Sabbath

[Grace777x70]

The 10 commandments are a part of the law of Moses. Paul himself spoke of this. Unless "coveting" got kicked out of the 10 commandments because it was caught "coveting". Selah.

People want to "separate" out the 10 commandments from the rest of the Law to get us to follow their Sabbath day as outlined in the Old Covenant and thus they can continue to say by spiritual manipulation that we Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God because we don't observe the Sabbath as done in the law of Moses.

But Paul said "cursed is everyone that doesn't do all that is commanded in the law".

Romans 7:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."


The 10 commandments were called the ministry of condemnation and of death by Paul. We can trust the life of Christ in us to live godly in this world.

The grace of God "teaches" now in the New Covenant how to deny ungodliness and to live sensibly, righteous and godly in this present age - NOT the law of Moses. Titus 2:11-12

The 10 commandments are called the "letter that kills" and the "ministry of death" - The New Covenant is called the "ministry of the Spirit" that brings Life.

The 10 commandments were called "the ministry of condemnation" - the New Covenant is called "the ministry of righteousness." This is Christ's righteousness given to us that believe.

2 Corinthians 3:6-9 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,

[SUP]8 [/SUP] how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?

[SUP]9 [/SUP] For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.

The law of Moses including the 10 commandments are like an x-ray machine - they show up things that are wrong but the x-ray machine has no power to "fix it".

It just reveals what is wrong. It's the same here for Christ Himself and His life in our new hearts is the only thing that can "fix us" with a transformed live.

 

[JaumeJ]

The Ten Commandments were inscribed first in stone by God. The other statutes and ordinaces regarding those fulfilled by Jesus Christ were WRITTEN down by Moses.

Yes, the law is referred to as teh law of Moses, but Moses did not dream up a one of them, not a one.

The ten inscribed in stone by God are now understood by all adopted by Him for they are within each of us.

I know they are all part of living love and not written codes qhich kill. The hHooly Spirit has given them life for all who believe God.

As far as Jesus teacheing about the law to "only the Jews," He did say He came to save HIs flock first, and His Salvation is knowing and understanding His Godpel just as Abraham did. Of course this comes after teh free gift of salvation, out of true and holy gratitude.

The only sacrifice now availed to any of us to sacrifice is teh sacrifice of thanksgiving, and we thank Jesus Christ be hearing Him and following His example as is written.........

Nowhere is it written to not hear Him, and when Ihear Him I know the Ten Commandments are there in my heart, and His Example is our way to folow.

One may cut and paste all the text from the Word but without the understanding exclusively afforded by the Holy Spirit any reading, repeating or quoting in print without the Holy Spirit having imparted understanding is simply a nuisance.

 

[JaumeJ]

PS.........First in stone, second in the inward parts on the heart........

 

[Grandpa]

PS.........First in stone, second in the inward parts on the heart........

Wrong.

The 10 commandments are given to those who refuse His Grace. The commandments on stone for those with the heart of stone. A yoke of bondage for the stubborn, stiff-necked. Carnal work for the carnal minded.


The Spirit is given for those who accept His Grace. This is what is written on the heart of those who have entered into His Rest given by Christ;

[FONT=&quot]Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]m[/FONT][FONT=&quot]eekness, temperance.


[/FONT]Gods Law is Love. Not commandments.

Gods Law is Life. Not death.

Gods Law is blessing. Not a curse.

Gods Law is Spiritual. Not carnal.

Gods Law is Rest. Not work.

Gods Law is Provision. Not requirement.


I'm pretty sure you know this JaumeJ. I'm not sure why you would pretend that the 10 Commandments are Gods Law. Except for your own love of your own "wisdom".

The 10 commandments are the requirement given to those who have not accepted Gods Grace, Gods Provision, Gods Blessing, Gods Love.

The ironic thing is that most of you who try to work at the 10 commandments have tried to turn this around and say only those who love God work at the 10 commandments. Working at the commandments isn't caused by your love of God. Its caused by the love of your own work and your own "understanding".


I would normally just say good luck with your stubborn-ness. Have a good time finding out about the futility of your own work. But the Love of God shown to us won't allow it. He Loves us even when we were enemies. So we must love the enemies of His Gospel because we ourselves were the enemies of His Gospel at one point.

Does it make a lot of sense to emulate people who are the enemy of the Gospel? Not if you profess Christianity...

 

[JaumeJ]

The Ten Commandments were inscribed first in stone by God. The other statutes and ordinaces regarding those fulfilled by Jesus Christ were WRITTEN down by Moses.

Yes, the law is referred to as teh law of Moses, but Moses did not dream up a one of them, not a one.

The ten inscribed in stone by God are now understood by all adopted by Him for they are within each of us.

I know they are all part of living love and not written codes qhich kill. The hHooly Spirit has given them life for all who believe God.

As far as Jesus teacheing about the law to "only the Jews," He did say He came to save HIs flock first, and His Salvation is knowing and understanding His Godpel just as Abraham did. Of course this comes after teh free gift of salvation, out of true and holy gratitude.

The only sacrifice now availed to any of us to sacrifice is teh sacrifice of thanksgiving, and we thank Jesus Christ be hearing Him and following His example as is written.........

Nowhere is it written to not hear Him, and when Ihear Him I know the Ten Commandments are there in my heart, and His Example is our way to folow.

One may cut and paste all the text from the Word but without the understanding exclusively afforded by the Holy Spirit any reading, repeating or quoting in print without the Holy Spirit having imparted understanding is simply a nuisance.

 

[JaumeJ]

You are not reading my posts from today at least, here is one that is in response to someone saying we are free of the law because of "passing through the Blood of Jesus". This is saqyin g we may now be disobedient....


People, children of God, who know Jesus Christ know how the law is still in force according to Jesus Christ's teachings n the law. He teaches not to teach agains even the least of the laws. NOw all who know Him know which are fulfilled by Him but the Ten Commandments are always good advice from our Father Who is simply telling us to behave.

Ankyone who believes being saved by grace means it is ok to be disobedient is naive, ignorant or just plain evil.

Are you saying that because I am saved by grace, adn I am, that I am now free to be disobedient? That is a perverse thought and worse as a practice.

Anyone who has heard and udnerstood dJesus knows what being free is, and it is certainly not free to disobey God.

 

[Grandpa]

The Ten Commandments were inscribed first in stone by God. The other statutes and ordinaces regarding those fulfilled by Jesus Christ were WRITTEN down by Moses.

Yes, the law is referred to as teh law of Moses, but Moses did not dream up a one of them, not a one.

The ten inscribed in stone by God are now understood by all adopted by Him for they are within each of us.

I know they are all part of living love and not written codes qhich kill. The hHooly Spirit has given them life for all who believe God.

As far as Jesus teacheing about the law to "only the Jews," He did say He came to save HIs flock first, and His Salvation is knowing and understanding His Godpel just as Abraham did. Of course this comes after teh free gift of salvation, out of true and holy gratitude.

The only sacrifice now availed to any of us to sacrifice is teh sacrifice of thanksgiving, and we thank Jesus Christ be hearing Him and following His example as is written.........

Nowhere is it written to not hear Him, and when Ihear Him I know the Ten Commandments are there in my heart, and His Example is our way to folow.

One may cut and paste all the text from the Word but without the understanding exclusively afforded by the Holy Spirit any reading, repeating or quoting in print without the Holy Spirit having imparted understanding is simply a nuisance.

The ministry of Death and Condemnation is in your heart?

Wouldn't you rather have Life?

Wouldn't you rather have Blessing?


Salvation is truly a miracle. You are right about being thankful. That is all we have to offer. Gratefulness.

 

[stonesoffire]

The ministry of Death and Condemnation is in your heart?

Wouldn't you rather have Life?

Wouldn't you rather have Blessing?


Salvation is truly a miracle. You are right about being thankful. That is all we have to offer. Gratefulness.

I've never heard this before grandpa..It's a lot to chew on when one has thought certain things for years.

 

[Grandpa]

I've never heard this before grandpa..It's a lot to chew on when one has thought certain things for years.

Yes it is.

A lot of the strongholds against the Gospel are contained in religion itself. Taken for granted as "gospel" truth.

 

[loveme1]

The Commandments of GOD written in stone were to be written on our Hearts through the Messiah.


Jeremiah 31


31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts ishis name:
36If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
38Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner. 39And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath. 40And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.

 

[JaumeJ]

Grandpa,

By your understanding of living free of sin, we are to continue in sin, ignoring what sin is, that is breaking the law.

When are you going to accept that we have turned from being childrenof disobedience to being children of obedience.

Being free of sinis being free of its curse, but not the moral obligation of obeying according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Do not say Jesus Christ teaches us that law is obsolet, for He has taught us the new meaning and spirit of it.

If you have not read what I have posgted over the years, fine, but at least learn what Jesus teaches and by His Example.

Yes, He fulfills all the lawsof priesthood, for He is the High Priest , and allt he laws concerning sacrifice for He is teh only sacrifice for sin.

Yes He fulfills all the dietary laws in His teaching that nothing by entering our bodies can corrupt us,, only what proceeds fro our hearts if we live in fornication, lasciviousnees, covetness and so forthe. Or do you believe this last list of maral laws are no longer. If you say hes, I pity you.

We are to continue in obedience according to Jesus Christ.

If you say you love, then you will naturally obey the commandments, but do not teach that grace and mercy are to be exercised in disobedience, . Turn to the love, mercy and grace of God, not the doctrines of man taught as from God, for they are not from God.

Either you have become a child of obedience or you are remaining in worksw of darkness. God bless you to do what is corre4ct in His sight. This in eht grace of Jesus Christ is life at the fullest.

 

[graceNpeace]

The Commandments of GOD written in stone were to be written on our Hearts through the Messiah.


Jeremiah 31


31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts ishis name:
36If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
38Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner. 39And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath. 40And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.

Well think about this:
When Jeremiah talks about a new covenant (vs 31), what exactly is new about it?
It is not a retread of the covenant made with Moses is it?
If it were then it would NOT be new!

The next verse (vs 32) confirms this by explicitly saying that the new covenant is NOT according to the covenant I (God) made with their fathers!
Your post only highlights ONE of the differences and that you misinterpret due to your doctrinal biases.
You see not only the terms of this new covenant but the parties involved are different when compared to the Mosaic covenant.
And the results for us, the beneficiaries of the new covenant, are also very different!

Most decidedly, the purpose of the new covenant is NOT to hold us to the terms of a covenant that is already broken (vs 32) in any way whatsoever - and that includes the ten commandments since they are Mosaic covenant (Deut 4:14).
This insistence on trying to separate the ten commandments from the rest of the covenant law that God gave to Moses cannot be sustained from Scripture (it is just another hopelessly false doctrinal bias).

Perhaps you need to really examine the terms of the new covenant and the parties ACTUALLY involved in honouring the new covenant. People, be they Jews or Gentiles are NOT primary parties to this covenant - merely the beneficiaries - and so are NOT legally bound to the terms of the new covenant!
If you think that what I have written sounds like a legal contract - it is!
To understand it properly one needs to know who the parties are and what the terms are...

If one is a legalistic Sabbatarian then it is clear that neither the parties nor the terms of the covenant are understood!

 

[Grandpa]

Grandpa,

By your understanding of living free of sin, we are to continue in sin, ignoring what sin is, that is breaking the law.

When are you going to accept that we have turned from being childrenof disobedience to being children of obedience.

Being free of sinis being free of its curse, but not the moral obligation of obeying according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Do not say Jesus Christ teaches us that law is obsolet, for He has taught us the new meaning and spirit of it.

If you have not read what I have posgted over the years, fine, but at least learn what Jesus teaches and by His Example.

Yes, He fulfills all the lawsof priesthood, for He is the High Priest , and allt he laws concerning sacrifice for He is teh only sacrifice for sin.

Yes He fulfills all the dietary laws in His teaching that nothing by entering our bodies can corrupt us,, only what proceeds fro our hearts if we live in fornication, lasciviousnees, covetness and so forthe. Or do you believe this last list of maral laws are no longer. If you say hes, I pity you.

We are to continue in obedience according to Jesus Christ.

If you say you love, then you will naturally obey the commandments, but do not teach that grace and mercy are to be exercised in disobedience, . Turn to the love, mercy and grace of God, not the doctrines of man taught as from God, for they are not from God.

Either you have become a child of obedience or you are remaining in worksw of darkness. God bless you to do what is corre4ct in His sight. This in eht grace of Jesus Christ is life at the fullest.

Galatians 3:10-12
[FONT=&quot]10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Working at the law is not a gauge of your obedience.

Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

No reason for a Christian to struggle so over this.

Galatians 3:24-25
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[FONT=&quot]24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.


And the weird thing is that you say faith in Christ naturally causes you to be entangled again in the yoke of bondage. Obviously you are mistaken since Paul tells us explicitly not to go back to our work at the law.

I think Paul is really easy to understand. But maybe not...


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[Grandpa]

The Commandments of GOD written in stone were to be written on our Hearts through the Messiah.


Jeremiah 31


31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts ishis name:
36If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
38Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner. 39And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath. 40And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.

I think you missed a few important points...

 

[LoveGodForever]

My Goodness Grace777

You continual cutting and pasting when people have shared God's Word with you is to your same as it clearly shows you reject God's Word to follow man made teachings. Comments in RED

The 10 commandments are a part of the law of Moses. Paul himself spoke of this. Unless "coveting" got kicked out of the 10 commandments because it was caught "coveting". Selah. People want to "separate" out the 10 commandments from the rest of the Law to get us to follow their Sabbath day as outlined in the Old Covenant and thus they can continue to say by spiritual manipulation that we Christians are sinning and dis-obeying God because we don't observe the Sabbath as done in the law of Moses. But Paul said "cursed is everyone that doesn't do all that is commanded in the law".

This has been shared with you already I am only posting these links for those that do not know what you have rejected already

The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (1)

The difference between God's Law and the laws of Moses (2)

Romans 7:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "YOU SHALL NOT COVET."

Absolutely! Through the Law of God is the knowledge of Sin, sin is the transgression (breaking) of God's Law and the wages of sin is death (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23). Go and read all of God's Law it can be found here (Ex 20:1-17)

The 10 commandments were called the ministry of condemnation and of death by Paul. We can trust the life of Christ in us to live godly in this world.

Absolutely, because the 10 commandments point out our sins and the wages of sin is death. They give us a knowledge of sin and point us to Jesus the Savior of sin (Rom 6:23)

The grace of God "teaches" now in the New Covenant how to deny ungodliness and to live sensibly, righteous and godly in this present age - NOT the law of Moses. Titus 2:11-12

Yes the laws of Moses (ceremonial, burnt offerings, Levitical, Feast days etc) that pointed to Jesus was nailed to the cross. The Laws of God (10 commandments) however are the foundation of the Old and New Covenants. In the New Covenant the 10 commandments are written in our heart (Heb 8:10-12) through love so that we love God and our fellow man. Love is the fulfilling of God's Law (10 commandments) (Rom 13:10) and this is why Jesus says "If you love me keep my commandments" (John 14:15)

The 10 commandments are called the "letter that kills" and the "ministry of death" - The New Covenant is called the "ministry of the Spirit" that brings Life. The 10 commandments were called "the ministry of condemnation" - the New Covenant is called "the ministry of righteousness." This is Christ's righteousness given to us that believe.

Absolutely! Through the Law of God is the knowledge of Sin, sin is the transgression (breaking) of God's Law and the wages of sin is death (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23). Go and read all of God's Law it can be found here (Ex 20:1-17); You should look up the meaning of the word righteousness but God's Word clearly tells us what righteousness means in the New Covenant "My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness." (Ps 119:172). The New Covenant is God writing His Law in our hearts through love so that we can follow him. (John 14:15)

2 Corinthians 3:6-9 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was,
[SUP]8 [/SUP] how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory.
The law of Moses including the 10 commandments are like an x-ray machine - they show up things that are wrong but the x-ray machine has no power to "fix it".

It just reveals what is wrong. It's the same here for Christ Himself and His life in our new hearts is the only thing that can "fix us" with a transformed live.
I love those scripture that you based your post around however as has been shown above they do not follow your interpretations of Gods Word. This should be a warning sign to you my friend. Your eyes are closed because you want to follow your traditions. This is why I worry about you Grace777

 

[oldethennew]

it is sometimes still unbelievable to us who have been 'called out' - to see where those
who are desiring to come out from this world's deceptions, hopefully trying, waiting for
their Lord and Master,
Jesus Christ, to call them out of this fallen-world' lies and un-realities and its satanic lies...

much less the heart ache that goes along with it...

 

[oldethennew]

there is so much more to offer Christ than just our believing,,,so MUCH MORE...

 

[prove-all]

The curse of the law


Many believe the law itself is “the curse” but scripture tells us Gods law is holy, just, and good in Romans 7:12 “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.” So what was the curse? The curse of the law came in by 2 ways, the first is shown here in Deuteronomy 27:26 “Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.And all the people shall say, Amen.”


The first part of this curse has to do with sin as it is written in Romans 7:10-11 “And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.” Again we see the law was ordained unto life, but the curse came when man could not keep the law because of the weakness of his flesh and sin. So who’s the bad guy here, the law, or sin? If you answered sin then you would be correct.


Now for the second part of the curse, which is swearing to the oath. It is written Galatians 3:10 “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.”


After Moses had read the law, all the blessings and the curses, the people then bound themselves to the oath by agreeing to keep everything that was written in the law. The word oath in Hebrew can also be defined and shown as the word curse in scripture. And swearing to an oath can also be shown as binding ones soul to a curse as in Nehemiah 10:29 “They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the Lord our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;”


And in Daniel 9:11 “Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.” And here is where the curse came in by swearing themselves to the oath in Numbers 30:2 “If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.”


And so being unable to perform the vow to God to keep the whole law, because of the weakness of the flesh and of sin, then the curses mentioned in the law were put into effect.

Which is why Jesus said Matthew 5:33-37 “Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”


And here again also in James 5:12 “But above all things, my brethren, swear not,
neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your
yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.”

 

[loveme1]

Well think about this:
When Jeremiah talks about a new covenant (vs 31), what exactly is new about it?
It is not a retread of the covenant made with Moses is it?
If it were then it would NOT be new!

The next verse (vs 32) confirms this by explicitly saying that the new covenant is NOT according to the covenant I (God) made with their fathers!
Your post only highlights ONE of the differences and that you misinterpret due to your doctrinal biases.
You see not only the terms of this new covenant but the parties involved are different when compared to the Mosaic covenant.
And the results for us, the beneficiaries of the new covenant, are also very different!

Most decidedly, the purpose of the new covenant is NOT to hold us to the terms of a covenant that is already broken (vs 32) in any way whatsoever - and that includes the ten commandments since they are Mosaic covenant (Deut 4:14).
This insistence on trying to separate the ten commandments from the rest of the covenant law that God gave to Moses cannot be sustained from Scripture (it is just another hopelessly false doctrinal bias).

Perhaps you need to really examine the terms of the new covenant and the parties ACTUALLY involved in honouring the new covenant. People, be they Jews or Gentiles are NOT primary parties to this covenant - merely the beneficiaries - and so are NOT legally bound to the terms of the new covenant!
If you think that what I have written sounds like a legal contract - it is!
To understand it properly one needs to know who the parties are and what the terms are...

If one is a legalistic Sabbatarian then it is clear that neither the parties nor the terms of the covenant are understood!

You make big speeches..... but I suggest you seek some milk.

Ask yourself this.. is GOD pleased with your teaching here?

Examine the Scriptures.. even Jeremiah 31.....

Is it not odd to you that you have missed the New Covenant? 31:33...... does it say I will give new laws? No it is a New Covenant where the LORD's law is written in our inwards..

The Messiah gave Testimony and I believe Him....

Now go find a verse that you can write an essay about and may the Babes seek Scripture and may the Holy Spirit guide and comfort them.

 

[loveme1]

I think you missed a few important points...

what points do you say I missed?


Be careful to note who the Writings are from before you proceed..