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Not really Snooze. God confers ownership to people.
Jesus did not say, "Your house will be left desolate, but then later returned to you." He just said it would be left desolate. The only return to God is for apostate Jews to accept Christ. That means for instance jettisoning the Levitical Priesthood and renouncing being a Jew. If you have done those things, how can you make any historical claim on Palestine?
Jesus did not say, "Your house will be left desolate, but then later returned to you." He just said it would be left desolate. The only return to God is for apostate Jews to accept Christ. That means for instance jettisoning the Levitical Priesthood and renouncing being a Jew. If you have done those things, how can you make any historical claim on Palestine?
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It's not a question of agreeing or disagreeing with him. If the Bible says only those who believe in and accept Christ and are born again will get to heaven one day, then I am not going to argue. The Bible says pray for Israel, and so I pray that Israel's eyes and hearts will be opened so that they too will believe in and accept Christ. The way in which he delivered his sermon just confused me a little, which many of the posts on this thread have helped me to understand.
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nope, because as god said in gen 12,15 and 17' I give you and your children after you this land as an ETERNAL possession, what lamdwas it? New Jerusalem? Heaven? The land abrahamed really looked forward to?
No, "the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of cannan," and what did he say? You will be my people, and I will be your God, forever, (he never promised them salvation, but a status on this earth)
oh oh and he confirmed this covenant with Issaac and Jacob, and Paul mentioned in, and many OT prophets spoke of it,
so no, it does not disagree with me, all that says is what all Israel should do, Abraham looked for a far better place than land, he looked for a future place which will never fade away, yet Abraham still by faith went to h Lang God promised him (and his descendants)
god gave me a house, I love my house, I call it home, I praise god for it, and use it for his service,
but it will I'll never take the place of my eternal home, which God is prepairing for me in heaven, that is the house I look forward to, this house will fade away.
No, "the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of cannan," and what did he say? You will be my people, and I will be your God, forever, (he never promised them salvation, but a status on this earth)
oh oh and he confirmed this covenant with Issaac and Jacob, and Paul mentioned in, and many OT prophets spoke of it,
so no, it does not disagree with me, all that says is what all Israel should do, Abraham looked for a far better place than land, he looked for a future place which will never fade away, yet Abraham still by faith went to h Lang God promised him (and his descendants)
god gave me a house, I love my house, I call it home, I praise god for it, and use it for his service,
but it will I'll never take the place of my eternal home, which God is prepairing for me in heaven, that is the house I look forward to, this house will fade away.
Jacob's name was changed to Israel.
"And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed." (Genesis 32:28)
Obviously, the name "Israel" is related to prince, Jesus being the "prince of peace," prevailing with God and man.
יִשְׂרָאֵל Yisrâʼêl, yis-raw-ale'; He will rule as God; Jisraël, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity:—Israel.
Root Word (Etymology) from Strong's Hebrew 8280 and 410 in Heberw
About a year ago I broke down the spelling of "Israel" in the Hebrew pictorial language, and found (much to my surprise) that it seemed to point directly to salvation. In order, from right to left, it shows worship, judgement, the first (beginning), the power, all of the previous fulfilled with a picture of a "shepherd's staff."
"I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." (John 10:11-14)
"And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed." (Genesis 32:28)
Obviously, the name "Israel" is related to prince, Jesus being the "prince of peace," prevailing with God and man.
יִשְׂרָאֵל Yisrâʼêl, yis-raw-ale'; He will rule as God; Jisraël, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity:—Israel.
Root Word (Etymology) from Strong's Hebrew 8280 and 410 in Heberw
About a year ago I broke down the spelling of "Israel" in the Hebrew pictorial language, and found (much to my surprise) that it seemed to point directly to salvation. In order, from right to left, it shows worship, judgement, the first (beginning), the power, all of the previous fulfilled with a picture of a "shepherd's staff."
"I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." (John 10:11-14)
The main thing this pastor has overlooked is that God preserved a remnant of Israel, so Israel never died. Effectively the Church and Israel are one and the same. Disfunctional Israelites lost the right to the name. Functional non-israelites were allowed to acquire the birthright. Israelites, both Jew and other tribes, form the core of the Church. Hence Christ's ministry was exclusively to Israel, and Paul's to all mankind. If the Church is not Israel, then Christ failed in his ministry.
I think that Ephraim and Israel can be related in a spiritual thought process. Ephraim received the birthright form Jacob, Jacob being Israel. Joshua is from that tribe Ephraim. Jesus is from the tribe of Judah, nevertheless (In Hebrew) the names are the same. Joshua's name means.. "Jehovah is salvation."