The Rapture
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LOL. Maybe I bring both. Don't want to be bringing a golf club to a gun fight. Might take my 12 gauge along too in case they are in the process of being raptured when they attack. I better stop, I love my disillusioned pre-tribbers.
At least I don't have to prep like the post trib futurists. If America gets wiped out by the North Koreans tomorrow I'll immediately be in heaven and get to avoid my hip replacement set for Friday. Then I expect to meet all my American pre-tribber friends in heaven and we can watch to see how all this plays out together. I expect a lot of crow eating. (This is figurative talk for those who think they will literally eat crows).
At least I don't have to prep like the post trib futurists. If America gets wiped out by the North Koreans tomorrow I'll immediately be in heaven and get to avoid my hip replacement set for Friday. Then I expect to meet all my American pre-tribber friends in heaven and we can watch to see how all this plays out together. I expect a lot of crow eating. (This is figurative talk for those who think they will literally eat crows).
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Why does this have to happen before the first seal. What Scripture tells you that? Why can't God protect His people from His wrath after the first seal is open? God poured out His wrath when He flooded the earth. Noah was there hid in the ark; why can't Christians be there hid in Christ especially when Jesus said it will be like in the days of Noah? Even during the Passover God poured out His wrath, but the children of Israel were there protected from God's wrath on the wicked. Show Scriptural support for your claim.
That was the start of the transition between ages. Zec 11 gives the official breaking of the covenant at the destruction of Jerusalem. The burning of the Temple ended the Law. So, Christ redeemed us at the Cross in 30 AD and ended the Law in 70 AD. They had another 40 years in the wilderness (to repent), so to speak.
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The apostle Paul said that won't happen until the man of sin is revealed 2 Thes. 2 and Jesus said after the tribulation we'll see Him coming in the clouds. Mat. 24 There will be no secret thief like rapture, there is no Scriptural support for it. Why do you believe this when you have to go contrary to Scripture or the plain word to do it?
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Thus says the Lord my God, “Feed the flock for slaughter, [SUP]5 [/SUP]whose owners slaughter them and feel no guilt; those who sell them say, ‘Blessed be the Lord, for I am rich’; and their shepherds do not pity them. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For I will no longer pity the inhabitants of the land,” says the Lord. “But indeed I will give everyone into his neighbor’s hand and into the hand of his king. They shall attack the land, and I will not deliver them from their hand.”
[SUP]7 [/SUP]So I fed the flock for slaughter, in particular the poor of the flock.[SUP][/SUP] I took for myself two staffs: the one I called Beauty,[SUP][/SUP] and the other I called Bonds;[SUP][/SUP] and I fed the flock. [SUP]8 [/SUP]I dismissed the three shepherds in one month. My soul loathed them, and their soul also abhorred me. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Then I said, “I will not feed you. Let what is dying die, and what is perishing perish. Let those that are left eat each other’s flesh.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]And I took my staff, Beauty, and cut it in two, that I might break the covenant which I had made with all the peoples. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So it was broken on that day.
BEAUTY was the Law covenant as we see here:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And you shall make holy garments for Aaron your brother, for glory and for beauty.
Bonds was the brotherhood between Israel and Judah as we see here:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Then I cut in two my other staff, Bonds, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.[TABLE="class: passage-cols"]
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After 70 AD, there were no more tribes and no more two nations. Yes, the veil was rent. But they must have sowed it back up (because Titus cut it again) and kept up their sacrifices even though God would no longer acknowledge them. The flock were slaughtered by their own leaders, especially the poor of the flock (3rd seal). The three shepherds were Eleazar, and the tyrants Simon and John. They were dispatched in one month (taken away) by Titus. These three shepherds slaughtered more of their people during their internal civil war than the Romans.
[FONT="]3 So Jonah (Jesus) arose, and went unto Nineveh, (Jerusalem) according to the word of the Lord. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.(3 year ministry) [/FONT]
[FONT="]4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, (40 years from start of ministry AD30) and Nineveh shall be overthrown.(AD70)[/FONT]
[FONT="]5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.[/FONT]
