Is God's Word Inerrant

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BeyondET

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Yup, pretty much why one finds a slew of Aramaic wording in the Greek and Hebrew old bibles, I think someone was speaking and writing in that dialog. Not many Hebrew "Ben" statements in the NT, but one can sure find a lot of Aramaic "Bar" in it.
 
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BeyondET

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BeyondET said:
An angel swooped down and stirred the waters in the pool, yea ok...
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Ahhh, why not I'll debate myself lol

You mean to tell me that John 5:4 wasn't in any manuscripts before 500AD how did this happened?
 
Denadii

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Actually, John 3 has some meanings that simply do not carry through into English, and Nicodemus misinterpreted what Jesus was saying.

"Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again (a) he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3

"Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again (a).’" John 3:7

What you wrote gave me the impression that Jesus or someone was speaking English there. :)
 
Grace777x70

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We all pretty much agree that the Holy Spirit inspired men to write the scriptures.

Here is some thing that makes me ponder things.

Hebrews 4:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: "AND GOD RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS";


The Holy Spirit inspired the writer of Hebrews to say that " God has said somewhere".....most of us want the exact place where it is written but the Holy Spirit here says "God has said somewhere...."

It would appear that the Holy Spirit is not as concerned about some things that us men are.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
We all pretty much agree that the Holy Spirit inspired men to write the scriptures.

Here is some thing that makes me ponder things.

Hebrews 4:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: "AND GOD RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS";


The Holy Spirit inspired the writer of Hebrews to say that " God has said somewhere".....most of us want the exact place where it is written but the Holy Spirit here says "God has said somewhere...."

It would appear that the Holy Spirit is not as concerned about some things that us men are.
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"God has said somewhere"......Ever gone prospecting for gold? Or gems? That gives us an opportunity to do just that.
 
Bookends

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Nehemiah6 said:
There is a difference between "correction" and "clarification". Paul's primary goal was to preach the Gospel and bring souls to Christ. That did not mean that other important things such as baptism and discipling would be neglected. His companions and helpers were fully involved in the whole gamut of Christian ministry.


Well think about it this way. Can something really be true if it is full of errors of fact or doctrine (beliefs)? And if inerrancy should only be limited to the original autographs, then Christians are worse off than Muslims (and others) who staunchly believe that their holy books are free from error. The fact is that God also PRESERVED His Word in such a way that 95-99% of all documents pertaining to Scripture agree with each other (barring minor differences). This has also allowed textual scholars to determine which manuscripts are corrupt and should be discarded (and they are but a handful).
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I think you misunderstand me. It the NT was inerrant, then Paul shouldn't had made a mistake about who he baptistezed, he should have gotten it right the first time.

I actual believe the whole bible is 100% agreeable with itself, it is us that can't interpret the so called "contradictions" correctly. You can have complete truth without it being "God breathed". "God Breathed" to me means God said it, dictated it to a prophet or person, or maybe even under the strict guidance of the Holy Spirit. I believe you can have true spoken without it being "God Breathed" but you can have something spoken under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, were someone would speak the truth in their own words (not a direct revelation from God).
 
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Bookends said:
I think you misunderstand me. It the NT was inerrant, then Paul shouldn't had made a mistake about who he baptistezed, he should have gotten it right the first time.
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Paul didn't make a mistake concerning who he had baptized. That, and your argument is absurd and false.
 
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Paul didn't make a mistake concerning who he had baptized. That, and your argument is absurd and false.
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1 Corinthians 1:

[FONT=&quot]14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]15 lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot]16 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas.
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Bookends said:
1 Corinthians 1:

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. 16 Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas.

Paul corrected himself in verse 16.
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I should have read the text, so thanks for the reminder.

Let me put it this way: Simply because Paul mentions baptisms and then recollects further into the letter others doesn't equate to error in Scripture itself. Mentioning a human error in Biblical writ does not make the Scriptures errant or detract from inerrancy. Furthermore he recounts his baptisms and adds to the list of those he recalls baptizing.

Perhaps you could use, as all of us, a refresher course in biblical inerrancy.
 
EarnestQ

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The Bible is not the Word of God, therefore God's word is inerrant but the Bible has a few minor errors that do not change the meaning of the message.

God's Word (capitalized) is Jesus Messiah. His life was God's communication of salvation to us. God's word (lower case) is the preaching that one can be saved by faith in Jesus alone. (Do a Bible study on the Word of God to see if what I say is true.)

I can provide a short list of minor errors in the Bible if desired.
 
Joidevivre

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When you see God revealed in the scriptures....

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John 5:4, is quite troubling how this happened?

King James Bible
For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole.
 
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