If you say soStop being petulant.
There is no he who holds all things back in Scripture. Nothing to do with me.
what do I need to do J7?
the conversation is over with you
we will just have to agree that the two of us do not agree
If you say soStop being petulant.
There is no he who holds all things back in Scripture. Nothing to do with me.
Yes.
But applying the wheat and the tares parable to that event is problematic when it involves a harvest. Jesus said the field was the world; and so when you harvest anything from the field in taking out of the field to the barn, it is taken out of the world. What is left behind are those tares that had offend and do iniquity for which they are "excommunicated" out of His kingdom to be received into the Father's kingdom which is above. The furnace of fire is in the world when the tares are burned up.
So the event you had referred to is God defending His saints at Jerusalem. They are not being "harvested" in being taken out of the world to the Father's kingdom above.
I see why you would apply the wheat & the tares to that event, but again, it is problematic when the elements of the parable suggests taking the wheat out of the field and thus out of the world.
What is left behind are those tares that had offend and do iniquity for which they are "excommunicated" out of His kingdom to be received into the Father's kingdom which is above.
We're already gathered up and seated in the heavenly realms and not of the world even as HE is not of the workd
Yes.
But applying the wheat and the tares parable to that event is problematic when it involves a harvest. Jesus said the field was the world; and so when you harvest anything from the field in taking out of the field to the barn, it is taken out of the world. What is left behind are those tares that had offend and do iniquity for which they are "excommunicated" out of His kingdom to be received into the Father's kingdom which is above. The furnace of fire is in the world when the tares are burned up.
So the event you had referred to is God defending His saints at Jerusalem. They are not being "harvested" in being taken out of the world to the Father's kingdom above.
I see why you would apply the wheat & the tares to that event, but again, it is problematic when the elements of the parable suggests taking the wheat out of the field and thus out of the world.
Positive?A further question is how does deracinating tares also deracinate wheat?
If it was a case of false Christians being killed, I think it would be very positive. After all we are not to be yoked with unbelievers, and we should shun false doctrine.
Conversely if all deceptive bibles were destroyed, it could have an adverse affect, because a very bad bible still contains the witness of Christ, and some measure of the gospel.
The thread is not about the fictional Trib
the spirit is the wheat, the flesh is the tares, growing side by side.
your life will always reflect the best of times and the worst of times
Yes. I didn't want to "like" your post. It just didn't seem right roOnly place people are gathered and burned is after the millennium at the gwt judgement.
That is already a divided kingdom within oneselfTares are persons of the devil,the devil being their father.
In your theory,you have people of the devil living in you.
That is way,way off
Positive?
How is positive?
Because they are removed without any further hope?
oh wait, they will be raised up as all in the graves will at the endtimes to be judged
Howver, what would be more positive is that with time, with seed and water, and HIS tilling the soul of their heart, they might be converted
That is more positive
How can I ignore youI thought you were ignoring me....
Only place people are gathered and burned is after the millennium at the gwt judgement.
After the judgment of natural Israel?
John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
well debating in a discussion can have one grow in spirit as well as "learn" more about each other,so that one can perhaps discern whom is a pretender and whom is contender for God,as the subject is considered.
Depends what you mean.
When Jesus had finished he asked the disciples:
(51 [FONT=&]Jesus saith unto them), Have ye understood all these things?
[/FONT][FONT=&]thereby indicating that all the parables here form a collective whole, so you cannot just take these parables in isolation. (Well you can, but you will miss the full picture).
When you read them alongside each other, then it gets more interesting still.
(In a sense all the parables about the Kingdom of heaven also form a collective picture, but that is not quite what I am saying here; here Jesus gives various seed parables, and these form a collective whole, along with the other two parables here).[/FONT]