Eating Swine (hogs)?

[AllenW]

As most threads are....I made a statement concering a post about praying to Mary which was biblical and like normal you jump on the band wagon just because it offended a friend of yours who is false with about 90% of what she says.....so what ever Allen!

What a judgment to make.
90% of what she says is false.
By your standards, she's straight from hell.
Aren't we all lucky your nor the judge.
Who in their right mind would want to live under your rule to begin with.

At least you are still running 100%.
You are still always right about everything and you still always get in the last word.

 

[FranC]

Fran....your words have carry no weight with me......Praying to Mary is IDOLATRY....thr Catholocised images of Jesus are also false...NO IMAGES OF ANYTHING IN heaven the bible states......and the rest of what you said...under my first statement above!

Yes. Dcon.

You Always have VERY IMPORTANT things to say.
I know I try not to skip ONE WORD.


BTW,

You have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

You KNOW ALL ABOUT BIBLICAL MATTERS.

Did you figure out how?

Do you CARE how?

 

[AllenW]

Allen

Who here doesn't know Christ?

That is not for me to know dear.
Do you know?

 

[stonesoffire]

That is not for me to know dear.
Do you know?

well, I don't think unbelievers are going to be on here and posting about Jesus. Especially in this forum. And if they are, they usually get banned right away.

I just wondered who we are ministering to as you said we are here to do that.

Bible discussion...emphasis on discuss.

 

[stonesoffire]

Just making a point here, not really into this discussion other than reading...but didn't Jesus say at one time, who is my mother and who is my brothers? That all those who are His are actually His family. Not saying He didn't honor them, but He didn't let them interrupt ministering.

 

[oldethennew]

oh yes, these are the 'end-times'...

God's chosen are a separate and peculiar people, not bound by the customs or traditions
of this evil world - they know Christ's Heart and what's abomination to Him, and what
is pleasing to Him -
these are indeed the 'end-tmes', the whore has been exposed: the fruits are:
pedophlia,
homosexuality,
inquisition,
joining with the Nazi party in ww11,
worshipping maryolatry,
along with much idolatry for many man-made
idols of worship...
but,
God will smile when the lost are found!...

 

[FranC]

Our job is to stand for the truth and not coddle those who are false just because we like them....Praying to Mary is idolatry regardless of your ability to call a spade a spade!!

Oh. And ONLY YOU know the truth?
Dcon, you don't know the first letter of the word TRUTH.

You're so far from truth you coudn't see it with a telescope.

Here's the truth:

A day will come when all will be called out of their tombs and will hear His voice.
They will come forth, those who did GOOD DEEDS to a resurrection of life...

Those who committed evil deeds to condemnation.
John 5:28-29

ANYTHING derogetory said of the mother of Jesus is an evil deed and one which You and the other posters who agree with you will be judged on.

Jesus is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God.
You blasphemed the Holy Spirit by agreeing to vile remarks made about the mother of the ONE WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT.

IF you believe in the Trinity, of course.
You made derogatory statements of the mother of the 2nd person of the Trinity when become flesh.

Do you and the other posters here believe Jesus is HAPPY about the remarks made about HIS MOTHER???

And you want to "teach" Others.
First teach yourself.

 

[AllenW]

well, I don't think unbelievers are going to be on here and posting about Jesus. Especially in this forum. And if they are, they usually get banned right away.

I just wondered who we are ministering to as you said we are here to do that.

Bible discussion...emphasis on discuss.

I was generalizing that that is our calling.
I wonder why we do not spend time building each other up so we can effectively go out and do that instead of tearing down a part of the church of Christ

 

[gotime]

Where in Scripture does it’s now okay to eat swine?

If you can, please document your answer.

It does not, but anyone with half a brain and some study will know that it is stupidity to eat pig purely from a scientific point of view.

That does not mean everyone who eats it is stupid, rather they are uneducated on biology of both humans and pigs.

 

[gotime]

Of course Scripture does not pinpoint ham or bacon as such (or even swine and hogs). But God says that now ALL MEATS are perfectly acceptable for Christians (1 Timothy 3:1-4). He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The word you call meats just means food. Pig was not considered food to a Jew because of Gods instruction.

 

[mj007]

 

[oldethennew]

those who Love and serve Jesus Christ can never be 'torn-down', for their Faith is in the Saviour,
and the world's opinions are the least of what they would ever think of or about...

 

[AllenW]

Just making a point here, not really into this discussion other than reading...but didn't Jesus say at one time, who is my mother and who is my brothers? That all those who are His are actually His family. Not saying He didn't honor them, but He didn't let them interrupt ministering.

Post 90 on page 5 is the start of all this
some people were offended by this while many others embrace it.
It is causing a division that will not be solved without first some apologies.

 

[stonesoffire]

I looked. Nothing worth arguing over. It's just a picture.

 

[gotime]

I notice a few people have made an argument that we are free in Christ. suggesting we can eat whatever we want.


Well of course you can, You can eat rubbish that destroys your body just because you want.

You can take the body Jesus redeemed and smash it because of your carnal lusts for food.

You can make you stomach your God and claim its your freedom in Christ.

You can take the temple of God which is your body and destroy it form the inside out just to gratify your taste spuds even though you don't need it.

Sure why not.


Sure who cares that it has been proven over and over again that these things cause heart disease and diabetes and cancer etc. I am sure you can just pray and it will all go away. I am sure Christians who are free in Christ don't die of these things do they? Oh no wait they do. But I guess that is ok.

Now to be clear, I am not actually trying to be nasty or condescending. I wrote it like that to make a point. I tell you this because its easy to misunderstand when written.

Lets use some common sense with the brain God gave us.

 

[stonesoffire]

I was generalizing that that is our calling.
I wonder why we do not spend time building each other up so we can effectively go out and do that instead of tearing down a part of the church of Christ

It might have something to do with how dead we have reckoned ourselves to be daily. Maybe?

 

[AllenW]

I looked. Nothing worth arguing over. It's just a picture.

You sound like you want to be neutral in this.
there is no neutral ground.
You are either for or against.
If you wash your hands as did Pontius Pilate, that means you have taken a side.

 

[AllenW]

It might have something to do with how dead we have reckoned ourselves to be daily. Maybe?

I think you hit it right on the nose.

 

[stonesoffire]

You sound like you want to be neutral in this.
there is no neutral ground.
You are either for or against.
If you wash your hands as did Pontius Pilate, that that means you have taken a side.

What's the fight that I need to take a stand over?

 

[AllenW]

What's the fight that I need to take a stand over?

Maybe you need to reread post 90 and the surrounding posts.