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Jesus was the pigeon
[FONT="]Leviticus 5:7[/FONT]
[FONT="]And if he be not able to bring a lamb, then he shall bring for his trespass, which he hath committed, two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the Lord; one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering.[/FONT]
[FONT="]Leviticus 5:7[/FONT]
[FONT="]And if he be not able to bring a lamb, then he shall bring for his trespass, which he hath committed, two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the Lord; one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering.[/FONT]
Some how the Jew worshippers can't wrap their heads around Romans 9:8. I don't know why, because when I read it from the KING JAMES it made perfect sense to me.... The physical children ARE NOT the children of God. Why is this hard for Jew worshippers to grasp?
Romans 9:8 KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Romans 9:8 KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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pete9
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I don't know how to say this, in a general, non-offensive manner.. But some of these writings, like this are so..let's see..backwards..that I am amazed. There is something..vicious..about the lust that supporters have for that state and the practitioners of judaism. I am curious when (if ever) any major "Christian" media outlets criticize the state. I am curious what Bible radio stations criticize it instead of continually supporting it. I wonder if FOX, the only "Christian-ish" news media ever criticizes it. These details obviously slip past certain individuals.
I imagine certain individuals preaching against the wickedness of Sodom in the streets of Jerusalem, and not only being murdered by a mob of jews, but also by "Christians" who will fight to the death for their "friends" (masters). I think between the number of them in the Supreme Court of this country as well as dual citizens in other parts of our government, that they don't need such vicious online support against those who have doubts.
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sevenseas
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well, the NT says Jesus came to His own but they did not receive Him.
now, following that line of thought which even King James the pervert allowed, the Bible is saying the Jews were Jesus' people
your smarmy insults reveal an imaginary status of teacher. a legend in your own mind if you will
you are no teacher; you are simply a KJV only cult follower
calling people Jew worshippers reveals your hatred of the Jewish people and total lack of respect
I can understand your anger though. you have been revealed as a cult member and that really irks you, so you take opportunity to insult and smear wherever you can get your foot in the door
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It's the same in most translations:
Rom 9:8 (NASB] That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants.
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pete9
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How does a character attack on King James have any bearing on that translation, which is clearly the greatest work over the last half-millenia in modern publishing? How can anyone hate the King James Bible? I am not KJV only, but who can possibly doubt that it is one of the most accurate translations available? If you tell me you like the NIV and modern "interpretive" translations, that will help me understand things on this forum a lot better.
Jesus was a Jew so yes he came to his own BLOOD who MURDERED him, and there's nothing wrong with Jews, they just shouldn't be worshipped and given the title "chosen people" when they ARE NOT and NEVER have been God's chosen people.
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pete9
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Also, "Jewish" is a religion. Anyone can do it. It is not the same as being Hebrew. But my question is how come no one can ever criticize that unChristian religion without being mobbed? As aforementioned, they have plenty of political power in this country..basically half the supreme court. Catholics have the other half. What does that mean for protestants? And so that religion has enormous power in this country, but that is not enough..Americans are clearly expected to spend taxpayer money (while other Americans starve on the streets) and shed their very blood and loose their very lives over relatively dodgy and newfangled interpretations of Genesis 12. The next thing you know, you guys will be insisting that we wear those little hats and blow shofars prior to church services. The behavior here certainly looks like worship.
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sevenseas
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you know, your biblical knowledge is pretty scant IMO
Jesus died for the sins of the world
the Jewish people did not murder Jesus.
go study the word. YOU are the reason Jesus had to die and so am I
when someone is so blinded by hatred and prejudice, they seem capable of ignoring the most obvious and doctrinally sound biblical evidence that counters your blind seething hatred
if you think the Jews murdered Christ, then your reasoning is no better than the false claims made during WWII
same type of arguement based on a demonic thought process
How so, God only promised a return to the land under repentance and obedience to Torah, which was made obsolete. Therefore there are no conditions for a return to the land. PERIOD....
The Zionists that took over the land were mainly atheists.
I hope you all will remember that we are not to unite all the religions for world peace... man will die unless they Believe and Repent.
Posing as an angel of light deceiving the masses...... There is only One GOD and one way to be saved... the gate is not wide....
Stand with Israel? Are you also in rebellion to the Almighty GOD? No, then let them bring to pass whatever they will because we know the outcome!
Draw no sword because the battle is won.. Those that live by the sword will die by the sword....it is your eternal life that matters.
Posing as an angel of light deceiving the masses...... There is only One GOD and one way to be saved... the gate is not wide....
Stand with Israel? Are you also in rebellion to the Almighty GOD? No, then let them bring to pass whatever they will because we know the outcome!
Draw no sword because the battle is won.. Those that live by the sword will die by the sword....it is your eternal life that matters.
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pete9
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Old encyclopedias say that Rothschild was the founder of the Zionist movement. Other history suggests that his family was also behind the founding of Weishaupt's group. All of it together, along with this new stuff that is popping up is rather concerning.
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kaylagrl
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1.So here we go. Again you dont wish to discuss you're just telling me what my opinions are and what I do and dont support. Rather smug of you.
2.Once again,broad assumptions,no discussion and pin others with your opinion of what they believe.smh You do realize you cant preach against homosexuality in Canada,right? Why are you not against Canada? In fact you wouldn't be able to preach the Gospel in this country if Hillary won the presidency.When you're ready for honest discussion,let us know.
Yeah, but the problem is with the verses before that verse.
6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel;7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s [d]descendants, but: “[e]through Isaac your [f]descendants will be named.”8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as [g]descendants.
NASB has one to believe that CERTAIN of Abraham's seed, those through the line of Isaac are God's chosen people.
In the KJV there is no "but through Isaac YOUR DESCENDANTS will be named. A HUGE difference from the KJV.
Romans 9:7 KJV
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
"But in Isaac shall THY SEED (Christ) be called. One version is slanted to the Jews and the other is slanted toward Christ... That's why people can't understand why the flesh Jews are not God's chosen people.