Works With Faith Does Not Make Saving Faith
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Okay bear with me then...can something be dead before it was ever alive?
James knew one is saved by faith, he would not be contradicting the gospel message that was clearly taught by Paul.
So would it not stand to reason that he is addressing those whose faith is no longer active?
It was once alive but now it is dead?
Of course if these people's faith has died, faith being action with confidence in one's belief, meaning they were no longer acting on their belief with confidence, it cannot be an empty profession of faith really.
It is.... a saved person who is no longer putting His faith to work.
Salvation as a singular event must be separated out by the faith that works in Christ.
Works performed in Christ invigorate our faith this is why He is making this link.
He makes the analogy here, James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead
If that life giving spirit has left the body, that body was alive before it left?
James knew one is saved by faith, he would not be contradicting the gospel message that was clearly taught by Paul.
So would it not stand to reason that he is addressing those whose faith is no longer active?
It was once alive but now it is dead?
Of course if these people's faith has died, faith being action with confidence in one's belief, meaning they were no longer acting on their belief with confidence, it cannot be an empty profession of faith really.
It is.... a saved person who is no longer putting His faith to work.
Salvation as a singular event must be separated out by the faith that works in Christ.
Works performed in Christ invigorate our faith this is why He is making this link.
He makes the analogy here, James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead
If that life giving spirit has left the body, that body was alive before it left?
I see nothing in James 2 that implies faith was alive and then it died. In regards to James 2:26, the comparison of the human spirit and faith converges around their modes of operation. The spirit (Greek pneuma) may also be translated "breath." As a breathless body emits no indication of life, so fruitless faith exhibits no indication of life. The source of the life in faith is not the works; rather, life in faith is the source of the works.
Yes,If the spirit Is not In the body,then the body Is dead and for faith to be shown to men,It will be shown through the body.
Show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith by my works.
A person can not show their faith to men without their works.
GOD looks at the heart but men look at the outward appearances.
Show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith by my works.
A person can not show their faith to men without their works.
GOD looks at the heart but men look at the outward appearances.
Born dead in our tressappases and sins without a living hope or a living God
No it was never alive and is why it is called “dead faith”. It is impossible to separate faith from works and expect anything to appear.
Charging James against Paul will not bring life to a dead faith .
Those in the Hebrews six boat were offering faith towards God making the faith of or coming from God without effect.
Towards is the key to understanding that verse.
They crucified Christ over and over every time they did offer their dead faith towards God. We that are made alive receiving His living faith towards us .It is that faith that does work in us to both will and do His good pleasure (imputed righteousness) not of our selves that we could offer toward Him. Again it is from Him, of Him, to Him
It must be determined whose faith is in view and who works to bring it to whom.?
It must be determine seeing we have one master. The faith of God, as the things of God . Or the faith of men the (imgainations of their own hearts)as the things of men .
The Apostate Jews repeatedly turned it upside down and re-crucified Christ in their minds every time they felt them self falling short of the glory of God. (I forgive myself, I forgive myself, I forgive myself, )over and over subjecting Christ to public shame as if one demonstration felt short of the glosy of men who do glory in their own flesh .
No it was never alive and is why it is called “dead faith”. It is impossible to separate faith from works and expect anything to appear.
Charging James against Paul will not bring life to a dead faith .
Those in the Hebrews six boat were offering faith towards God making the faith of or coming from God without effect.
Towards is the key to understanding that verse.
They crucified Christ over and over every time they did offer their dead faith towards God. We that are made alive receiving His living faith towards us .It is that faith that does work in us to both will and do His good pleasure (imputed righteousness) not of our selves that we could offer toward Him. Again it is from Him, of Him, to Him
It must be determined whose faith is in view and who works to bring it to whom.?
It must be determine seeing we have one master. The faith of God, as the things of God . Or the faith of men the (imgainations of their own hearts)as the things of men .
The Apostate Jews repeatedly turned it upside down and re-crucified Christ in their minds every time they felt them self falling short of the glory of God. (I forgive myself, I forgive myself, I forgive myself, )over and over subjecting Christ to public shame as if one demonstration felt short of the glosy of men who do glory in their own flesh .
Then when you put it that way about being a light to the world; a witness of our faith in Jesus Christ, then that is different than saying one needs work to have saving faith... to prove that you have saving faith not just to others, but to yourselves.
The fact that we believe in Him and that God has raised Him from the dead is saving faith, because faith in Jesus Christ without works has saved us. If someone just got saved but died soon after.... he or she is with the Lord.
I heard of an event when a born again believer died in water baptism. I cannot fathom how that could happen other than whomoever was baptizing him was trying to remember how it goes... "I baptize you in the name of the Father and the Son.. and the...uhh... umm.. no wait... I'll get it... uhhh... of what was it....no.. don't tell me .. it is coming to me... " and then the guy drowned. I do not know what had actually happened, but my wacky imagination did run wild when hearing about that. Did he forget to inhale to hold it before being immersed?
Needless to say... a born again believer can die soon after with no works to show for it, but we shall see him with the Lord for the Lord is able to make him stand without any works to show for what Christ has done in bringing him Home.
The fact that we believe in Him and that God has raised Him from the dead is saving faith, because faith in Jesus Christ without works has saved us. If someone just got saved but died soon after.... he or she is with the Lord.
I heard of an event when a born again believer died in water baptism. I cannot fathom how that could happen other than whomoever was baptizing him was trying to remember how it goes... "I baptize you in the name of the Father and the Son.. and the...uhh... umm.. no wait... I'll get it... uhhh... of what was it....no.. don't tell me .. it is coming to me... " and then the guy drowned. I do not know what had actually happened, but my wacky imagination did run wild when hearing about that. Did he forget to inhale to hold it before being immersed?
Needless to say... a born again believer can die soon after with no works to show for it, but we shall see him with the Lord for the Lord is able to make him stand without any works to show for what Christ has done in bringing him Home.
Hi Enow thanks for the reply.
It would seem you are in error … not mixing faith (Christ’s) in what you do hear as those in Hebrews 4 and therefore miss the spiritual application in that parable (verse 1-6 of James 2 ) that the Holy Spirit like all parable hides from the lost. It is always about the faith of Christ (coming from) not the faith we have towards (in) Christ.
In the end of the parable verse 7 the Holy Spirit makes it clear they are blaspheming His Holy eternal name as that not seen. Not blaspheming those seen the temporal.We walk by faith.the unseen.
Blasphemy like plagiarism is usurping the authority of ones own work by giving it over to another Christ alone is the author and therfore the finisher. Alfa and Omega.
Jam 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
Parables I believe must be rightly divided using the proper tools like the prescription below. It’s what we do not see that applies in the parables they alone profit. That which is seen does not profit for anything
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
It would seem you are in error … not mixing faith (Christ’s) in what you do hear as those in Hebrews 4 and therefore miss the spiritual application in that parable (verse 1-6 of James 2 ) that the Holy Spirit like all parable hides from the lost. It is always about the faith of Christ (coming from) not the faith we have towards (in) Christ.
In the end of the parable verse 7 the Holy Spirit makes it clear they are blaspheming His Holy eternal name as that not seen. Not blaspheming those seen the temporal.We walk by faith.the unseen.
Blasphemy like plagiarism is usurping the authority of ones own work by giving it over to another Christ alone is the author and therfore the finisher. Alfa and Omega.
Jam 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
Parables I believe must be rightly divided using the proper tools like the prescription below. It’s what we do not see that applies in the parables they alone profit. That which is seen does not profit for anything
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Then let's read what James was talking about.
James 2:1My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;[SUP] 3 [/SUP]And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:[SUP] 4 [/SUP]Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
James was addressing the church disrespecting the poor and having evil thoughts. It was so bad that after they had their collection, they sent the poor away after church service that were about to perish from the elements and starvation by voicing faith in His Providence to get out of helping the poor in meeting their immediate needs.
James 2:[SUP]14[/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?[SUP]
So is James talking about saving faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as needing works? Read it in context to see that is NOT the kind of faith James was talking about in regards to the church's abuse towards the poor.
15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,[SUP] 16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
So the profit and the saving is in regards to the poor when a church's faith in His Providence is being spouted to the poor without leading by example in meeting their immediate needs of the poor from the bounty collected at church service which is why the church's faith in His Providence will not profit the poor nor save the poor.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Verse 14 and verses 17-18 has been used out of context to apply also to faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as needing works but that it is a work of iniquity to do so. One should always read the verses in context or else wind up creating heresy.
James was only talking about the abuse of applying faith in His Providence in getting out of helping the poor when the church has the means to meet their immediate needs after service.
James referred to the well know story of Abraham and Isaac to prove that he was ONLY talking about Abraham's faith in His Providence and how one should lead by example as Abraham had done. The name of the place Jehovehjireh is proof that is the only kind of faith James was talking about that needed works when one boasts of having that faith in God to provide and yet fails to lea by example.
I sure wish the Lord will help you to see that because so many believers say one thing and say another in regards to misreading and misapplying the words of James that it is a heresy to do so to apply also to the faith in Jesus Christ for salvation which has to be without works.
Works to make faith in Him a saving faith is an iniquity. Faith in Jesus Christ for salvation really is WITHOUT works.
Romans 3:[SUP]26 [/SUP]To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Works to make faith in Him a living faith.. a light to the world... a witness unto others... has nothing to do with salvation. Unbelievers can do good works.... it is the sharing of our faith.. our hope in Him is what sinners need to hear and believe in Him in order to be saved.
1 Peter 3:[SUP]15 [/SUP]But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Living by faith in Jesus Christ is how a saved believer lives as His disciples for bearing fruit; not for salvation. One has to be saved first in order to have power to be able to follow Him as His disciples to bear fruit.
James 2:1My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;[SUP] 3 [/SUP]And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:[SUP] 4 [/SUP]Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?
James was addressing the church disrespecting the poor and having evil thoughts. It was so bad that after they had their collection, they sent the poor away after church service that were about to perish from the elements and starvation by voicing faith in His Providence to get out of helping the poor in meeting their immediate needs.
James 2:[SUP]14[/SUP]What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?[SUP]
So is James talking about saving faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as needing works? Read it in context to see that is NOT the kind of faith James was talking about in regards to the church's abuse towards the poor.
15 [/SUP]If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,[SUP] 16 [/SUP]And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
So the profit and the saving is in regards to the poor when a church's faith in His Providence is being spouted to the poor without leading by example in meeting their immediate needs of the poor from the bounty collected at church service which is why the church's faith in His Providence will not profit the poor nor save the poor.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Verse 14 and verses 17-18 has been used out of context to apply also to faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as needing works but that it is a work of iniquity to do so. One should always read the verses in context or else wind up creating heresy.
James was only talking about the abuse of applying faith in His Providence in getting out of helping the poor when the church has the means to meet their immediate needs after service.
James referred to the well know story of Abraham and Isaac to prove that he was ONLY talking about Abraham's faith in His Providence and how one should lead by example as Abraham had done. The name of the place Jehovehjireh is proof that is the only kind of faith James was talking about that needed works when one boasts of having that faith in God to provide and yet fails to lea by example.
I sure wish the Lord will help you to see that because so many believers say one thing and say another in regards to misreading and misapplying the words of James that it is a heresy to do so to apply also to the faith in Jesus Christ for salvation which has to be without works.
Works to make faith in Him a saving faith is an iniquity. Faith in Jesus Christ for salvation really is WITHOUT works.
Romans 3:[SUP]26 [/SUP]To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. [SUP]27 [/SUP]Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Works to make faith in Him a living faith.. a light to the world... a witness unto others... has nothing to do with salvation. Unbelievers can do good works.... it is the sharing of our faith.. our hope in Him is what sinners need to hear and believe in Him in order to be saved.
1 Peter 3:[SUP]15 [/SUP]But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Living by faith in Jesus Christ is how a saved believer lives as His disciples for bearing fruit; not for salvation. One has to be saved first in order to have power to be able to follow Him as His disciples to bear fruit.
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Self confirmation? Name it claim it?
God proves us by giving us a new spirit that will never die, giving us a desire to do His will. We do not prove our own selves by something we could do outwardly other than self righteousness
It’s a living faith or living hope… the reward( eternal life)always before us and not that of our own selves, as if we were in the place of God.
All saints both sides of the cross died not receiving the promise. We prove Him to be true to His promise. Not as if we already have our new incorruptible bodies. The Jews like your self required a sign before they could believe.. Christ says they have received their reward. in respect to their empty boasts. Stumbling over the cross a sign of His works
eb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
I am against seeking works for self confirmation or proving one's salvation to oneself or any other. What happens when one sins? Does it void faith or make it unsaving faith or the believer becomes unsaved? Of course not.
You quoted the reference from mailmandan of James 2:18 with my quote below.
"(James 2:18).Then when you put it that way about being a light to the world; a witness of our faith in Jesus Christ, then that is different than saying one needs work to have saving faith... to prove that you have saving faith not just to others, but to yourselves."
I was refuting his use of scripture but addressing what he was saying... or what I believe he was actually meaning which does not line up with his application of the scripture in James.
I agree that genuine faith in Jesus Christ is without works for salvation; but I was trying to convey that living by faith to bear fruit as His disciple is to serve as a witness to the world.. as a light to the world... not for salvation.
Not sure how you lumped me with the Jews needing a sign before they could believe when I do believe & am saved since I had believed in Him.
I may not have conveyed myself clearly or mayhap you have not followed my discussion with mailmandan well enough to see what I was trying to defend.. to separate saving faith from living faith as I believe mailmandan is mixing the two.
That reference is towards the saints of the O.T.
Even former believers that have fallen away from the faith and do not believe in Him any more has already received the promise because He still abides in them, but because they do have His seal, they are still called to depart from iniquity or else be left behind to be received after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP] 19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP] 21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
To be received as a vessel unto honor in His House is the eternal glory that comes with our salvation in Christ Jesus which is why discipleship is not for salvation, but for the rewards of crowns and to attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, and to have a place in the city of God.. our Father's mansion above.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.[SUP] 11 [/SUP]It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:[SUP] 12 [/SUP]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:[SUP]13 [/SUP]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Any work of iniquity on that foundation that denies Him, they will be denied by Him unless they depart from iniquity before the Bridegroom comes, otherwise, they become castaways as that is what makes a saint a vessel unto dishonor in His House as that foundation cannot be removed, but the works that deny Him will be burned up so they can be received by Him after the great tribulation in serving the King of kings all over the world in bringing up the generations coming out of the milleniel reign of Christ.
You quoted the reference from mailmandan of James 2:18 with my quote below.
"(James 2:18).Then when you put it that way about being a light to the world; a witness of our faith in Jesus Christ, then that is different than saying one needs work to have saving faith... to prove that you have saving faith not just to others, but to yourselves."
I was refuting his use of scripture but addressing what he was saying... or what I believe he was actually meaning which does not line up with his application of the scripture in James.
I agree that genuine faith in Jesus Christ is without works for salvation; but I was trying to convey that living by faith to bear fruit as His disciple is to serve as a witness to the world.. as a light to the world... not for salvation.
Not sure how you lumped me with the Jews needing a sign before they could believe when I do believe & am saved since I had believed in Him.
I may not have conveyed myself clearly or mayhap you have not followed my discussion with mailmandan well enough to see what I was trying to defend.. to separate saving faith from living faith as I believe mailmandan is mixing the two.
That reference is towards the saints of the O.T.
Even former believers that have fallen away from the faith and do not believe in Him any more has already received the promise because He still abides in them, but because they do have His seal, they are still called to depart from iniquity or else be left behind to be received after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP] 19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP] 21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
To be received as a vessel unto honor in His House is the eternal glory that comes with our salvation in Christ Jesus which is why discipleship is not for salvation, but for the rewards of crowns and to attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, and to have a place in the city of God.. our Father's mansion above.
2 Timothy 2:[SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.[SUP] 11 [/SUP]It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:[SUP] 12 [/SUP]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:[SUP]13 [/SUP]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Any work of iniquity on that foundation that denies Him, they will be denied by Him unless they depart from iniquity before the Bridegroom comes, otherwise, they become castaways as that is what makes a saint a vessel unto dishonor in His House as that foundation cannot be removed, but the works that deny Him will be burned up so they can be received by Him after the great tribulation in serving the King of kings all over the world in bringing up the generations coming out of the milleniel reign of Christ.
I do not read James 2:1-6 as a parable but a rebuke to the church for disrespecting the poor literally. And because James is speaking literally, he was also rebuking the church for voicing faith in His Providence to the departing poor after church service for getting out of helping the poor. The church voiced their faith in His Providence to get out of helping the poor. That was the rebuke James was giving wherein that kind of faith requires the church to lead by example to the poor.
Hi Enow
The focus of that parable is on that not seen, the spiritual understanding and not the necessary temporal things of this earth needed to maintain our bodies of death. It’s how he brings the gospel... hiding the spiritual understanding from the lost. Those men in Jame 2 were offeing they were in the place of Christ and are why they are recorded as committing blasphemy of Christ’s name. And therefore having the faith of Christ as the work of Christ in respect to their own selves.
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not “might see”; and that they which see might be “made blind”
The Pharisees not given the spiritual understanding of that parable it proved they had no understanding…(no faith of Christ)
Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Christ used the necessary things of men sen , the (temporal) to preach the gospel (eternal) in respect to the unseen eternal. (2 Corinthians 4:18)
John doubted if Christ was the eternal one.? Doubt is not the opposite of faith, unbelief or no faith is.. The whole ministry of Christ is that the spiritual blind might see, the spiritually lame might walk (understand), the spiritual lepers dead in their trespasses and sins are cleansed of their sin ,the spiritual dead are raised to new spirit life. To the spiritually poor the gospel is preached
Without parables Christ spoke not
When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Luk 7:20
It’s the same with the beatuites using the necesaay things of this world as that seen the temporal to pronounce the good things of the world to come that not seen the eternal just as he those metphors to help John who was doubting .
Without parables designed to hide the spiritual meaning form the lost Christ spoke to the multitude (every one believers and those who had no faith coming from hearing God
And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.Mat 5:1-3
Spiritually bankrupt
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mourn for a salvation not of their owns self. moring to be comforted by the comforter as our teacher and guide
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Not weak but given the strength that comes from hearing the parables
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Having no righteousness of their own
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Those who have received it offer the gospel of mercy so that other could have a living hope that could never die
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Again those who have been given a new spirt and new heart that could never die.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
It is the children of God that hold out the gospel of His peace
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
The same ones whose kingdom is not of this world
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Again for his name sake not for the sake of dead flesh that can at the most offer dead works
Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
They died not receiving the promise just as we do today who also walk by faith in respect to Christ's that does work in us to both will and do His god pleasure(imputed righteousness)) .
The focus of that parable is on that not seen, the spiritual understanding and not the necessary temporal things of this earth needed to maintain our bodies of death. It’s how he brings the gospel... hiding the spiritual understanding from the lost. Those men in Jame 2 were offeing they were in the place of Christ and are why they are recorded as committing blasphemy of Christ’s name. And therefore having the faith of Christ as the work of Christ in respect to their own selves.
Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not “might see”; and that they which see might be “made blind”
The Pharisees not given the spiritual understanding of that parable it proved they had no understanding…(no faith of Christ)
Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Christ used the necessary things of men sen , the (temporal) to preach the gospel (eternal) in respect to the unseen eternal. (2 Corinthians 4:18)
John doubted if Christ was the eternal one.? Doubt is not the opposite of faith, unbelief or no faith is.. The whole ministry of Christ is that the spiritual blind might see, the spiritually lame might walk (understand), the spiritual lepers dead in their trespasses and sins are cleansed of their sin ,the spiritual dead are raised to new spirit life. To the spiritually poor the gospel is preached
Without parables Christ spoke not
When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another?And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight.Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Luk 7:20
It’s the same with the beatuites using the necesaay things of this world as that seen the temporal to pronounce the good things of the world to come that not seen the eternal just as he those metphors to help John who was doubting .
Without parables designed to hide the spiritual meaning form the lost Christ spoke to the multitude (every one believers and those who had no faith coming from hearing God
And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.Mat 5:1-3
Spiritually bankrupt
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mourn for a salvation not of their owns self. moring to be comforted by the comforter as our teacher and guide
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Not weak but given the strength that comes from hearing the parables
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Having no righteousness of their own
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Those who have received it offer the gospel of mercy so that other could have a living hope that could never die
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Again those who have been given a new spirt and new heart that could never die.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
It is the children of God that hold out the gospel of His peace
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
The same ones whose kingdom is not of this world
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Again for his name sake not for the sake of dead flesh that can at the most offer dead works
Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
They died not receiving the promise just as we do today who also walk by faith in respect to Christ's that does work in us to both will and do His god pleasure(imputed righteousness)) .
Yes an example not to have the faith of Christ (comng from) ,not seen in respect to men that are seen
Parables can be historical true just as they are spiritually true. Or just used as moral like the parables of Solomon .The same word used for Proverbs, again as moral parables
Strongs lexicon 04912 mashal {maw-shawl'}apparently from 04910 in some original sense of superiority in mental action; TWOT - 1258a; n m
AV - proverb 19, parable 18, byword 1, like 1; 39
1) proverb, parable 1a) proverb, proverbial saying, aphorism 1b) byword 1c) similitude, parable 1d) poem 1e) sentences of ethical wisdom, ethical maxims
Like the historically true parable below. Parables always point to the things to come, the eternal .
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in figure.(parable) By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. Hebrews 11
Or in another historically true parable that points back to the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world in whom we have our eternal rest.
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day
There are many historical true parables as well as moral parables using metaphors to help us with the spiritual understandings (not seen) The one in James 2 does not reflect a historically true parable .It could be connected to a incident but is not
Another historically true parable below. The fulfillment of the Isaiah 53 prophecy of the fsther and Son working together in perfcet harmny and submission with one another to bring us the peace of God that surpasses all human understnding.
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.Luk 22:43
Revealing to us the spiritual understanding, not seen, Christ working to pour out His spirt according to the promises .(as it were blood ...denotes a parable is in veiw.) Blood like water represent the unseen work of the Holy Spirit working in the affairs of sinful men
Parables can be historical true just as they are spiritually true. Or just used as moral like the parables of Solomon .The same word used for Proverbs, again as moral parables
Strongs lexicon 04912 mashal {maw-shawl'}apparently from 04910 in some original sense of superiority in mental action; TWOT - 1258a; n m
AV - proverb 19, parable 18, byword 1, like 1; 39
1) proverb, parable 1a) proverb, proverbial saying, aphorism 1b) byword 1c) similitude, parable 1d) poem 1e) sentences of ethical wisdom, ethical maxims
Like the historically true parable below. Parables always point to the things to come, the eternal .
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in figure.(parable) By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. Hebrews 11
Or in another historically true parable that points back to the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world in whom we have our eternal rest.
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day
There are many historical true parables as well as moral parables using metaphors to help us with the spiritual understandings (not seen) The one in James 2 does not reflect a historically true parable .It could be connected to a incident but is not
Another historically true parable below. The fulfillment of the Isaiah 53 prophecy of the fsther and Son working together in perfcet harmny and submission with one another to bring us the peace of God that surpasses all human understnding.
Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.Luk 22:43
Revealing to us the spiritual understanding, not seen, Christ working to pour out His spirt according to the promises .(as it were blood ...denotes a parable is in veiw.) Blood like water represent the unseen work of the Holy Spirit working in the affairs of sinful men
We are saved by Christ's good work of faith or called His labor of Love that he began in us .He will finish it just as he promised it..He is our confidence. .so Yes by the unseen work of Christ not seen, not our work seen. Those not walking by the faith of Christ already have their reward as their very own personal assurance called false pride.