yehoshua/Jesus III, who was the high priest in Jerusalem from 36 BC to 23 BC.) Do you honestly believe that if John had believed that Jesus was born of some supposed virgin conception, that he would have doubted for one moment that he was the chosen one? But he did, he sent his disciples to ask Jesus if he was truly the expected one or if they had to wait for another.

If Jesus had been born of a virgin conception, this would have been the greatest of all miracles and would have been shouted from the roof tops by his followers, but what do we see in the scriptures?

Matthew tells us that the birth of Jesus, ( who would be filled with the spirit of the Lord, who would then reveal himself to the world through his obedient earthly host body.)
happened, in order to make come true what the Lord had said through his prophet, an ALMAH, a young unmarried female who is pregnant will bear a son, who would be called Emmanuel [God is with us.]

Luke reveals, once we take away the added yeast (AS WAS SUPPOSED) that was added by the Roman church, that Jesus the son of Mary, was born physically being sired by Joseph the son of Alexander Helios/Heli.

Mark, who is believed to have been the son of Peter and John the beloved disciple of Jesus, both ignore the physical birth of Jesus as being totally irrelevant and begin their account of the salvation of the body of man, with his baptism, when he was chosen as the son, heir and successor of our Lord, when the spirit of the Lord descended upon him in the form of a dove as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my son, THIS DAY I have begotten thee."

Isaiah 42: 1; The Lord says, "Here is my servant, whom I strengthen---The one I have CHOSEN with whom I am pleased. I have filled him with my spirit, and he will bring justice to every nation, etc.

Does this sound like the authors of the gospel believed the great lie that was introduced by the worthless shepherd?

posthuman wrote...........srsly, "a sharp tongue" -- is that how Ephesians 6:17 reads in your *uncorrupted* version?

S-word.........And the S-word of God is the sharp two edge-ed tongue that divides the lies from the truth. Separates the yeast that has been added to the Manna that come down to us, by the priests, whose head, is the worthless shepherd that God raised up in the world after he had received his majestic wage of thirty pieces of silver.

Acts 3: 13; The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors, has given divine glory to his servant Jesus.

 

[graceNpeace]

posthuman wrote..........you don't think you might be twisting up & abusing that reference to Ephesians there, buddy?

S-word.........Nope! I make no reference to Ephesians.

posthuman wrote..........the tongue is never called 'the sword of God'

S-word...........Only those who have never read my posts would ever say that the tongue is never called the Sword of God.

posthuman wrote........the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God, but is your tongue the Word of God?

S-word...........The Sword is the WORD OF GOD that flows from the sharp two edge-ed tongue, which is able to divide the lies from the truths as revealed in the WORD OF GOD, which lies are the filthy yeast added to God's Word by the worthless shepherd, the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, which was founded in the 4th century, some three hundred years after Jesus had established his apostolic church in Jerusalem.

Added lies such as (AS WAS SUPPOSED) in Luke 3: 23; and Luke 3: 22; where the Spirit came down upon Jesus as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my son, THIS DAY I have begotten thee." Which was changed to, 'You are my son in whom I am pleased,' in order to make it appear that Jesus was born the son of God, through his physical birth.

Knowing and admitting that Isaiah never did say that a virgin would bear a son, they still say in Matthew 1: 22; Now all this happened to make come true what the Lord had said through his prophet [Isaiah] "The 'VIRGIN' will become pregnant etc."

Did the people of his day believe that he was born of some supposedly ever virgin, who herself was born through some immaculate conception? I think not.

John the Baptist who was the cousin of Mary, (Their mothers, Elizabeth and Hanna, being sisters, who were both sired by Yehoshua/Jesus III, who was the high priest in Jerusalem from 36 BC to 23 BC.) Do you honestly believe that if John had believed that Jesus was born of some supposed virgin conception, that he would have doubted for one moment that he was the chosen one? But he did, he sent his disciples to ask Jesus if he was truly the expected one or if they had to wait for another.

If Jesus had been born of a virgin conception, this would have been the greatest of all miracles and would have been shouted from the roof tops by his followers, but what do we see in the scriptures?

Matthew tells us that the birth of Jesus, ( who would be filled with the spirit of the Lord, who would then reveal himself to the world through his obedient earthly host body.)
happened, in order to make come true what the Lord had said through his prophet, an ALMAH, a young unmarried female who is pregnant will bear a son, who would be called Emmanuel [God is with us.]

Luke reveals, once we take away the added yeast (AS WAS SUPPOSED) that was added by the Roman church, that Jesus the son of Mary, was born physically being sired by Joseph the son of Alexander Helios/Heli.

Mark, who is believed to have been the son of Peter and John the beloved disciple of Jesus, both ignore the physical birth of Jesus as being totally irrelevant and begin their account of the salvation of the body of man, with his baptism, when he was chosen as the son, heir and successor of our Lord, when the spirit of the Lord descended upon him in the form of a dove as the heavenly voice was heard to say, "You are my son, THIS DAY I have begotten thee."

Isaiah 42: 1; The Lord says, "Here is my servant, whom I strengthen---The one I have CHOSEN with whom I am pleased. I have filled him with my spirit, and he will bring justice to every nation, etc.

Does this sound like the authors of the gospel believed the great lie that was introduced by the worthless shepherd?

posthuman wrote...........srsly, "a sharp tongue" -- is that how Ephesians 6:17 reads in your *uncorrupted* version?

S-word.........And the S-word of God is the sharp two edge-ed tongue that divides the lies from the truth. Separates the yeast that has been added to the Manna that come down to us, by the priests, whose head, is the worthless shepherd that God raised up in the world after he had received his majestic wage of thirty pieces of silver.

Acts 3: 13; The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors, has given divine glory to his servant Jesus.

Nice pseudo-history - you and Dan Brown should get together!

 

[posthuman]

.......And the S-word of God is the sharp two edge-ed tongue that divides the lies from the truth.

. . . in the thoughts and intentions of the heart, separating joints and marrow, and soul from spirit ((re: Hebrews 4:12)) -

- not in the carving up of the sure word of prophecy, denying which bits you detest and interjecting extra bits you have your own tastes for.

which Word of God declares Christ wasn't born of a virgin? isn't that a different instrument?

 

[S-word]

. . . in the thoughts and intentions of the heart, separating joints and marrow, and soul from spirit ((re: Hebrews 4:12)) -

- not in the carving up of the sure word of prophecy, denying which bits you detest and interjecting extra bits you have your own tastes for.

which Word of God declares Christ wasn't born of a virgin? isn't that a different instrument?



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“YOU” the mind, are spirit. The body in which you, [The mind] are developing as the supreme head and controller of that body, is made up of the universal elements, which is activated by the soul [Animating life force] to which all the spirit [gathered information] of all your ancestors, human and prehuman, has been gathered in its evolution to become who you are, and that parental spirit dwells behind the veil of the flesh to the inner most sanctuary of its earthly tabernacle=tent, which is your body.

If that body in which your parental spirit dwells, were born without the sense of sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch, etc, then no information whatsoever could be taken into the brain, and “YOU” who are spirit [Gathered information] could never have begun to develop and the living body, in which the parental spirit dwells, would soon die, never having developed a personality = “CONTROLLING GODHEAD” to that body, which godhead should be an obedient servant to “WHO YOU ARE.”

Then of the Thee in Me who works behind
The veil, I lifted up my hands to find
A lamp amid the Darkness; and I heard,
As from Without__ “The Me within Thee is blind.”.... By Omar Khayyam.
,
When the body in which you [the mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body: “skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter etc, etc,” has returned to the universal elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather, a facsimile of YOU = the mind=spirit, that has been imprinted into the universal life force=soul, from which it will be resurrected in the next cycle of universal activity. Unless of course, the information=spirit that is “YOU” is divided from the universal life-force, which is the second death. For the spirit=information that is you, can be divided from the universal soul. Hebrews 4: 12.---------“For the word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. It cuts all the way through to the division of the soul and spirit.”

Which word of God declares that Jesus the obedient servant of the Lord was born of a virgin?

 

[miknik5]

“YOU” the mind, are spirit. The body in which you, [The mind] are developing as the supreme head and controller of that body, is made up of the universal elements, which is activated by the soul [Animating life force] to which all the spirit [gathered information] of all your ancestors, human and prehuman, has been gathered in its evolution to become who you are, and that parental spirit dwells behind the veil of the flesh to the inner most sanctuary of its earthly tabernacle=tent, which is your body.

If that body in which your parental spirit dwells, were born without the sense of sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch, etc, then no information whatsoever could be taken into the brain, and “YOU” who are spirit [Gathered information] could never have begun to develop and the living body, in which the parental spirit dwells, would soon die, never having developed a personality = “CONTROLLING GODHEAD” to that body, which godhead should be an obedient servant to “WHO YOU ARE.”

Then of the Thee in Me who works behind
The veil, I lifted up my hands to find
A lamp amid the Darkness; and I heard,
As from Without__ “The Me within Thee is blind.”.... By Omar Khayyam.
,
When the body in which you [the mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body: “skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter etc, etc,” has returned to the universal elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather, a facsimile of YOU = the mind=spirit, that has been imprinted into the universal life force=soul, from which it will be resurrected in the next cycle of universal activity. Unless of course, the information=spirit that is “YOU” is divided from the universal life-force, which is the second death. For the spirit=information that is you, can be divided from the universal soul. Hebrews 4: 12.---------“For the word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. It cuts all the way through to the division of the soul and spirit.”

Which word of God declares that Jesus the obedient servant of the Lord was born of a virgin?

Don't let your conscience become seared

if you were truly awake you would have felt the double-edged sword convicting you of your contradiction of the WORD/VOICE/SPIRIT of GOD

 

[miknik5]

"YOU" have your own mind that's for sure

But it isn't the mind of Christ

 

[miknik5]

Which word of God declares that Jesus the obedient servant of the Lord was born of a virgin?

Theres only ONE SPIRIT of TRUTH

 

[posthuman]

was born of a virgin?

which Hebrew father of an unmarried, young almah could you walk up to and imply she wasn't a virgin, without getting yourself slugged in the nose?

do you know much about the continuity of germplasm, btw?