Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

Meggido's post on my screen is 30622.
Your's is 30858

You purposely went back over 200 posts to pick an argument?!?

After all that CRYIN' to say we need to settle down?!?

You're the Op, & you can't let it go!

OVER TWO HUNDRED POSTS!!!

EVERY ONE ELSE ALREADY FORGOT IT..... BUT NOT YOU.

You had to drag it back up to find another member to get banned.

It's not the first time you've done it, either.

I knew you couldn't stop. You don't have any intention to.

See...your problem is you like to

a. Make accusations
b. Cause trouble
c. Are ignorant of the facts
d. AND THE BIGGIE JUDGE MOTIVE

I am in AUSTRALIA AND AM 15 HOURS AHEAD OF YOU STEVIE AND AM ASLEEP WHEN MOST IS WRITTEN AND AM GOING OVER THREADS I HAVE NOT SEEN......

At the end of the day pal it is YOU THAT LIKES TO CAUSE ISSUES...so....are you man enough to admit your error in this post and apologize????

 

[stonesoffire]

The Bible kinda says this, right?

I see that the bible states that the world is in darkness and deserves hell. Every way of us within is against the Lord until He intervenes. Our mind is at enmity with God.

I can remember before being born again, a little girl coming to our door and asking for my kids to go to bible school in the summer. I didn't want to be bothered with them getting up and getting them ready. Was unkind to that little girl. Am much ashamed of that, but I realize I only acted out what I was.

 

[dcontroversal]

Utter nonsense. All are responsible for their own posts. If any get banned, it is their fault and no one else's. Stop your lame blame game ^^^.

Thanks.

He is a disturber and accuser....I am in Australia and have to catch up every morning when I get up and am like 4 to 10 pages behind.....90% of his posts are exactly what he accuses of!

 

[Meggido]

Maybe the verses you used to arrive at your thinking that we deserved to be saved would help us understand how you are viewing it.

EG never posts verses why should I?

 

[stonesoffire]

To whom are you referring?

To youm...lol

But I can't remember why right now.

Cracky......*for Dcons benefit*

 

[Meggido]

I see that the bible states that the world is in darkness and deserves hell. Every way of us within is against the Lord until He intervenes. Our mind is at enmity with God.

I can remember before being born again, a little girl coming to our door and asking for my kids to go to bible school in the summer. I didn't want to be bothered with them getting up and getting them ready. Was unkind to that little girl. Am much ashamed of that, but I realize I only acted out what I was.

Was Hell created for sinners?

 

[dcontroversal]

Amen, positional is "in Christ" and conditional is based on our moment by moment condition.

Funny how how only two people have tried to discuss this, the workers never seem to want to discuss these doctrinal truths.

They cannot...because they lump both in under works for......

 

[stonesoffire]

EG never posts verses why should I?

shhhh...because you are the teacher...

 

[stonesoffire]

Was Hell created for sinners?

well....you got me there. lol

No, but if one isn't fit for heaven, where else would they go?

 

[TruthTalk]

Exactly correct, unconditional election. Undeserved. Unmerited. Unchangeable.

"Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows." James1:17

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
Numbers23:19

"The providence of God can change; His heart cannot."

"The Lord hath not cast away his people which he foreknew" (Romans 11:2).

He chose us from eternity, and He will love us throughout eternity. He loved us so as to die for us, and we may therefore be sure that His love will never die. His honor is so wrapped up in the salvation of the believer that He can no more cast him off than He can cast off His own robes of office as King of glory. No, no! The Lord Jesus, as a Head, never casts off His members; as a Husband, He never casts off His bride. Did you think you were cast off? Why did you think so evil of the Lord who has betrothed you to Himself? Cast off such thoughts, and never let them lodge in your soul again..
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By: C.H. Spurgeon

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[Magenta]

He is a disturber and accuser....I am in Australia and have to catch up every morning when I get up and am like 4 to 10 pages behind.....90% of his posts are exactly what he accuses of!

Less than a day ago, were were on page 1544; 24 pages later is 480 posts in less than 24 hours

 

[eternally-gratefull]

shhhh...because you are the teacher...

if EG is asked to back his claim, he willingly posts verses, he does not make excuses, and EG paraphrases verses peoplshould know all the time,

 

[Meggido]

shhhh...because you are the teacher...

I am no teacher, I merely expound deeper truth...

The truth in the last few pages is this...The way we view ourselves post conversion...is how we view Father and his gifts....

If we view ourselves as not worthy or deserving of the precious gifts after conversion....then maybe we are not as eternally secure as we like people to think we are...Father does not view us as undeserving after conversion.....so why should we...
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I do not believe for a nanosecond that God just loves me, but I still deserved or deserve hell....if that were true then why are we even here....

 

[Magenta]

Is there a difference between the lost and unbelieving?

Jesus did not come to seek and to save the unbelieving...
he came to seek and to save those who were lost....

I believe the lost are our prodigals in the body today, who have left church due to being inflicted by commendation, judgement, hate, hurt/offense and a myriad of issues...I also believe the lost are who have fallen to both legalistic and lascivious false teachings....and have not realized the power of truth and grace....

I believe the unbelieving are just that...unbelieving and they and their condition is described in Romans 1. I love those people and let the Holy Spirit work on them....

Here is your original post, saying the unbelieving are not the lost.

 

[stonesoffire]

What exactly is the point that we need scripture for. I don't know why but this seems like a mish mash to me.

 

[dcontroversal]

Oh, no! Who else is banned?

You should not have responded because his whole post was a lie, accusatory and false...I am in Australia right now and when I get up have from 4 to 10 pages of posts I am behind on and go thru to catch up.....

 

[zeroturbulence]

Less than a day ago, were were on page 1544; 24 pages later is 480 posts in less than 24 hours

I wish I had a quarter for every post.

 

[stonesoffire]

The truth in the last few pages is this...The way we view ourselves post conversion...is how we view Father and his gifts....

I don't know how you came up with this view Meggido. And it is you that is teaching it here whether or not that is your office.

For His great love...that is coming to me so will look to see if that is a scripture.

 

[Magenta]

What exactly is the point that we need scripture for. I don't know why but this seems like a mish mash to me.

The Scriptures that says we are worthy, though Scripture in reality says only One is worthy, He Who bears the Name above all names Jesus praised the man who thought himself unworthy.

 

[Meggido]

well....you got me there. lol

No, but if one isn't fit for heaven, where else would they go?

I am giving a lesson on grace that goes far deeper than many here can fathom...puns intended....


Grace is more than a blankee, bottle and diapers....