Charlottesville is in chaos

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oldethennew

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when I saw on my computer what had happened, and when I saw my people
hurting and dis-respecting each other, my heart broke in two, yes, my husband calls me
a 'polly-anna', sometimes, but I am growing up real fast, when i witness my own actually
trying to destroy each other with their fists and what ever else that they can find to hurt -
where can anyone's heart go to, but to Jesus for comfort? and to realize that these truly are the
'last-days', and that satan has and is turning us against each other in the most horrible ways,
and we now realize, that many more of his horrible ways are in our immediate future...

Please Jesus, have Mercy upon us...
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Why is it so urgent to tear down a statue of Robert E. Lee? This denial of our Southern heritage has gone to far.
 
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Thou shalt not make graven images,oh but the world is not of God's kingdom., so this is what they have always done. practice idoltry. that is why Jesus stopped the diciples from making statues of the vision of Elijah and Moses that they had seen.
 
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Unless you're living under a rock you've heard about Charlottesville, Virginia at least once today.

Charlottesville: One killed in violence over US far-right rally - BBC News


I do not understand why people continue to fight hate with more hate.
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I can't understand why local government would even allow anti protesters to rally on the same day of the protesters. They should rally the day before and even after the day of the protesters' rally, but never on the same day. That is asking for trouble. I do not know how many times a riot has to break out to prove it is not a good idea to have oppositions of an issue to rally on the same day.
 
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As far as i'm concerned, all that wickedness is of the devil and i will not be caught in it. I will be where i suppose to be when Jesus return, or my death. whichever comes first. Will not be involved in the world.
 
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Jennie-Mae said:
Why is it so urgent to tear down a statue of Robert E. Lee? This denial of our Southern heritage has gone to far.
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This smacks of the tactics used in the book "1984". Have you ever read it? The government completely rewrote history, and changed the language to do away with certain words and ways of thinking. People and events just disappeared, and were soon forgotten. Only the new way was remembered, before long.
 
JonahLynx

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Jennie-Mae said:
Why is it so urgent to tear down a statue of Robert E. Lee? This denial of our Southern heritage has gone to far.
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Why do you look fondly on a non-US general? Not trying to be antagonistic, it's a genuine curiosity. I see the historical significance of preserving Confederate memorabilia for educational purposes so as not to forget what happened. But we all agree they were dishonorable traitors who contributed to nearly the same death count of American soldiers as all other wars combined, right? Why do southerners obsess over "the South" as opposed to their own particular state identity? Surely there are notable non-confederate Virginians?

Is the monument intended to glorify confederates or is it in a Gettysburg-esque exhibit which exists solely for Civil War remembrance display? I'm honestly confused by the psychology here.
 
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Desdichado

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Yankees just don't get it.


JonahLynx said:
Why do you look fondly on a non-US general? Not trying to be antagonistic, it's a genuine curiosity. I see the historical significance of preserving Confederate memorabilia for educational purposes so as not to forget what happened. But we all agree they were dishonorable traitors who contributed to nearly the same death count of American soldiers as all other wars combined, right? Why do southerners obsess over "the South" as opposed to their own particular state identity? Surely there are notable non-confederate Virginians?

Is the monument intended to glorify confederates or is it in a Gettysburg-esque exhibit which exists solely for Civil War remembrance display? I'm honestly confused by the psychology here.
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education is that a human rite. when are they going to understand.

would it be easier to plot out the history, of usa , that use the word godless.

when did the church, control law of the land, or when did the church control propaganda, of the media, yet some would say, that propaganda, would control, who you vote for. (only you know why you voted)etc

one of the first thing, i learn on this web site , was usa have freedom of speech. (or they think they do).
when people are getting killed or getting hurt by fighting in a riot.

what good is freedom of speech, if no body will listen, to each other. (strange thoughts to understand)



21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law?Galatians 4
 
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Jennie-Mae said:
Why is it so urgent to tear down a statue of Robert E. Lee? This denial of our Southern heritage has gone to far.
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I'm fine with taking down all those statues of dead democrat generals. They get rid of that democrat flag they fly too.
 
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oldethennew

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oh yes, it's Jesus' Flag that we should all be bowing to...
 
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Some say that the rebellion was about the state's right to govern themselves without federal imposition or interference.

Others say it is about the right to have slaves.

Some say both.

The point here is getting rid of a historical statue by public opinion that has been declared as a symbol of hatred & bigotry is not going to get rid of hatred & bigotry. They can remove all the stuff that reminds them of the Civil War, but that is not going to deal with the problem when people believe they are justified in feeling the way they are.

That is called wishful thinking.

The answer.... preach Jesus Christ & Him crucified and make disciples out of saved believers by having them trust Him as their Good Shepherd in learning of Him & His promises to us in how He will personally help us to follow Him as His disciples so that they may be found abiding in Him and His words to be received as vessels unto honor by the Bridegroom at the pre trib rapture or else, be left behind to be received later on as vessels unto dishonor in His House after the great tribulation.

If all the churches were doing that.... no one would be removing historical landmarks when the community is living in brotherhood as the historical landmarks can serve as a reminder to never again have a civil war over anything.

But the end of all things is at hand.....best set your hearts on the things above... and not on the things of this earth. When the Bridegroom comes, think not that your country or your people need you, but rather turn them over to the Lord & leave.
 
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There's going to be a eye awakening moment when the left gets what they wanted and the people who supported them ended up as savages, their rights stripped, and are forced to learn how to "love" the quran in their schools. When these so-called "Christians" realize they will try to ban Biblical principles and then start calling the Bible "hate speech" itself.

Half the folks here who believe "3" were killed in a "Right Wing" rally are delusional. Two were police officers who were killed by the LEFT violent protesters who were chanting, "Kill the police." The dodge driver was trying to pass through the violent Antifa crowd, when one of its member shot the back of his dodge car with a loaded gun and he stepped on the gas and ram the crowd to escape. The video of a member of the Antifa shooting a gun on the back of the car is now being posted on Youtube, and the left is doing what they do best, accuse the right of "murdering" 3 people. Which is clearly false.

These left thugs think they can get away with murder of police officers in 2016, yet the media did no coverage on it. When they violently kidnapped two white boys and tortured them in their homes, they did nothing about it. When these massive immigrants come into our country by the help of the left and are now murdering citizens and forming a gang alliance called the MS13, they did nothing about it. And you think the people won't rise up to fight such tyranny? This is what the 2nd Amendment is for, to bear arms against tyranny.

These left thugs showed up to the protest with rocks, urinated ballons, mace, and weapons. While harming civilians and they thought no one would do nothing about it, guess again. Bullies keep on bullying, but one day the bullied will stand back up to fight for what is his.
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This is news to me. How did the "LEFT violent protesters" knock down the helicopter? And where did you get that protest the idiot drove through was the Antifa?

The protests happened near the Rotunda at UVA, which is in the western part of the city. That's where all the fights and violence was happening. That's where the Antifa met Alt-Knights. BUT there was another protest going on, one mile east and about half a mile south. That's where normal people protested. And THAT's where Heather was killed.
 
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Well since Ms. Heather is dead I do not believe the BLM instigated the situation. There are numerous videos and pictures of blacks and whites being beaten and hurt by the White Nationalist. This is no different than when my grandmother was marching in the streets in DC with MLK Jr. Back when people were being beaten, spit on, etc. It is sad and we are going back to less than 60 years ago.


Here in Baltimore there was a peaceful protest on the street in solidarity with those who were denouncing the white nationalist yesterday. Many of them are also part of BLM. Very peaceful and not hate-filled.
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It's very different than the 1960's marches. Back then it was about equality.

BLM is about anarchy. I will give BLM wasn't the only one at fault, but they bused in to start something with the other idiots. They were loaded for bear. They just didn't expect the bear to be more ruthless than they are.
 
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Jennie-Mae said:
Why is it so urgent to tear down a statue of Robert E. Lee? This denial of our Southern heritage has gone to far.
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I agree it's stupid, however, who are we to argue on what the town's elected officials already decided?
 
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I can't understand why local government would even allow anti protesters to rally on the same day of the protesters. They should rally the day before and even after the day of the protesters' rally, but never on the same day. That is asking for trouble. I do not know how many times a riot has to break out to prove it is not a good idea to have oppositions of an issue to rally on the same day.
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Simple. The local government didn't. The one protest that was scheduled for that day never got started because the damage was done from other protests before it got under way.
 
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Yankees just don't get it.
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I blame the modern American education system for not teaching him much. Seriously? He can't think of any other famous leaders from Virginia? I bet he's got nothing against the heroes at the Alamo, and yet they weren't Americans. They were Texans. And he thinks Gettysburg says something different than other Civil War battles? And he has absolutely no idea why there were so many more deaths in the Civil War, even ignoring Gettysburg's deaths numbered the same as all the deaths of American soldiers in the whole of Vietnam.

I blame the education system. And really, it seems like a class-action lawsuit waiting to happen.
 
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