Earth is Flat and Stationary

[dcontroversal]

World’s longest flight on biggest plane takes off

This airliner does it with only a 40 minute difference.

It's the wind. Globe earth says the wind is caused by the rotation, flat earth states the sun's heat and path over the earth creates the temperature changes and corresponding wind.

You believe it's the wind because of rotation west to east(and possibly sun temperature changes idk what you believe), Flat earth believes it's the wind because the sun creates temperature changes as it travels clockwise.

We both think it's the wind, we just have different explanations for the wind, and rotation isn't part of the flat earth explanation.

Yeah I don't necessarily think it is the wind......because the wind direction is different in Au than the U.S. and the distance and speed remain consistent....also....when over the Pacific and flying 41 to 42 thousand feet I have experienced very little turbulence from the wind and dare to say that on am A-380 Airbus that has a 100 yard wing span (4 ft short) and that weighs 500,000 pounds empty and carries 330,000 liters of fuel in the wings you cannot even tell you are flying unless standing up in the toilet going wee........so....if it was wind it would seem to me that the longest route would be filled with turbulence, shaking plane etc......yeah I made that flight 6 times round trip....the link you posted....love it....will also add the link is not accurate....takes 16 hours and 55 minute (17 hours going) and right at 15 coming back....

 

[trofimus]

Show me real pictures.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/5/12/3016254/russian-satellite-earth-from-space-121-megapixels

The best photos of Earth and the moon from space - Business Insider

LIVE STREAMING FROM INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION

 

[pckts]

Yeah I don't necessarily think it is the wind......because the wind direction is different in Au than the U.S. and the distance and speed remain consistent....also....when over the Pacific and flying 41 to 42 thousand feet I have experienced very little turbulence from the wind and dare to say that on am A-380 Airbus that has a 100 yard wing span (4 ft short) and that weighs 500,000 pounds empty and carries 330,000 liters of fuel in the wings you cannot even tell you are flying unless standing up in the toilet going wee........so....if it was wind it would seem to me that the longest route would be filled with turbulence, shaking plane etc......yeah I made that flight 6 times round trip....the link you posted....love it....

Well that's the flat earth theory explanation, and the globe earth explanation by those who do not believe rotation has anything to do with it. But it's definitely the flat earth explanation.

 

[Dino246]

Show me evidence and a specific location of these people seeing the sun rise south of them outside of the orange boundary.

You give general observer locations and a general location they see the sun without evidence and want an explanation for something you haven't proved.

You're dodging the question. If you had an explanation you would provide it. I don't think you have one, and that's why you're dodging.

 

[pckts]

You're dodging the question. If you had an explanation you would provide it. I don't think you have one, and that's why you're dodging.

Well I don't believe what your asking is logical, possible, or based in reality, so by asking you for more details I hope that you discover this. And if you provide me details that prove it is occuring, I will have to go back to the drawing board and figure this out.

As of now I do not believe what you are claiming occurs.

 

[Dino246]

Well I don't believe what your asking is logical, possible, or based in reality, so by asking you for more details I hope that you discover this. And if you provide me details that prove it is occuring, I will have to go back to the drawing board and figure this out.

As of now I do not believe what you are claiming occurs.

Here is a series of pictures of the Sydney Opera House which show what I'm talking about. In the first, you can clearly see the shadows to the south of the OH. It faces northward into the harbour. In the second, you see the sun rising behind the OH looking toward the southeast. Please don't try to dodge this by saying the angle of the second shot is uncertain; it isn't. The pic is clearly taken from northwest of the OH. The smaller structure demonstrates this.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@-33.8567743,151.2149969,220m/data=!3m1!1e3

http://www.paulreiffer.com/[email protected]

 

[pckts]

Here is a series of pictures of the Sydney Opera House which show what I'm talking about. In the first, you can clearly see the shadows to the south of the OH. It faces northward into the harbour. In the second, you see the sun rising behind the OH looking toward the southeast. Please don't try to dodge this by saying the angle of the second shot is uncertain; it isn't. The pic is clearly taken from northwest of the OH. The smaller structure demonstrates this.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@-33.8567743,151.2149969,220m/data=!3m1!1e3

http://www.paulreiffer.com/[email protected]

Well I have to dodge/ignore this because you have not provided me the time of year, the time of day, or any verifiable sources/evidence. Just two pictures, and the google earth one is using a globe map so I would have to do all the orienting on my own.

 

[dcontroversal]

Here is a series of pictures of the Sydney Opera House which show what I'm talking about. In the first, you can clearly see the shadows to the south of the OH. It faces northward into the harbour. In the second, you see the sun rising behind the OH looking toward the southeast. Please don't try to dodge this by saying the angle of the second shot is uncertain; it isn't. The pic is clearly taken from northwest of the OH. The smaller structure demonstrates this.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@-33.8567743,151.2149969,220m/data=!3m1!1e3

http://www.paulreiffer.com/[email protected]

About 5 weeks ago seen the Sydney Opera house lit up for vivid Sydney.....was cool......laser shows all over the buildings in both main harbors.....was a unique experience for an American.....HAHAH

 

[pckts]

Here is a series of pictures of the Sydney Opera House which show what I'm talking about. In the first, you can clearly see the shadows to the south of the OH. It faces northward into the harbour. In the second, you see the sun rising behind the OH looking toward the southeast. Please don't try to dodge this by saying the angle of the second shot is uncertain; it isn't. The pic is clearly taken from northwest of the OH. The smaller structure demonstrates this.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@-33.8567743,151.2149969,220m/data=!3m1!1e3

http://www.paulreiffer.com/[email protected]

and there doesn't seem to be a consensus of the sun's orbit anyway (that I'm aware of), so even if I completed this small science project for you it wouldn't mean anything.



You know the flat earth map and sun orbit concept, this is your explanation for how shadows and sunsets apply.

 

[Dino246]

and there doesn't seem to be a consensus of the sun's orbit anyway (that I'm aware of), so even if I completed this small science project for you it wouldn't mean anything.

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You know the flat earth map and sun orbit concept, this is your explanation for how shadows and sunsets apply.

A dodge if I ever saw one. Your response falls as flat as your hypothesis.

 

[pckts]

A dodge if I ever saw one. Your response falls as flat as your hypothesis.

You made a ridiculous, boring, and ultimately pointless demand. Without the time of year and day there is nothing I can do/prove! Do you realize this?!?!?!?!?

The orbit of the sun changes throughout the year and the time of day effects it's position, analyzing the shadow of an unknown time and date is pointless!

 

[posthuman]

and there doesn't seem to be a consensus of the sun's orbit anyway

If you mean there is no consensus among flatheads well yeah, that's because their model is absolutely wrong and contradicts all observation - so every time you ghetto-rig it to match one aspect if reality it produces 100 more contradictions elsewhere. Of course there's no consensus.

If you mean there's no consensus among people who accept reality with regard to the observed path of the sun and of the times and seasons on the planet, that's patently false and irresponsibly ridiculous. All of this is very well and very thoroughly understood as an heliocentric solar system, and calculations in this model match observation everywhere, at every time, extraordinarily precisely.

FEN doesn't even come within light-years of being able to predict observational reality. This is why most of us just can't even believe you can be serious about this. It's nothing short of pitiable & laughable once all the facts are on the table.

 

[Zen]

https://www.theverge.com/2012/5/12/3016254/russian-satellite-earth-from-space-121-megapixels

The best photos of Earth and the moon from space - Business Insider

LIVE STREAMING FROM INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION

Not real, sorry.

 

[pckts]

If you mean there is no consensus among flatheads ell yeah, that's because their model is absolutely wrong and contradicts all observation - so every time you ghetto-only it to match one aspect if reality it produces 100 more contradictions elsewhere. Of course there's no consensus.

If you mean there's no consensus among people who accept reality with regard to the observed path of the sun and of the times and seasons on the planet, that's patently false and irresponsibly ridiculous. All of this is very well and very thoroughly understood as an heliocentric solar system, and calculations in this model match observation everywhere, at every time, extraordinarily precisely.

FEN doesn't even come within light-years of being able to predict observational reality. This is why most of us just can't even believe you can be serious about this. It's nothing short of pitiable & laughable once all the facts are on the table.

How do I analyze those photos without a time and date?

The globe is very laughable when you realize all the videos and images are studio productions and cartoons, and it wouldn't matter if you had 100 degrees, anyone who can't see this is not wise in this area.

 

[Zen]

How many of these pictures are real?

Why are these 2 pictures so similar, when one is of something that is allegedly 490 light years away?

Could it be that they are literally artistic impressions?

 

[posthuman]

Why are these 2 pictures so similar, when one is of something that is allegedly 490 light years away?

Could it be that they are literally artistic impressions?

Don't be stupid, dude.

No one even pretends that there are pictures of extra-solar planets. Do you understand how they are detected?

You are not doing your argument any favors with posts like this.

 

[pckts]

Don't be stupid, dude.

No one even pretends that there are pictures of extra-solar planets. Do you understand how they are detected?

You are not doing your argument any favors with posts like this.

Dude, he's trying to show you that artist renderings of lands far far away look near identical to our "photos" of earth, you are suppose to look at them side by side and come to the realization that they are both artist renderings.

 

[Zen]

Don't be stupid, dude.

No one even pretends that there are pictures of extra-solar planets. Do you understand how they are detected?

You are not doing your argument any favors with posts like this.

*stops being stupid*

ok dude is that better?

 

[Zen]

Dude, he's trying to show you that artist renderings of lands far far away look near identical to our "photos" of earth, you are suppose to look at them side by side and come to the realization that they are both artist renderings.

See what I mean? This whole thing is pointless.

 

[mrh35]

Really burst our bubble telling us the earth is flat.....dont tell me Venus was a Goddess Mars is a chcocolate bar and Mercury stays in thermometers.