Is God's Word Inerrant

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Desertsrose

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From bible dot org.

James Boice (Does Inerrancy Matter? [International Council on Biblical Inerrancy], p. 9) told of a gathering of ministers where an evangelical pastor argued a point based on the Bible’s teaching. He referred to Jesus’ words and to His promise to return.



When he had finished, a professor from a leading Protestant seminary stood up to counter what the pastor had said. He said, “You cannot appeal to the teaching of Jesus Christ, because we do not know what Jesus really taught. The Gospels are contradictory at this point. Each of them has been written to correct the others. So far as Christ’s return is concerned, we have simply got to get it into our heads that Jesus is never coming back and that all things are going to continue on as they have from the beginning.”


Dr. Boice added that it would be nice to think that such views are held only by a few liberals. But he cited a survey of over 7,400 clergymen in five major denominations. One question was, “Do you believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God?” This was not asking whether they believed the Bible to be without any error, but rather only if they believed the Bible to be inspired by God in some undefined sense. But in spite of the level at which the question was asked, 82% of the Methodists, 89% of the Episcopalians, 81% of the United Presbyterians, 57% of the Lutherans, and 57% of the Baptists answered, “No”! Dr. Boice wrote that booklet in 1979. I would guess that things have not improved much, if at all, in the three postmodern decades since then.
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Can you imagine what it must be like now? Now, 38 years later, what percentage would say no God's word in not inerrant. And what are these pastors teaching their congregation?


The way is narrow indeed and few there will be who find it because these pastors make the way to God wide and broad because they don't believe the Scriptures as absolute truth.


It would be interesting if each one of us asked our pastors/elders if they believe God's word is inerrant.
 
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From bible dot org.

James Boice (Does Inerrancy Matter? [International Council on Biblical Inerrancy], p. 9) told of a gathering of ministers where an evangelical pastor argued a point based on the Bible’s teaching. He referred to Jesus’ words and to His promise to return.



When he had finished, a professor from a leading Protestant seminary stood up to counter what the pastor had said. He said, “You cannot appeal to the teaching of Jesus Christ, because we do not know what Jesus really taught. The Gospels are contradictory at this point. Each of them has been written to correct the others. So far as Christ’s return is concerned, we have simply got to get it into our heads that Jesus is never coming back and that all things are going to continue on as they have from the beginning.”


Dr. Boice added that it would be nice to think that such views are held only by a few liberals. But he cited a survey of over 7,400 clergymen in five major denominations. One question was, “Do you believe the Bible to be the inspired Word of God?” This was not asking whether they believed the Bible to be without any error, but rather only if they believed the Bible to be inspired by God in some undefined sense. But in spite of the level at which the question was asked, 82% of the Methodists, 89% of the Episcopalians, 81% of the United Presbyterians, 57% of the Lutherans, and 57% of the Baptists answered, “No”! Dr. Boice wrote that booklet in 1979. I would guess that things have not improved much, if at all, in the three postmodern decades since then.
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Can you imagine what it must be like now? Now, 38 years later, what percentage would say no God's word in not inerrant. And what are these pastors teaching their congregation?


The way is narrow indeed and few there will be who find it because these pastors make the way to God wide and broad because they don't believe the Scriptures as absolute truth.


It would be interesting if each one of us asked our pastors/elders if they believe God's word is inerrant.
If God's Word is not inerrant than it is of no value and should be avoided.
I believe it is total arrogance for any person to believe he/she has the intellect to judge what is true and what is not true when it comes to God's Word.
Believe it all or reject it all.
 
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Since you could post certain verses right here, right now, and get several differing interpretations, we have to realize that none of us can, without a doubt, that what we are reading is what God intended. Therefore, it is foolish to make a statement about what we assume is "God's word" being inerrant.

That may be why the Bible never says God's word is inerrant.
 
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sevenseas

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why would the Bible need to say it is inerrant when it says it is the INSPIRED word of God?

some people like to skirt around the edge of truth to come up with someone new and exciting rather than live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God

and of course we can dicker about words all day long

and that's why this forum is so popular
 

Nehemiah6

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But in spite of the level at which the question was asked, 82% of the Methodists, 89% of the Episcopalians, 81% of the United Presbyterians, 57% of the Lutherans, and 57% of the Baptists answered, “No”!

This is a clear indication of how apostasy has come into almost all the churches, and since this was from some time back, it has only grown worse. So to every Christian today, the message is clear -- Caveat Emptor (Let the Buyer Beware).
 
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why would the Bible need to say it is inerrant when it says it is the INSPIRED
Have you ever been inspired to do something? Was your performance (or interpretation) perfect? Men wrote the Bible, and got God's message across, but that does not mean what they wrote was perfect.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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God's Word is inerrant...


but none of us are even close
 

loveme1

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In GOD we trust to ensure we have what we need.

I will adhere unto death....

Someone told me once man had written the Bible to control people... I told them man did not do a good job since it condemns man..

They looked bewildered.... and went quiet.
 
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sevenseas

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Have you ever been inspired to do something? Was your performance (or interpretation) perfect? Men wrote the Bible, and got God's message across, but that does not mean what they wrote was perfect.

and I didn't say anything about perfect now did I???

and you know that

I said INSPIRED which the Bible itself says

don't play games
 
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and I didn't say anything about perfect now did I???

and you know that

I said INSPIRED which the Bible itself says

don't play games
What do you think "inerrant" (without error) means, anyway?
 

Nehemiah6

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That may be why the Bible never says God's word is inerrant.
Perhaps not with that particular terminology.

But since the Bible says that EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE and that ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED that should suffice.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Proverbs 30:5,6).

All scripture is given by inspiration of God [Greek theopneustos = God-breathed], and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2 Timothy 3:16)
 
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All anyone needs to do is turn to Luke 14:26 to see that some interpreters wrote what is in TOTAL error by today's reading.

There is not one person here who can truthfully say they did not have to have that verse explained to them before they understood Jesus was NOT saying we had to have hatred in our hearts for our entire families. And yet we have several people here who will emphatically tell us that particular wording is exactly what God intended for us to read.

Now, you may hate everyone in your family, but I do not. I do, however, hold God above them..... but if no one had ever told me that is what Luke14:26 meant, I would never know.

I call that an error that "inspired" translators wrote right into the text you and I read from.
 
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GaryA

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When he had finished, a professor from a leading Protestant seminary stood up to counter what the pastor had said. He said, “You cannot appeal to the teaching of Jesus Christ, because we do not know what Jesus really taught. The Gospels are contradictory at this point. Each of them has been written to correct the others. So far as Christ’s return is concerned, we have simply got to get it into our heads that Jesus is never coming back and that all things are going to continue on as they have from the beginning.”
2 Peter 3:

[SUP]3[/SUP] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, [SUP]4[/SUP] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.



"There does not appear to be any error here..." ;):D
 
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trofimus

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This is quite a hard question.

There are two extremes - one group that believes that every word we have today is inerrant and perfectly preserved (like the KJV Only group), which is not true.

Then there is another extreme - to say we cannot trust the Bible at all.

I personally think that what we have today is changed compared to originals and it depends what part we are talking about. Most changes and later additions are in the Old Testament.

But even in the NT we have quite a lot of uncertain places.

The next question is - do we have to have something what is the same as originals or does God have a plan about His word to be dynamic and grow with the Church? I believe so.
 
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BeyondET

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Perhaps not with that particular terminology.

But since the Bible says that EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE and that ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED that should suffice.

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Proverbs 30:5,6).

All scripture is given by inspiration of God [Greek theopneustos = God-breathed], and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2 Timothy 3:16)
Yes the word of God the living God, the word in your heart when He speaks to people.

The bible was inspired and was allowed to be written with the inspiree own language, and translated to language to language by the inspiree own words. sometimes those didn't quite get translated rightly, thus below is a example of that, Zachriah spoke these words and was recorded in the book of Jeremiah aka book of prophets and as well that prophet isn't named Jeremy, that is just a English short name for Jeremiah.

Matt 27:9
King James Bible
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
 
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It is very important to know that the English Bibles we read contain all sorts of passages that can easily be read in error. If we all knew every word of the Bible, and perhaps studied it from original manuscripts, that might not be the case for us. But, unfortunately, I see clearly that hundreds of posts here ask about ONE PARTICULAR VERSE, and no more. Therefore, those people are taking singularly selected verses as "God's word" and often getting the original intent just as messed up as the Westboro Baptist people do when the claim their hatred comes directly from the pages of the "inerrant" Bible.
 
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BeyondET

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1611 KJV first addition had errors, the he and she bible, God does things right the first time.

Still has errors punctuation errors, like this. ), and others as well as another below the law wasn't given by Moses but through Moses big difference in meaning.

KJV
John 1:17 is another instance of a poor preposition. "By" should be "through": "For the law was given by [through] Moses . . . ." Moses did not proclaim his law, but God's Law.