Earth is Flat and Stationary

[Huckleberry]

And here is the first American "space walk" also in 65', look how fast the earth is rotating! Among other red flags.

I can't believe I'm wasting one second of my life "debating" any of this, but here goes.
During that space walk they were orbiting at 17,000 miles per hour, or faster!
That's the speed required to maintain orbit and stay up there.
At that speed they would orbit the planet many times a day,
and if one applies even the smallest amount of common sense,
it becomes obvious why the Earth looks like it's rotating that fast.
Imaging taking video of a train while driving the opposite direction in a car.
The train will appear to be moving much faster than it actually is.
It's hard for me to fathom that you flat-earthers are actually this stupid,
so I'm chalking it up to either drug-induced paranoid delusion,
or a "reverse conspiracy" of disinformation, the purpose of which I don't know.
Inclined towards the former.

 

[MattforJesus]

There is a man on youtube whose nickname is QuasiLuminous,and he is a flat earth believer,and this man is off the wall,which I know they all cannot believe like that for it is like something out of science fiction.

 

[pckts]

There is a man on youtube whose nickname is QuasiLuminous,and he is a flat earth believer,and this man is off the wall,which I know they all cannot believe like that for it is like something out of science fiction.

He is controlled opposition, and is working on you.

Controlled opposition is a good indicator of what is true, if the flat earth wasn't true or a threat they would not have to control the opposition. Hard to detect controlled opposition from the outside though.

 

[MattforJesus]

He is controlled opposition, and is working on you.

I don't follow the man,or believe what he says,but was looking for a video where a person runs a coin down a table to prove on a flat surface the coin is coming up over the horizon,to say,what kind of illustration is that for the sun is not going along the surface of the earth,and ran in to for it looked like it was about the occult,so I thought this is interesting,but I think the man is saying some crazy things that is like science fiction.

And he is not working on me for I do not care what he says or to check out any more of his videos.

 

[GaryA]

The * point * is * it * does * not * say * what * you * think * it * says...

Seems pretty straight-forward to me...

Genesis 1:

[SUP]17[/SUP] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, ...

[SUP]20[/SUP] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


God placed the sun and the moon in the 'firmament'.

God ordained that the birds would fly in the 'firmament'.

It is the same 'firmament' - the same 'space' - between the waters under and above that 'firmament'.

 

[breno785au]

That explanation is from the numerous videos of bubbles popping out of the objects in that giant pool of water.

Ok, I can't point them out to you because we aren't in "outer space" or the studio, so you are going to have to watch "youtube videos".

Bubbles and other things:
<span style="color:#ff0000;">[video=youtube;9X0HgFWsNlk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0HgFWsNlk[/video]

Strictly bubbles video -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ynHKGzplQ

And here is the first ever spacewalk in 1965 courtesy of Russia, compare this to what you are seeing now, at the very least you should think that one of them is fake -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAPBRvd8OTY

Well that's hardly evidence or displaying knowledge of anything. Anyone could've faked those bubble videos.

 

[pckts]

Well that's hardly evidence or displaying knowledge of anything. Anyone could've faked those bubble videos.

I'm glad you acknowledge those bubbles are incriminating. Now you are questioning wether or not these videos are authetic, which is understandable. I'll try to find more credible sources, but NASA removes these videos once they are discovered, so I'm not sure anything less than that will be satisfying. I'll try to find some tomorrow.

It's transparent information that NASA practices underwater on ISS mockups, that alone isn't enough, but it's a piece. Thank you for taking the time to examine the videos closely and being honest.

 

[pckts]

Well that's hardly evidence or displaying knowledge of anything. Anyone could've faked those bubble videos.

Here is a video of scuba divers accidentally displayed on screen assisting the astronauts during a space walk:

[video=youtube;rvo1svbyLbM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvo1svbyLbM[/video]

Astronaut accidentally calls the location he is at "the pool" in this one, and other bloopers like one kicking his legs to swim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHg-FL8F8NM

 

[Bladerunner]

Maybe you need to learn some physics!!!
You are a poor Bible scholar and and even worse physicist...

I claim to be neither....

 

[loveme1]

What makes flat earth crazy is they go against the world accepted explanation. They question intelligence of man and are ridiculed for it.

If we had been taught the earth was flat by the world through education and media we would ridicule those that claimed the earth was a sphere..

The earth is what it is and I think the movement is actually trying to teach the masses that those in power seek to deceive them.. because if the flat earth theory which is to say not a sphere but a plate with different altitudes etc... Is true, then why lie? And those answers would throw ones reality in to question....

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I sure hope everyone in here is already awake to this fact. ball earth is a lie from the evil powers that be the devil. as well as big bang and evolution. satan is the god of this world and the father of lies.

I almost NEVER comment before I read through a thread but I'm going to do it now, so if someone already posted the verses, forgive me.

He sits on His throne above the circle of the earth.
He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters.
(My paraphrase).

 

[Zen]

I almost NEVER comment before I read through a thread but I'm going to do it now, so if someone already posted the verses, forgive me.

He sits on His throne above the circle of the earth.
He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters.
(My paraphrase).

Why does science go against scripture?

 

[Zen]

 

[oldethennew]

I can't believe I'm wasting one second of my life "debating" any of this, but here goes.
During that space walk they were orbiting at 17,000 miles per hour, or faster!
That's the speed required to maintain orbit and stay up there.
At that speed they would orbit the planet many times a day,
and if one applies even the smallest amount of common sense,
it becomes obvious why the Earth looks like it's rotating that fast.
Imaging taking video of a train while driving the opposite direction in a car.
The train will appear to be moving much faster than it actually is.
It's hard for me to fathom that you flat-earthers are actually this stupid,
so I'm chalking it up to either drug-induced paranoid delusion,
or a "reverse conspiracy" of disinformation, the purpose of which I don't know.
Inclined towards the former.

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you are very intelligent H, this is very apparent, but just keep in mind, that there are
many things yet to be learned and accepted...

 

[breno785au]

Why does science go against scripture?

Maybe because your 2d drawing isn't science? Put the stars all around the earth and arrows pointing around the earth.. Stars falling.. But hey, that's if John's revelation was literal.

 

[Zen]

Maybe because your 2d drawing isn't science? Put the stars all around the earth and arrows pointing around the earth.. Stars falling.. But hey, that's if John's revelation was literal.

How does a burning ball of gas fall metaphorically?

Also look at the scripture in the picture, it's not from the book of revelation.

 

[oldethennew]

since I was a very young child, when I looked 'heaven-ward', I always saw a 'circle' in all
of the heavens,..
and this is certainly a reflection of our lives, no if's and's or buts...

 

[breno785au]

How does a burning ball of gas fall metaphorically?

Also look at the scripture in the picture, it's not from the book of revelation.

Your right about that one but the picture provided is not accurate by any means.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

since I was a very young child, when I looked 'heaven-ward', I always saw a 'circle' in all
of the heavens,..
and this is certainly a reflection of our lives, no if's and's or buts...

I think my sister saw that 'round earth and our lives' thing recently, but it happened one morning when she woke and was laying in bed watching the ceiling fan circle around and around! She tried to explain it to me with the better example of the earth being round but I couldn't grasp what she was saying. I've had those odd moments too though where it becomes crystal clear and you suddenly see something in creation that correlates with your life.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Your right about that one but the picture provided is not accurate by any means.

I think she picked the pictures more for the verses than that they accurately portray a model of the sun and earth and stars...
I agree with oldthenew that the other poster could have spoken more gently to a nonbeliever. A little bit of intellectual puff up occurred there. Knowledge puffs up but love builds up/edifies.

Zen, that's a most adorable little girl and kitten exchanging all that love in your avatar picture.

And I find it amazing when I see science sort of line up with scripture without intending to do anything of the sort! I remember when global warming started being screamed. I thought....well, yeah, one day the sun will burn men real bad so they have sores, so that would be major global warming!