Not By Works

[royalscot]

i said any fool can write a post.

and wrote, a slanderer with no proof , saying you do not get it. by using slander, without proof to back up, what they slandered . etc


if your going to ignore, everything and pick out, what you want to respond to is your problem.


Definition of slander. 1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation. 2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person — compare libel.

take that up, with the definition to the meaning of cut off,(for misrepresentations of scripture.)

by the new covenant.

 

[JIMBO43]

i said any fool can be write a post.

and wrote, a slanderer with no proof , saying you do not get it. by using slander, with out proof to back up, what they slandered . etc


if your going to ignore, everything and pick out, what you want to respond to is your problem.


Definition of slander. 1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation. 2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person — compare libel.

take that up, with the definition cut off,(for misrepresentations of scripture.)

if you adhere to all this then how come you havent once defended any dogmas i have not supported ? is it because you think your royal and im not ?..........

i see ow it is

 

[JIMBO43]

Originally Posted by royalscot

you just proved, any fool can write a post, and grind there teeth with no authority,

a slanderer with no proof, saying you don t get it.

You call me a fool? I just read the forum rules ..I suggest you learn to communicate without name calling....if you have a point let's us debate it..maybe we agree..maybe we dont?

yup royal pack of ciggerettes puffing out smoke..

 

[JIMBO43]

He does speak to dead bone and makes them alive again...

Yeah just a side comment. I agree those folks are alive now.

lol you know what i ment...... i was wondering when someone would mention this.. what i ment was your dead unless god raises you back to life... he doest speak to you whilst your dead.

 

[JIMBO43]

I think Jimbo is referring to Heaevnly Jerusalem when he says "promised land" in reference to Moses entering into God's rest, not the earthly version spoken of in this scripture.

I also believe Moses is in Heaven with Jesus now and not asleep as some say.

Revelation shows us this.

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Revelation 6

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. 10They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothersc should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

yup you would be right..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

what law do you use to give you knowledge of sin.

14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the lawRomans 2

I do not use any law. I seek after the things of the spirit, and I will not fulfill the lust of the flesh (sin) I follow 2 commands, Love the lord my God, and my neighbor. Thats all I need. trying to follow any other law will give you at most a false sense of security. or a false sense of insecurity. It can not make you righteous. Never could.

 

[Mitspa]

i said any fool can write a post.

and wrote, a slanderer with no proof , saying you do not get it. by using slander, without proof to back up, what they slandered . etc


if your going to ignore, everything and pick out, what you want to respond to is your problem.


Definition of slander. 1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation. 2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person — compare libel.

take that up, with the definition to the meaning of cut off,(for misrepresentations of scripture.)

by the new covenant.

Any honest person can see your intentions in that post..as I said. .you should learn to communicate without all the insults...if hope the moderators will help you understand the rules better

 

[stonesoffire]

Law and grace debate was THE big topic in Pauls establishment of the gospel and the church, it will be until the end. The law gives power to satan (the accuser) and he knows that better than anyone.

That is powerful. Satan is the accuser and he's not just a false accuser but a true accuser. All our failings he will bring up if he can. That's the power and beauty of the grace of God. He can't if we understand that Jesus has taken care of all sin. And the very nature of it.

 

[Mitspa]

I have not been on the site in a while..but we did not just call people fool a few months ago without getting some sort of rebuke from the mods...no need for that kind of behavior in my view

 

[Mitspa]

That is powerful. Satan is the accuser and he's not just a false accuser but a true accuser. All our failings he will bring up if he can. That's the power and beauty of the grace of God. He can't if we understand that Jesus has taken care of all sin. And the very nature of it.

Amen..his name literally means "accuser" who wants the law and it's condemnation in the church more than the accuser?

 

[JIMBO43]

yup every balloon ,with air can be burst.


28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.Hebrews 9:


Galatians 5: Christ Has Set Us Free
1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace

ah atlas but have you read this
[h=1]Isaiah 11:11-12King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]11 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.


tell me how on earth will isreal reign again in the last days ? without a battle ?

 

[stonesoffire]

Amen..his name literally means "accuser" who wants the law and it's condemnation in the church more than the accuser?

truth!

I think you are being misunderstood by some. And I don't know why. lol

 

[JIMBO43]

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Try again....he did not make it...was allowed to view it before his death from a mountain top and then died.....

He made it to heaven and that is the only promised land that truly matters.

amen sister welcome to the club..

 

[stonesoffire]

Mitspa

I just want to say welcome even though you aren't new. I am. Just haven't had the pleasure of reading you.

 

[stonesoffire]

Thank you for the rep comment.

You should post more often blue...there's lots of water in that well.

 

[JIMBO43]

I will write my law on their hearts? That's the Spirit of God that shows us God's love and we love others with His love..that's all the law fulfilled in love...

so the first order didnt work for all the second order works for some but not all will there be a third order ?

 

[JIMBO43]

Jesus work freed me from the law of sin and death. My work will never free me from one sin, let alone all I have commited.

Paul said in romans one man had knowledge from the begining that sin was sin, and knew they were rightly judged for it, Paul speaks of the gentile who have no law. by nature doing what is in the law (because the law is written in our hearts)

You might need the law. But I was saved from the law. The law has no more power over me, or use to me. t has done its job in me.

have you ever looked on the flip side for what work does to a man who is a couch patato with probably 5 years left to live with his current state of affairs ?

 

[dcontroversal]

New International Version 1984 Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

And who doubts this imperative command to make as we are going.......what is your point? I for one am sick of the workers for saying we push a do nothing faith....we have never said nor implied that....just that the works DO NOT SAVE OR KEEP SAVED!

 

[JIMBO43]

Not sure how to answer this.

All I known is that I am a beloved child of God because that is what He tells me and I believe Him.

Fyi...in waiting room of the eye doctor.

well since there molicules of life baring carbon molecules floating in space one of the eliments of life.. you can bet your last dollar they will one day form a new earth with a new order lol

 

[dcontroversal]

Not the issue..."blessed is the man in whom the Lord WILL NOT impute sin" that's the true debate...do people believe the evident words of the New Testament ?

I do....And David said....Blessed is the man to whom God imputes righteousness without the deeds of the law.....