Gonna try again, this time in a different vein.
Most of the furniture and knick knacks I grew up with were from Mom and her side of the family. One of the things was a pink glass vase. I saved it when she died. I still have it.
I saved it. It is saved. It will remain saved (until I die or it gets broken, and I might even save it if it breaks.)
You keep saying that the Savior has his part and the Saved has it part. What part does that vase have for me saving it? Do I have to put flowers in it for it to be worthy of its salvation? It's purpose is to hold flowers and the water required to keep the flowers from wilting quickly, so it does have a work to do. But did I save it for that work? Nope. Is it less saved if I never put flowers in it? Nope. Should it have flowers in it? Well, I do put flowers in it, but not all the time. Does not having flowers in it make it less saved? Is it working out it's salvation? Nah, not really. I just saved it because I think it's pretty and it was Mom's.
I get we are saved for a purpose, but we're also saved because the Savior wanted to save us for whatever reason he wanted to. Ultimately our purpose will to be to worship God and love him forever, but honestly? We're not little toy soldiers set up in an eternal hallelujah choir so God can soak in his own goodness. He soaks in his own goodness even before he said his first, "Let there be."
And there is no after salvation, because the Lord isn't going to die or break us.
I think you get stuck on the word "salvation." I'm not saying that's a bad word or you're wrong, but again semantics means something. And salvation is a very good word. We are the Saved. Jesus is the Savior. He intends to keep us forever, even when we aren't doing what we were created to do. BUT he is also training us to do what we were created to do -- work! So, it's not like that's where you're wrong. It's that you seem to keep thinking you got to do something to make yourself worthy to be saved, to keep salvation, or to hold up your end of the bargain. Nope, nope, and nope.
In this case, the Savior is the worthy one, he keeps the saved, and he held up the bargain.
Because of that, (not around that, in that, over that, or under that), we want to work.
I'll grant you there are quite a few on BDF that will assault you until the cows come home because you have to do it their way, or you're wrong. But, who cares? As long as you know you're God's permanent pink flower vase, you will always want to know where the flowers are to hold. God still loves you when the flowers go into another vase or die. It's a good gig to be one of a few that God decided to save, and we do get to work for him. Better gig because we get to tell everyone else that they can have the same great gig, without ever losing our job.
Most of the furniture and knick knacks I grew up with were from Mom and her side of the family. One of the things was a pink glass vase. I saved it when she died. I still have it.
I saved it. It is saved. It will remain saved (until I die or it gets broken, and I might even save it if it breaks.)
You keep saying that the Savior has his part and the Saved has it part. What part does that vase have for me saving it? Do I have to put flowers in it for it to be worthy of its salvation? It's purpose is to hold flowers and the water required to keep the flowers from wilting quickly, so it does have a work to do. But did I save it for that work? Nope. Is it less saved if I never put flowers in it? Nope. Should it have flowers in it? Well, I do put flowers in it, but not all the time. Does not having flowers in it make it less saved? Is it working out it's salvation? Nah, not really. I just saved it because I think it's pretty and it was Mom's.
I get we are saved for a purpose, but we're also saved because the Savior wanted to save us for whatever reason he wanted to. Ultimately our purpose will to be to worship God and love him forever, but honestly? We're not little toy soldiers set up in an eternal hallelujah choir so God can soak in his own goodness. He soaks in his own goodness even before he said his first, "Let there be."
And there is no after salvation, because the Lord isn't going to die or break us.
I think you get stuck on the word "salvation." I'm not saying that's a bad word or you're wrong, but again semantics means something. And salvation is a very good word. We are the Saved. Jesus is the Savior. He intends to keep us forever, even when we aren't doing what we were created to do. BUT he is also training us to do what we were created to do -- work! So, it's not like that's where you're wrong. It's that you seem to keep thinking you got to do something to make yourself worthy to be saved, to keep salvation, or to hold up your end of the bargain. Nope, nope, and nope.
In this case, the Savior is the worthy one, he keeps the saved, and he held up the bargain.
Because of that, (not around that, in that, over that, or under that), we want to work.
I'll grant you there are quite a few on BDF that will assault you until the cows come home because you have to do it their way, or you're wrong. But, who cares? As long as you know you're God's permanent pink flower vase, you will always want to know where the flowers are to hold. God still loves you when the flowers go into another vase or die. It's a good gig to be one of a few that God decided to save, and we do get to work for him. Better gig because we get to tell everyone else that they can have the same great gig, without ever losing our job.
I feel we're having a Language problem....
Why?
In the first part of your post you seem to disagree with me...
Then in the second part of your post you seem to agree with me.
So I don't know how to respond!
Forget about the pink vase.
What about theology?
Can you tell me the difference between Justification and Sanctification?
Maybe this will do it???
Let's give that a go.
I have a feeling we agree.