Pot Smokers Beware

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I have a question....God made every herb bearing seed.....how does weed fit in? What does all things are lawful but not necessarily expedient mean? Just adki g questions here.....IT IS WHAT comes from a man that defiles a man right? And for the Preacher....where did weed come from if not made by God?
 

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Well, the Devil sure didn't make it, that's for sure. All plant life is made by God,and without God, nothing was made.The uses of all plants came by trial and error to see what was good and what to use it for. It's potency serves a purpose. But if that plant or herb does not work for you ,then you don't use it. It is not beneficial , or does nothing for you, then don't use it. And since it is against the law, it is not beneficial. A wicked heart speaks wicked words, and a good heart speaks good words.
 
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I have a few questions.
Why do you smoke pot?
How do you justify breaking the law when you buy pot?
If or when you are caught and go to jail, how is that a testimony of Jesus?
 

Billyd

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God gave gave us every seed bearing plant to use on earth, to make iy illegal is an unchristian thought you might want to pick up your bible to see what god says instead of your preacher
There are twenty plus toxic plants growing on my 20 acre plot. Five of them are deadly. Yes, God gave man all plants to eat, but he also gave man common sense to know when a plant is toxic. If you eat one of them, it you will be very sick and/or die a sometimes painful death. You may want to read the rest of the Bible story.

I have a sister, a few years older than you. She has been a recreational pot smoker since she was 16 years old. I won't go into the detrimental effect that it has had on her health, but I will tell you that, she is the youngest of six, she looks like she is at least ten years older than me. I am the oldest. Maybe you should reconsider whether or not God is happy about your addition to pot.
 

Jimbone

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He sure did, and the context of that half quoted twisted Scripture is according to what usage? That's right, FOOD, not smoking weed, Genesis 1:29.
Well if you want to get really technical you can eat it and get high, what about that? Here's my personal view on it, and I speak as someone that absolutely LOVES weed and has since I first tried it at 15.

I smoked everyday since I was 15, save days I was locked up and a little while trying to get off a pain pill addiction. I honestly don't see the act of smoking a joint as sinful. First of all like the guy said before God gave us everything on earth to have and enjoy responsibly, also in
Tim 4:4
"3 They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, 5 because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

There are a few more verses I could use, but I am not simply trying to "justify" my own weed use or anyone elses, just trying to share my journey thus far. That all said I have put it down and no longer use it now, mostly because I didn't use it "every now and then", I smoked everyday from sun up to the time I went to sleep. It was no doubt a false idol in my life, even after a radical conversion. I also very much believe in the sanctification talked about in this thread too.

It really came down to this, first I really knew I smoked way too much, second I knew that I would never be able to just smoke every now and then, and third and most important I prayed and felt like God pretty much told me "If you want Me to use you to your full potential it's time to put it down, if you want to stay where you are then keep smoking. I'll still love you, you're still saved, but if you want Me to use you then it's time to let go". So when I hear "I don't see how anyone can smoke and call yourself a Christian" I have to strongly disagree with that because I did smoke and I was a Christian. How can you judge someones salvation in that way and call yourself a Christian? See how easy it is to do that?

I personally made the choice I want to serve God and be as effective a witness as He can make me, but that's my walk with Him and I don't project my walk or actions onto others like I know what they should be doing or where there walk with Him is at this point. Within a week of putting it down I was confronted with an opportunity to go to the local county jail to minister to the inmates, started helping out in Sunday School, and had a few friend that came to town and I got to talk with. It was just God confirming what He told me. I guess my whole point is that I feel smoking is lawful but not beneficial, at least to me, and even more than that I never wanted it to cause anyone to stumble. Like if I'm sharing the gospel and someone is really into it and then finds out I smoke then just writes me off as another hypocritical Christian and just turns away. So I guess in ways I agree with everyone on both sides of this debate. Man am I going liberal?
 
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Well if you want to get really technical you can eat it and get high, what about that? Here's my personal view on it, and I speak as someone that absolutely LOVES weed and has since I first tried it at 15.

I smoked everyday since I was 15, save days I was locked up and a little while trying to get off a pain pill addiction. I honestly don't see the act of smoking a joint as sinful. First of all like the guy said before God gave us everything on earth to have and enjoy responsibly, also in
Tim 4:4
"3 They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, 5 because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."

There are a few more verses I could use, but I am not simply trying to "justify" my own weed use or anyone elses, just trying to share my journey thus far. That all said I have put it down and no longer use it now, mostly because I didn't use it "every now and then", I smoked everyday from sun up to the time I went to sleep. It was no doubt a false idol in my life, even after a radical conversion. I also very much believe in the sanctification talked about in this thread too.

It really came down to this, first I really knew I smoked way too much, second I knew that I would never be able to just smoke every now and then, and third and most important I prayed and felt like God pretty much told me "If you want Me to use you to your full potential it's time to put it down, if you want to stay where you are then keep smoking. I'll still love you, you're still saved, but if you want Me to use you then it's time to let go". So when I hear "I don't see how anyone can smoke and call yourself a Christian" I have to strongly disagree with that because I did smoke and I was a Christian. How can you judge someones salvation in that way and call yourself a Christian? See how easy it is to do that?

I personally made the choice I want to serve God and be as effective a witness as He can make me, but that's my walk with Him and I don't project my walk or actions onto others like I know what they should be doing or where there walk with Him is at this point. Within a week of putting it down I was confronted with an opportunity to go to the local county jail to minister to the inmates, started helping out in Sunday School, and had a few friend that came to town and I got to talk with. It was just God confirming what He told me. I guess my whole point is that I feel smoking is lawful but not beneficial, at least to me, and even more than that I never wanted it to cause anyone to stumble. Like if I'm sharing the gospel and someone is really into it and then finds out I smoke then just writes me off as another hypocritical Christian and just turns away. So I guess in ways I agree with everyone on both sides of this debate. Man am I going liberal?
Why do you need to get high?
So you see no sin in breaking the law?
Are those your kids in the pic?
Do you allow them to smoke weed or do you smoke in their presence?
What will you say to those kids or other Christians if you are arrested and go to jail?
 

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Marijuana was legal until 1937. The federal Narcotics Division was about to lose its funding so they needed a new drug to demonize. They made up a scare story about Mexican immigrants smoking weed and becoming homicidal. And it's been illegal ever since except in a few states
 

Jimbone

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Why do you need to get high?
So you see no sin in breaking the law?
Are those your kids in the pic?
Do you allow them to smoke weed or do you smoke in their presence?
What will you say to those kids or other Christians if you are arrested and go to jail?
1.First I never said I or anyone "needs" to get high, strawman.
2.It's not illegal everywhere, so where it is then yes you have a point that can be seen as a sin.
3.Two of them are the smallest is my nephew.
4.I will raise them to make informed decisions to the best of my ability. While they are young then no of course I will not "let" them smoke any more than one would "let" there young kids drink. While I never did it in front of them when my oldest asked me about if I did smoke. I didn't lie or hide it from him, I told him the truth.
5.I don't know, I haven't faced that situation, nor will I now that I DON'T DO IT anymore, but hypothetically if it happen I would speak the truth and face whatever I had to face at the time I had to face it.

Now that my interview is done let me ask you, do you drink? If not good for you, if you do then answer the same questions please. Pretend it was during Prohibition for the legal questions, and since some of your questions where hypothetical to me then no cop outs.

I would also like to ask what authority do you have to tell anyone what they should or should not do or how they should think? Seeing as we all have a God given freedom to chose, and none of us has the power to make anyone do anything, who are you to say "you should share my views?" (well not "say" it, but insinuate it)
 
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1.First I never said I or anyone "needs" to get high, strawman.
2.It's not illegal everywhere, so where it is then yes you have a point that can be seen as a sin.
3.Two of them are the smallest is my nephew.
4.I will raise them to make informed decisions to the best of my ability. While they are young then no of course I will not "let" them smoke any more than one would "let" there young kids drink. While I never did it in front of them when my oldest asked me about if I did smoke. I didn't lie or hide it from him, I told him the truth.
5.I don't know, I haven't faced that situation, nor will I now that I DON'T DO IT anymore, but hypothetically if it happen I would speak the truth and face whatever I had to face at the time I had to face it.

Now that my interview is done let me ask you, do you drink? If not good for you, if you do then answer the same questions please. Pretend it was during Prohibition for the legal questions, and since some of your questions where hypothetical to me then no cop outs.

I would also like to ask what authority do you have to tell anyone what they should or should not do or how they should think? Seeing as we all have a God given freedom to chose, and none of us has the power to make anyone do anything, who are you to say "you should share my views?" (well not "say" it, but insinuate it)
It is a federal crime.
No, I do not drink or use tobacco and never have. Just never had the desire.
That is not to say I am better than you or anyone else.
 
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I cant wait until it is legalized nation wide
I agree,
In Colorado the amount of crime for weed has gone down dramatically, and we are getting a lot more money.
I haven't seen a negative environmental impact here,
Honestly I've only seen good.
Now, I wouldn't smoke it, but it's kinda like the Tabacco industry. Think about how much money would be lost if we got rid of that
 
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And anyone caught with it should be prosecuted.
I have trouble understanding how anyone who smokes pot calls themselves a Christian.
Separation of church and state.
Not everyone are Christians. And whether or not you smoke weed does not tell whether or not you are a Christian. It is bad for your health (most of the time) but that does not mean you cannot be a Christian
 

Jimbone

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It is a federal crime.
No, I do not drink or use tobacco and never have. Just never had the desire.
That is not to say I am better than you or anyone else.
Well that's awesome and praise God for that, I've never personally met anyone that can honestly say that, but can you answer the last part where I asked
"I would also like to ask what authority do you have to tell anyone what they should or should not do or how they should or should not think? Seeing as we all have a God given freedom to chose, and none of us has the power to make anyone do anything, who are you to say "you should share my views?" (well not "say" it, but insinuate it)"
Thanks.
 
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Well that's awesome and praise God for that, I've never personally met anyone that can honestly say that, but can you answer the last part where I asked
"I would also like to ask what authority do you have to tell anyone what they should or should not do or how they should or should not think? Seeing as we all have a God given freedom to chose, and none of us has the power to make anyone do anything, who are you to say "you should share my views?" (well not "say" it, but insinuate it)"
Thanks.
I have no authority and did not mean to say I did.
I gave my opinion and probable should have said that.
If my understand is correct, Jesus never broke any government law if it did not violate God's law.
If we are to follow His example we should do the same.
Many verses speaks of us being sober ( cleared minded ), so to use anything that in any way impairs our judgment should be avoided.
Using alcohol and weed will impair our judgment.
Tobacco is bad for our health.
Yes you have free choice and your smoking weed has nothing to do with your salvation, it can harm your Christian witness to the lost. The same can be said about alcohol, tobacco and many other act that we do.
SO---I personally do not understand why any Christian would use weed, alcohol, tobacco, cheat on their taxes, use profanity, etc.
Also----I do not think I am better than anyone who does. I have many faults.
Just my opinion brother.
 

jenniferand2

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4000 illegal farms in one county and county supervisor will be happy to get 400 regulated. I hate to say it, but that's just plain pathetic.

I can only imagine what toxins have made it into the supply chain from the US grown pot. Then there's south of the border where there are absolutely no controls over how it's grown.
i am more worried about the pot going around that is laced with fenyntol on purpose along with other crap.... I have read articles on this as a big thing to get people hooked on doing Heroin.. Most people don't even know their pot is laced with it sigh... what ever happened to getting some good cona bud and just having a good buzz without fearing for your life... Glad I don't smoke pot anymore. Have not for years and years..