Charlottesville is in chaos

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Dude653

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Seriously, do you think he's a white supremacist? Does a president have to come out and denounce everything he believes is wrong?

He MUST be a wife beater, because I haven't seen him denounce it.

Come on, let's use some reason here....
He may or may not be but he missed out on a golden opportunity to denounce these groups and squash these rumors once and for all and he totally dropped the ball.
 

Dude653

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David Duke was there and mentions Trump by name. If I'm president and David Duke mentions me by name, he's going to get a giant BEEEEEP you on Nationwide television
 

Socreta93

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btw Trump condemed the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists earlier this afternoon. Called them criminals and thugs and said racism is evil
 

hornetguy

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btw Trump condemed the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists earlier this afternoon. Called them criminals and thugs and said racism is evil
whew!! That's a load off my mind.... I was getting a little worried that he might be the assistant grand poo-bah of the kkk there for a little bit.....:rolleyes:

this, of course, is silliness to show silliness... anybody can say anything.... what are their actions?

If a person lives a life of tolerance and love for all people, then one day says something out of hand that sounds racist... do we automatically denounce him for being a racist? or do we think.... "hmmmm, that certainly doesn't sound like him... I wonder if he realizes how his comment sounds?" giving him the benefit of the doubt?

If Trump had a history of doing racist things, and associated with racist people, but then stood up and piously said "racism is baaaad.." Which would you believe? The words, or the actions?
 

jenniferand2

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all I know is i have seen videos online where the so called original protesters were marching perfectly fine and minding their own business when a huge group of you guessed it BLM came in and started taunting people holding bats and swinging them at people.. Now I am unsure how all this went down No one knows for sure except God. So to argue who is right and who is wrong is a moot point.
As far as what the President has to say about the matter at hand makes no difference because it will never be the right thing to say anyways..
 

Dude653

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whew!! That's a load off my mind.... I was getting a little worried that he might be the assistant grand poo-bah of the kkk there for a little bit.....:rolleyes:

this, of course, is silliness to show silliness... anybody can say anything.... what are their actions?

If a person lives a life of tolerance and love for all people, then one day says something out of hand that sounds racist... do we automatically denounce him for being a racist? or do we think.... "hmmmm, that certainly doesn't sound like him... I wonder if he realizes how his comment sounds?" giving him the benefit of the doubt?

If Trump had a history of doing racist things, and associated with racist people, but then stood up and piously said "racism is baaaad.." Which would you believe? The words, or the actions?
He spoke on it only as an afterthought after everyone commented about how he made a gluteus maximus of himself. Too little too late
 
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Lets look at the facts.
We have two groups of ungodly people with ungodly agendas who want attention.
They got what they wanted.
Three lives were lost.
This is not the first time and it will not be the last.
The news media only adds fuel to the problem.
It is not my fault.
It is not your fault.
It is not the people of Charlottesville's fault.
It is not Trumps fault.
The fault lies with those people who participated.
 

hornetguy

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He spoke on it only as an afterthought after everyone commented about how he made a gluteus maximus of himself. Too little too late
You simply proved Jennifer's point....
As far as what the President has to say about the matter at hand makes no difference because it will never be the right thing to say anyways..
 
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Hi Lynn,


From what I've read, it also seems like it's a continuation from the Robert E Lee fiasco. It seems like that's what sparked it all.
What fiasco? The city wanted to take the statue down. All this did was hold that off indefinitely to fight what the city wanted. Couldn't win with that one -- damned if they kept it and damned because they didn't want to. All this by outsiders.
 
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An excellent article on Charlottesville.I think it brings out the truth of what has been going on in America in the last few years. Quote "Charlottesville is what happens when the Left empowers extremists."


http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267562/one-easy-way-democrats-can-stop-neo-nazis-daniel-greenfield#.WZE7G0FRJ20.facebook


Quote "Charlottesville is what happens when you normalize racism and street violence. Every normalization of extremism equally normalizes the extremism of the opposite side. "
Here's a better article about Charlottesville. (Click the link at the bottom of the article and it takes you to a page that shows you C'ville. I'm proud now. I know those apartments in the video. My family built and manages them.)

Your article was about what was wrong with what anarchists are doing.
 
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And "Nazis haven't killed people" which is why they should be allowed to march? LOL I am flabbergasted at how many people are sympathizing with the very people who praise the holocaust.
I'm flabbergasted you could spell that word with the limited amount of thinking you're doing.
 
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btw Trump condemed the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists earlier this afternoon. Called them criminals and thugs and said racism is evil
No he condemned them yesterday afternoon. It simply wasn't PC enough for you to notice.
 
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all I know is i have seen videos online where the so called original protesters were marching perfectly fine and minding their own business when a huge group of you guessed it BLM came in and started taunting people holding bats and swinging them at people.. Now I am unsure how all this went down No one knows for sure except God. So to argue who is right and who is wrong is a moot point.
As far as what the President has to say about the matter at hand makes no difference because it will never be the right thing to say anyways..
No, you didn't see the original protesters, ever. The ones who filed to protest were scheduled at noon on Saturday. That was called off, because everything that happened happened before then, and it was too dangerous to protest. None of it was original or legal -- either side.
 

Tommy379

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No, you didn't see the original protesters, ever. The ones who filed to protest were scheduled at noon on Saturday. That was called off, because everything that happened happened before then, and it was too dangerous to protest. None of it was original or legal -- either side.
The white nationalist that applied for the permit had it denied and a federal judge ordered that the permit had to be issued, so the people everyone hates, were there legally.
 
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I'm kind of ashamed of some of you. Many of your remarks are hypocritical.

What we are finding out is that President Trump was correct in waiting, and not selectively condemning either side. (Kind of out of character for him, I'll admit.... Maybe he is trying to grow up some.)

There were two opposing factions that both arrived from out of town, prepared for war... to deliberately hurt other people who did not agree with their POV. From the videos I saw, there is no way to place blame exclusively on either side.

If anything, I fault Trump for this latest pandering to the ANTIFA group by ONLY condemning the other side.

My God! Did you see that photograph Lynn posted????? That Black man clearly came to that confrontation prepared with a setup to create a Flame Thrower!!!! He was projecting three feet of flaming fire right at another man. That should be premeditated Attempted Murder.

Actually going to the trouble to prepare to be armed with a FLAME THROWER? That is so far beyond just an impulsive response of an outburst of sudden anger. That was deliberately planning to maim or kill another human being.
 
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aforgivensonofGod

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There's going to be a eye awakening moment when the left gets what they wanted and the people who supported them ended up as savages, their rights stripped, and are forced to learn how to "love" the quran in their schools. When these so-called "Christians" realize they will try to ban Biblical principles and then start calling the Bible "hate speech" itself.

Half the folks here who believe "3" were killed in a "Right Wing" rally are delusional. Two were police officers who were killed by the LEFT violent protesters who were chanting, "Kill the police." The dodge driver was trying to pass through the violent Antifa crowd, when one of its member shot the back of his dodge car with a loaded gun and he stepped on the gas and ram the crowd to escape. The video of a member of the Antifa shooting a gun on the back of the car is now being posted on Youtube, and the left is doing what they do best, accuse the right of "murdering" 3 people. Which is clearly false.

These left thugs think they can get away with murder of police officers in 2016, yet the media did no coverage on it. When they violently kidnapped two white boys and tortured them in their homes, they did nothing about it. When these massive immigrants come into our country by the help of the left and are now murdering citizens and forming a gang alliance called the MS13, they did nothing about it. And you think the people won't rise up to fight such tyranny? This is what the 2nd Amendment is for, to bear arms against tyranny.

These left thugs showed up to the protest with rocks, urinated ballons, mace, and weapons. While harming civilians and they thought no one would do nothing about it, guess again. Bullies keep on bullying, but one day the bullied will stand back up to fight for what is his.
 

Socreta93

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No he condemned them yesterday afternoon. It simply wasn't PC enough for you to notice.
I simply copied the headline from local news station. I know what he said yesterday, but he made this statement today. I'm basically just saying what happened. Some say he was pressured, ohters believe he should have said this from the beginning. Not my words, their words. I didn't say this as a "oh btw Trump said this, I'm satisfied now", but just repeated what he said earlier today, thats it.

I do find funny how some still aren't happy. Some of his followers are upset he didn't mention BML, and his detractors are upset that he should have said it earlier (some simply think he's still full of it). Either way he can't win. Facebook comments are something else
 

JonahLynx

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David Duke was there and mentions Trump by name. If I'm president and David Duke mentions me by name, he's going to get a giant BEEEEEP you on Nationwide television
If I were President I would take voter loss into consideration though before taking a stand against extremism, since winning seats is more important than alienating principled party members who probably won't jump ship regardless. Before last year I would have said this is an easier stunt to pull with Democrats. But I mistakenly overestimated the jihad-sympathetic voter base in comparison to the Nazi/CSA-sympathizetics. Likely Trump would have lost the support of maybe 5 racists if he came out more emphatic like the VA governor. Obama's trouble was tied into religion and he screwed up under pressure. But, Trump is getting softballs.

Someone should rename the Nazi Party to the Party of Rosie O'Donnell and we might get a genuine reaction.
 
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Well since Ms. Heather is dead I do not believe the BLM instigated the situation. There are numerous videos and pictures of blacks and whites being beaten and hurt by the White Nationalist. This is no different than when my grandmother was marching in the streets in DC with MLK Jr. Back when people were being beaten, spit on, etc. It is sad and we are going back to less than 60 years ago.


Here in Baltimore there was a peaceful protest on the street in solidarity with those who were denouncing the white nationalist yesterday. Many of them are also part of BLM. Very peaceful and not hate-filled.



all I know is i have seen videos online where the so called original protesters were marching perfectly fine and minding their own business when a huge group of you guessed it BLM came in and started taunting people holding bats and swinging them at people.. Now I am unsure how all this went down No one knows for sure except God. So to argue who is right and who is wrong is a moot point.
As far as what the President has to say about the matter at hand makes no difference because it will never be the right thing to say anyways..