Do you believe in the supernatural???

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shittim

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"We were all born in the image of God, we were all born with a super-natural self, a higher self, an invisible self, an energetic rather than inert self, that is closer to spirit, but only when we choose to live by that path after having 'fallen into adulthood' do we realise it exists."

I have doubts about this
 
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Sillychick723

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"We were all born in the image of God, we were all born with a super-natural self, a higher self, an invisible self, an energetic rather than inert self, that is closer to spirit, but only when we choose to live by that path after having 'fallen into adulthood' do we realise it exists."

I have doubts about this
I agree Shittim. His response sounded "pretty" but new agey.
 
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If you are your super-natural self then your life becomes more super-natural, it just goes to show that the natural self which is physically bonded to the body and mind, does not.

We were all born in the image of God, we were all born with a super-natural self, a higher self, an invisible self, an energetic rather than inert self, that is closer to spirit, but only when we choose to live by that path after having 'fallen into adulthood' do we realise it exists. And most never get out of adulthood and it's fantasies and fabrications about what truth is and what is the truth and how these ideas 'group together' defining truth in numbers.

The truth is not necessarily something you search for and find, it is somewhat remembering, remembering who you really are, a child of God, and you always were a child of God no matter what you have done, or where you have been, or how you were hurt, or why you doubted your self.
John 1:12-13 would disagree with you, "Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. Thanks. God bless. :)
 
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I think it completely agrees with what I stated. Maybe you are experiencing the 2nd paragraph.

Yet to all who did receive him (rather than self), to those who believed in his name (rather than their own name), he gave the right to become children of God (naturally) - children born not of natural descent (born of their body), nor of human decision (the adult worldly perspectives even in religion), or a husband's will (placing importance on what others decide for them no matter how close in their life), but born of God (seeing their super natural self as being who they are).

John 1:12-13 would disagree with you, "Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. Thanks. God bless. :)
 

shittim

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sounds like new age gobbledegook. Jesus said His yoke is easy, is burden is light. Jesus is easy to understand.
We were created in the image of G-d, we were born in sin after the fall, we can regain our stature with G-d through Christ Jesus
and the atonement he made for us at the cross, where and when He said, "it is finished".
 
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I think it completely agrees with what I stated. Maybe you are experiencing the 2nd paragraph.

Yet to all who did receive him (rather than self), to those who believed in his name (rather than their own name), he gave the right to become children of God (naturally) - children born not of natural descent (born of their body), nor of human decision (the adult worldly perspectives even in religion), or a husband's will (placing importance on what others decide for them no matter how close in their life), but born of God (seeing their super natural self as being who they are).
Who is the we, you are referring to though? That is where you got me confused. Please elaborate (you elaborated but after I referred to it). Otherwise it does sounds new age, hence why I responded the way I did. Also, I experienced all of your paragraphs and they befuddled me. Thanks. God bless. :)
 

Jackson123

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Since this is a Christian forum, I wonder how many of you actually believe in supernatural occurances such as:
Healings, demonic manifestations, deliverance & prophetic messages. Please share your thoughts.
depend what country you come from, and where do you live. I live among witchraft practicer. And Bible tell about Supra natural whether come from the Lord or the devil.

moses turn his stake into snake, shaman did the same
 

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Let us guard our hearts and minds: The strength of a real man or real woman cannot be estimated. As I see a fascination with psychic influences here we must remember that supernatural is all about us, That is a fact, a truth, a reality. but we ourselves are not gods; thus, our supernatural relationships are imperative to our lives. One of the two Spiritual will influence our soul and will rule our volitional will supernaturally, either by choice or by lack of choice.

Supernatural is the norm in God's heavens and on earth; simply put - it is reality. But we must remind ourselves that this means not just the Holy Spirits control, (if we submit to it), but also the evil spirits which want to dominate our choices and will, and, which will do so, if not in Christ. Supernatural healing and all sorts of things like it are not unreal; they are unquestionably real for God manifests Himself in all parts of our spirit, soul and body. Let us guard our hearts and minds not to give ground within our minds to allow evil supernatural take-overs which would reason with our soul to draw off this fact that all things around are supernatural indeed! Replacing the notion that we too are gods; not just graced with a will.. We are not gods, the reality is only the Spiritual world can give or take to our lives. Thus, supernatural is not only real it is all about us in every way!

Man is God’s temple, and he too has three parts.The body is like the outer court, occupying an external position with its life visible to all. Here man ought to obey every commandment of God. Here God’s Son serves as a substitute and dies for mankind. Inside is man’s soul which constitutes the inner life of man and which embraces man’s emotion, volition and mind. Such is the Holy Place of a regenerated person, for his love, will and thought are fully enlightened that he may serve God even as the priest of old did. Innermost, behind the veil, lies the Holy of Holies into which no human light has ever penetrated and no naked eye has ever pierced. It is “the secret place of the Most High,” the dwelling place of God. It cannot be reached by man unless God is willing to rip apart the veil. It is man’s spirit. This spirit lies beyond man’s self-consciousness and above his sensibility. Here man unites and communes with God always and forever - supernaturally!

To answer the question - Only a fool would think there is no basis to believe in the supernatural. According to Romans, Even the things we can see and touch and hear gives us reason to know there is a supernatural presence about us.

 
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Sillychick723

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Let us guard our hearts and minds: The strength of a real man or real woman cannot be estimated. As I see a fascination with psychic influences here we must remember that supernatural is all about us, That is a fact, a truth, a reality. but we ourselves are not gods; thus, our supernatural relationships are imperative to our lives. One of the two Spiritual will influence our soul and will rule our volitional will supernaturally, either by choice or by lack of choice.

Supernatural is the norm in God's heavens and on earth; simply put - it is reality. But we must remind ourselves that this means not just the Holy Spirits control, (if we submit to it), but also the evil spirits which want to dominate our choices and will, and, which will do so, if not in Christ. Supernatural healing and all sorts of things like it are not unreal; they are unquestionably real for God manifests Himself in all parts of our spirit, soul and body. Let us guard our hearts and minds not to give ground within our minds to allow evil supernatural take-overs which would reason with our soul to draw off this fact that all things around are supernatural indeed! Replacing the notion that we too are gods; not just graced with a will.. We are not gods, the reality is only the Spiritual world can give or take to our lives. Thus, supernatural is not only real it is all about us in every way!

Man is God’s temple, and he too has three parts.The body is like the outer court, occupying an external position with its life visible to all. Here man ought to obey every commandment of God. Here God’s Son serves as a substitute and dies for mankind. Inside is man’s soul which constitutes the inner life of man and which embraces man’s emotion, volition and mind. Such is the Holy Place of a regenerated person, for his love, will and thought are fully enlightened that he may serve God even as the priest of old did. Innermost, behind the veil, lies the Holy of Holies into which no human light has ever penetrated and no naked eye has ever pierced. It is “the secret place of the Most High,” the dwelling place of God. It cannot be reached by man unless God is willing to rip apart the veil. It is man’s spirit. This spirit lies beyond man’s self-consciousness and above his sensibility. Here man unites and communes with God always and forever - supernaturally!

To answer the question - Only a fool would think there is no basis to believe in the supernatural. According to Romans, Even the things we can see and touch and hear gives us reason to know there is a supernatural presence about us.

Well said, Dan.
 

Nehemiah6

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Since this is a Christian forum, I wonder how many of you actually believe in supernatural occurances such as:
Healings, demonic manifestations, deliverance & prophetic messages. Please share your thoughts.
Well, since Christianity itself is really supernatural, Christians automatically believe in the supernatural.
 
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Dear Sillychick723, Maybe it's time to change your nickname to Virtuous Woman. What do you say? EVERYTHING is supernatural. At least that's the message of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. And what's written in the Bible is the spiritual reality. Do you know the website It's Supernatural? Take a look at it. There are supernatural churches out there. Did you ever hear about the Bethel Church in Reding, CA? Take care and God bless YOU.
 
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What s "the supernatural"?

For God created the earth. He created man. Jesus died for our sins. Jesus performed miracles. So did the apostles. And it still happens today.

So. "Natural" is a term invented by humans, and is based on science. We serve a mighty God, though. And his conception of normality will never fit into the box of science and human understanding. Do I believe in God? Yes. Do I belive that Jesus is his son and died for my sins? Yes. Can that be prooven by science? No. But I refuse to to use the term supernatural. Because that is just trying to put things into human boxes and will undermine the greatness of God.
 

willfollowsGod

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What s "the supernatural"?

For God created the earth. He created man. Jesus died for our sins. Jesus performed miracles. So did the apostles. And it still happens today.

So. "Natural" is a term invented by humans, and is based on science. We serve a mighty God, though. And his conception of normality will never fit into the box of science and human understanding. Do I believe in God? Yes. Do I belive that Jesus is his son and died for my sins? Yes. Can that be prooven by science? No. But I refuse to to use the term supernatural. Because that is just trying to put things into human boxes and will undermine the greatness of God.
I don't understand why using the term supernatural puts things into human boxes and will undermine the greatness of God. That argument does not make sense to me. Supernatural really means above or beyond nature. God is above nature, he is above us as well. Natural is not always based on science. For example since we are born with the same sinful nature as Adam, we love to sin, we naturally sin, etc. When we become a Christian, we start to not want to sin, start to hate sin in ourselves and others, etc. It is only natural as a Christian to believe what the Bible says and not the world, even though we are still dealing with the sinful nature inherited from Adam and are still tempted to sin. I don't really understand the issue with that word. You are correct that the normality our culture accepts wants to confine God into the box of science and human understanding. But God does not fit in any box, you have to take him as the Bible reveals him as and not based on your preconceptions of him. So I agree with you there. Thanks. God bless. :)
 
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