The Rapture
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No, it is all about Being READY, Watching for our BRIDEGROOM, because we do not know the Day or Hour. The lesson is that it is TOO LATE to get READY once the Shout Comes.
2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”
2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”
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The Earth = Israel
Mt 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
Christ is already looking ahead to what He is going to do with those who reject Him. He then starts giving a description of what it is going to be like leading up to the final destruction of Jerusalem which exactly matches the "beginnings of sorrows."
[SUP]35 [/SUP]For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; [SUP]36 [/SUP]and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’[SUP][/SUP] [SUP]37 [/SUP]He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. [SUP]38 [/SUP]And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
Later in Mt 12 He discusses the civil war that will be inside the city with the 3 tyrants:
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
Once it is understood that the destruction of the Temple, city and nation is the big enchilada that all the OT were talking about starting with Moses in Deu 28:25- then all of these dire predictions of Christ start really coming into focus.
Then of course the best and most obvious example comes from Lk 19 where it is undeniable that Christ is discussing the pending destruction of Jerusalem at the hands of the Romans. (God almost always uses a foreign army to execute judgment in His Days of the Lord). The discussion that starts here picks up again and goes through Lk 21.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, [SUP]44 [/SUP]and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”
It's because they did not know Him as their Messiah.
Mt 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
Christ is already looking ahead to what He is going to do with those who reject Him. He then starts giving a description of what it is going to be like leading up to the final destruction of Jerusalem which exactly matches the "beginnings of sorrows."
[SUP]35 [/SUP]For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; [SUP]36 [/SUP]and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’[SUP][/SUP] [SUP]37 [/SUP]He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. [SUP]38 [/SUP]And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
Later in Mt 12 He discusses the civil war that will be inside the city with the 3 tyrants:
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
Once it is understood that the destruction of the Temple, city and nation is the big enchilada that all the OT were talking about starting with Moses in Deu 28:25- then all of these dire predictions of Christ start really coming into focus.
Then of course the best and most obvious example comes from Lk 19 where it is undeniable that Christ is discussing the pending destruction of Jerusalem at the hands of the Romans. (God almost always uses a foreign army to execute judgment in His Days of the Lord). The discussion that starts here picks up again and goes through Lk 21.
[SUP]43 [/SUP]For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, [SUP]44 [/SUP]and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.”
It's because they did not know Him as their Messiah.
It's undeniable. Christ came, went to hell and returned... prophecies about that return were fulfilled. He is coming agian. The problem we are all having is not recognizing the prophecies apply to 2 seperate events or comings.
I'm researching the Son of man right now and it seems to me like the Son of man returning from hell makes up the bulk of the prophecies, especially Matthew 24 and Matthew 10.
I'm researching the Son of man right now and it seems to me like the Son of man returning from hell makes up the bulk of the prophecies, especially Matthew 24 and Matthew 10.
The pending invasion of Babylon is in focus here in Zeph 1. Josiah was King when this was written and he ruled until 609 BC, just a few years before the Babylonian invasion. They were to be punished for worshiping Ba'al and Molech (Milcom).
[SUP]4 [/SUP]“I will stretch out My hand against Judah, And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem. I will cut off every trace of Baal from this place, The names of the idolatrous priests with the pagan priests—
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Those who worship the host of heaven on the housetops; Those who worship and swear oaths by the Lord, But who also swear by Milcom...
This pagan worship was the very reason God was sending the Babylonians to slaughter (sacrifice) them. 70 years in Babylon broke them of this horrible idol worship.
Come on, Dude!!
[SUP]4 [/SUP]“I will stretch out My hand against Judah, And against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem. I will cut off every trace of Baal from this place, The names of the idolatrous priests with the pagan priests—
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Those who worship the host of heaven on the housetops; Those who worship and swear oaths by the Lord, But who also swear by Milcom...
This pagan worship was the very reason God was sending the Babylonians to slaughter (sacrifice) them. 70 years in Babylon broke them of this horrible idol worship.
Come on, Dude!!
I had never heard of the 70 ad thing either till I came here. Didn't put much stock in it at first, but am slowly coming around to think maybe there is something to it. But I still believe that even if prophecy was fulfilled in 70 ad it will be again in the future.
The Messiah was promised to the Jews. They rejected Him, and suffered for it.
Then the Christ was offered to the Gentiles. They are now rejecting Him, and will suffer for it.
The Messiah was promised to the Jews. They rejected Him, and suffered for it.
Then the Christ was offered to the Gentiles. They are now rejecting Him, and will suffer for it.
If things are in the past, they are in the past. The events foretold happened after they were foretold. Does it matter if they happened shortly after or a long time after? We all believe essentially in the same events although disagree on some of their meanings and scopes. Everyone in Isaiah's day thought he was crazy, running around naked, etc. Come to think of it, David did that too. At least I'm keeping my clothes on, which all would be grateful, trust me
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Not knowing history is the problem many are having. The other problem is not knowing figurative language and being stuck to an ideology regardless of evidence to the contrary. Seeing fulfillment and proving it with scripture and the historical record is NOT A CULT. Believing in a Satan inspired fantasy is much closer to a cult.
.Not knowing history is the problem many are having. The other problem is not knowing figurative language and being stuck to an ideology regardless of evidence to the contrary. Seeing fulfillment and proving it with scripture and the historical record is NOT A CULT. Believing in a Satan inspired fantasy is much closer to a cult.
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They are the same, but here is the definitive difference.
JESUS the Man comes for HIS BRIDE to take her to the WEDDING in HIS FATHER's House.
JESUS, GOD in the Flesh, comes to FIGHT the Nations, taking His Rightful place on the THRONE OF DAVID ruling the Earth for a thousand years.
Whether you believe they are Seven Years apart or Seven minutes apart; they are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS at TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.
If things are in the past, they are in the past. The events foretold happened after they were foretold. Does it matter if they happened shortly after or a long time after? We all believe essentially in the same events although disagree on some of their meanings and scopes. Everyone in Isaiah's day thought he was crazy, running around naked, etc. Come to think of it, David did that too. At least I'm keeping my clothes on, which all would be grateful, trust me.
Not knowing history is the problem many are having. The other problem is not knowing figurative language and being stuck to an ideology regardless of evidence to the contrary. Seeing fulfillment and proving it with scripture and the historical record is NOT A CULT. Believing in a Satan inspired fantasy is much closer to a cult.
.Not knowing history is the problem many are having. The other problem is not knowing figurative language and being stuck to an ideology regardless of evidence to the contrary. Seeing fulfillment and proving it with scripture and the historical record is NOT A CULT. Believing in a Satan inspired fantasy is much closer to a cult.
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