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Theres a new Hey Arnold film coming out later this year, and the series might even be rebooted too.
Id be pretty darn unhappy if they decided to make Helga Pataki a boy.
I can totally understand why anyone would be unhappy that theyre making the new Dr. Who a woman.
Its totally awesome to create strong and awesome female characters. But, its really lame to change already established and beloved characters gender for the sake of being "progressive" or whatever.
I totally hate it when stuff like this happens too : /
Id be pretty darn unhappy if they decided to make Helga Pataki a boy.
I can totally understand why anyone would be unhappy that theyre making the new Dr. Who a woman.
Its totally awesome to create strong and awesome female characters. But, its really lame to change already established and beloved characters gender for the sake of being "progressive" or whatever.
I totally hate it when stuff like this happens too : /
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I don't really mind. It depends on how she plays it. I usually hate gender-bends because it's usually just for the case of having someone be a woman or to allow romance between two main characters. You run into that problem in adaptations of classics often. It's difficult to find more than one or two adaptations of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas where Nemo doesn't have a daughter inserted or some other female doesn't tag along. None of the ones I've seen seem to be for any other reason than a) they feel the need for some romance or b) they think not having a female character will make the film unrelateable to women. As a woman, I find no difficulty enjoying a film with no females and no romance.
But, Elementary successfully introduced a female Watson and I liked that because she was a strong character and the writers didn't seem to think that her being a female meant she had to be in a relationship with Holmes (although I'm several seasons behind, so maybe it's gone that direction). If Jodi Whittaker can portray the Doctor as the Doctor who happens to be a woman instead of the Doctor who is now defined by the fact that she is a woman, I don't see much of a problem with that. Time Lords aren't humans. What's natural for them isn't what's natural for us. It's not scandalous that male seahorses give birth because they're seahorses not humans. Likewise, in a fictional reality where God created Time Lords, if He created them able to regenerate their appearance and sex, there would be no reason the change would be ridiculous. And regeneration is hazy enough as it is, with its known rules changing depending on the writer.
But, Elementary successfully introduced a female Watson and I liked that because she was a strong character and the writers didn't seem to think that her being a female meant she had to be in a relationship with Holmes (although I'm several seasons behind, so maybe it's gone that direction). If Jodi Whittaker can portray the Doctor as the Doctor who happens to be a woman instead of the Doctor who is now defined by the fact that she is a woman, I don't see much of a problem with that. Time Lords aren't humans. What's natural for them isn't what's natural for us. It's not scandalous that male seahorses give birth because they're seahorses not humans. Likewise, in a fictional reality where God created Time Lords, if He created them able to regenerate their appearance and sex, there would be no reason the change would be ridiculous. And regeneration is hazy enough as it is, with its known rules changing depending on the writer.
It's a done deal guys... and gals...!
Say hello to your new Dr. Who...
Doctor Who: Jodie Whittaker Takes Over the Role | National Review
Say hello to your new Dr. Who...
Doctor Who: Jodie Whittaker Takes Over the Role | National Review
There have been several posts on this thread which allege that the transformation of Dr Who into a female character is a reflection of liberal or progressive politics. Frankly, I am puzzled as to how people came up with this idea.
As shown above, this is not the first time a ship's captain was similarly transformed. Further, super heroes have had numerous female enemies (Superman had the Spider Lady, Batman had Catwoman, and ultimately, Dr Who's enemy the Master changed into the Mistress). Back in the 1960s there was a comic book Superman episode where he was killed by Lex Luthor and Supergirl took charge of crime fighting.
Why was there not so much controversy when Thor was transformed into a female:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/15/thor-is-a-woman-in-new-marvel-comicbook-series
or Captain Marvel and others:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/15/thor-is-a-woman-in-new-marvel-comicbook-series
When I was browsing online for these links, I came across quite a number of other fictional characters who made similar transformation. Historically, several mythical gods/goddesses changed gender identity such as the West African god Shango'. Gender based changes for heroes and villains is as old as humanity. There is no indication or historical evidence that politics had anything to do with these changes. While everyone is free to view the current change of Dr Who as such, they should give some evidence to prove their claim that the change was made because of political motivation.
As shown above, this is not the first time a ship's captain was similarly transformed. Further, super heroes have had numerous female enemies (Superman had the Spider Lady, Batman had Catwoman, and ultimately, Dr Who's enemy the Master changed into the Mistress). Back in the 1960s there was a comic book Superman episode where he was killed by Lex Luthor and Supergirl took charge of crime fighting.
Why was there not so much controversy when Thor was transformed into a female:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/15/thor-is-a-woman-in-new-marvel-comicbook-series
or Captain Marvel and others:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/jul/15/thor-is-a-woman-in-new-marvel-comicbook-series
When I was browsing online for these links, I came across quite a number of other fictional characters who made similar transformation. Historically, several mythical gods/goddesses changed gender identity such as the West African god Shango'. Gender based changes for heroes and villains is as old as humanity. There is no indication or historical evidence that politics had anything to do with these changes. While everyone is free to view the current change of Dr Who as such, they should give some evidence to prove their claim that the change was made because of political motivation.
I had no idea Thor was turned into a female.. but I love the idea! They should do that for the movies too! I actually like Dr. Who turning into a woman too...and James Bond becoming a woman would be a welcome improvement! Although I'm still a fan of Connery and Moore..
The changes might be because of PC, it might not. I really don't care what the reason is, but I think its PC because Dr Who has a huge female audience so there's no real reason for them to change genders, but whether I'm right or wrong about it doesn't worry me one bit.
I actually like Dr. Who turning into a woman too...and James Bond becoming a woman would be a welcome improvement! Although I'm still a fan of Connery and Moore..The changes might be because of PC, it might not. I really don't care what the reason is, but I think its PC because Dr Who has a huge female audience so there's no real reason for them to change genders, but whether I'm right or wrong about it doesn't worry me one bit.
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When it's forced, it looks super derivative.
I watched Kong: Skull Island last night. Great movie. Probably my favorite since the one from the 1930's. I liked it so much, I watched the "making of" thingy on the DVD.
That's when I got annoyed with the actors.
Brie Larson- "I wanted to play a female character people have never really seen before. A strong woman who doesn't sit and wait for a man to save her."
My response-
This has been a trope since the 80's! Gosh.
Or how about all these people fawning over Daisy Ridley like her character is sooooo much stronger than Princess Leia?
Leia who withstood torture like a champ, piloted the Falcon out of the hanger, coordinated successful battles and rescue operations AND made successful first contact with a race of charming yet highly dangerous bear people.
Oh and she killed Jabba with a chain. A CHAIN! Imagine how many dudes tried to ice Jabba with blasters?
I watched Kong: Skull Island last night. Great movie. Probably my favorite since the one from the 1930's. I liked it so much, I watched the "making of" thingy on the DVD.
That's when I got annoyed with the actors.
Brie Larson- "I wanted to play a female character people have never really seen before. A strong woman who doesn't sit and wait for a man to save her."
My response-
This has been a trope since the 80's! Gosh.
Or how about all these people fawning over Daisy Ridley like her character is sooooo much stronger than Princess Leia?
Leia who withstood torture like a champ, piloted the Falcon out of the hanger, coordinated successful battles and rescue operations AND made successful first contact with a race of charming yet highly dangerous bear people.
Oh and she killed Jabba with a chain. A CHAIN! Imagine how many dudes tried to ice Jabba with blasters?
Falling back to the first paragraph, I agree. Gender bends (generally) make for bad story-telling in general. Either they are trying to lazily resolve or create a love triangle or ruining what makes a character distinctive in the first place.
007, for example, is a distinctly male character. As is Thor. Thor has been male since some tree-dwelling dude made him up a few millennia ago.
I mean if you're going to make a TV series about a BA chick from the Norse pantheon, go with Freya. Goddess of fertility AND war. The scenes write themselves.
I don't know about Doctor Who. I get the sense that he's an androgynous, sprite-like character. Gender bending could make some things more interesting for him.
007, for example, is a distinctly male character. As is Thor. Thor has been male since some tree-dwelling dude made him up a few millennia ago.
I mean if you're going to make a TV series about a BA chick from the Norse pantheon, go with Freya. Goddess of fertility AND war. The scenes write themselves.
I don't know about Doctor Who. I get the sense that he's an androgynous, sprite-like character. Gender bending could make some things more interesting for him.
I don't think this whole Dr. Who thing is politically motivated. But I don't know the show or it's writers well enough to make a judgment.
That being said, you really can't fault people for that suspicion when the Left's causes de jure all seem directed toward blurring sexual norms and the people who write much of our entertainment happen to be of the Left.
That being said, you really can't fault people for that suspicion when the Left's causes de jure all seem directed toward blurring sexual norms and the people who write much of our entertainment happen to be of the Left.
I just did in my post above^
If there is an already established character that people really like, changing something about that character will make the people who like the character unhappy. And changing the gender of the character is a major change.
It has nothing to do with the female gender at all. Its that people dont want to see their favorite characters changed for the sake of "progress".
Create good female characters instead of riding on the success of established characters that people are already invested in.
Its not a problem of sexism in any way whatsoever.
If there is an already established character that people really like, changing something about that character will make the people who like the character unhappy. And changing the gender of the character is a major change.
It has nothing to do with the female gender at all. Its that people dont want to see their favorite characters changed for the sake of "progress".
Create good female characters instead of riding on the success of established characters that people are already invested in.
Its not a problem of sexism in any way whatsoever.
I get Leia on all the "which Star Wars characters are you" quizzes.
At first my white male christian homophob brain didn't like it. Then I realized she's the most functional one of the bunch.
Realistic but virtuous. Charming but dignified. Strong but not briddle. Dependable but not risk-averse. Sexy and respectable.
Who can say that about any character after Obi-Wan kicked it?
#PrinceLeo #ready4him #imgonnabdoxed
At first my white male christian homophob brain didn't like it. Then I realized she's the most functional one of the bunch.
Realistic but virtuous. Charming but dignified. Strong but not briddle. Dependable but not risk-averse. Sexy and respectable.
Who can say that about any character after Obi-Wan kicked it?
#PrinceLeo #ready4him #imgonnabdoxed
I agree that there certainly is no basis for believing this change is politically motivated. And it is true that many who write for TV entertainment are of the more leftward slanted (this especially so in the UK and Continental Europe). As for blending of sexual norms, this is old hat for religious/heroic icons. So much so that it goes back to centuries BCE. Thus, no surprise that a Dr Who, Master, Superman/Girl, Thor/ess, etc evolved. Such is quite the norm historically.
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I don't think there is any political motivation in changing the gender of Dr Who.
I do think all this changing around stuff is the current fashionable fad.
So we have a female Dr Who
A female Sherlock Holmes
A black Elvis Presley played in Joseph's coat of many colours on stage (not sure
why Elvis appears in that play anyway!)
A blond bond instead of a dark haired bond.
Plus many more.
Its just all a big fashion fad.
Some things though shouldn't be changed. Why can't script writers just come
up with new characters in new shows and movies. Why do they have to ruin a
perfectly good format just to be fashionable.
What if we had a ginger locks and the three bears.
Or Coal Black and the seven giants.
Or Steve White and the seven fairies.
Leave our original characters alone and invent some new shows I say.
I do think all this changing around stuff is the current fashionable fad.
So we have a female Dr Who
A female Sherlock Holmes
A black Elvis Presley played in Joseph's coat of many colours on stage (not sure
why Elvis appears in that play anyway!)
A blond bond instead of a dark haired bond.
Plus many more.
Its just all a big fashion fad.
Some things though shouldn't be changed. Why can't script writers just come
up with new characters in new shows and movies. Why do they have to ruin a
perfectly good format just to be fashionable.
What if we had a ginger locks and the three bears.
Or Coal Black and the seven giants.
Or Steve White and the seven fairies.
Leave our original characters alone and invent some new shows I say.