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He cannot debate any truth past looking at the cross and holding affection in his heart for something not there anymore...
Many here refuse to grow up past the cross and saving grace....because that would require more than just mental belief...it would require actual death, sacrifice and laying themselves down....but since Jesus did all the hard stuff for them, it is much easier to stand open mouthed looking at the cross and holding affection in their hearts for something not there anymore...
Ever notice eternal security actually puts Jesus to death every time they open their mouths? and in some cases like Mr. Preacher4truth, and Mr. Truth talk they keep him on the cross all the time?
This is why they are still sinners saved by grace and not sin-forgiven saints,that will still sin, and have the resurrection power working inside of them....
The real ironic part to eternal security is the amount of work they do to convince themselves and others they are saved and really never enter rest, because eternal security creates an inner turmoil and lack of peace....because there is no expectation for overcoming or victory over their sinful condition now...
there is no time for any other truth or spiritual growth beyond sinner saved by grace....because they need to convince themselves and others they and they alone have it right....
not one of them ever answers hard questions abut what the life post salvation looks lie, spiritual growth, bearing fruit or anything else...beyond sinner saved by grace, eternal security and the saving grace which bought it for them....we have 32,000 pages here to prove this...
there is nothing else because anything else is all works based salvation or legalism.....tell them they also have to crucify themselves with Christ and be risen to newness of life and you are preaching sinless perfection....tell them they have authority over the devil in the name of Jesus and they tell you are acting in self-righteousness...tell them the Holy Spirit is a helper beyond being a .49 cent seal of approval and they call you a false teacher and the gifts and the ministry of the Holy Spirit is not for today...
They are blind to see an deaf to hear that the very grace they brag about can and will do much more in them adn through them, that just saving them....
It takes full faith and trust to allow yourself to die to the process....many in eternal security simply are not spiritually mature enough to allow themselves to die to the process...because that means giving total surrender for absolute control of your life....and then they start to see that eternal security is just blanket of security, and the walk is not about his faith, but your personal faith... because when total surrender allows for total control, there are expectations of you[not to obtain or maintain salvation] and that is where we count the cost....and where many are called, but few are sent....this is where the only easy day serving Jesus was yesterday becomes a reality...and where we stop looking at the cross and have walked out of the tomb and begin to understand its all about the harvest
Many here refuse to grow up past the cross and saving grace....because that would require more than just mental belief...it would require actual death, sacrifice and laying themselves down....but since Jesus did all the hard stuff for them, it is much easier to stand open mouthed looking at the cross and holding affection in their hearts for something not there anymore...
Ever notice eternal security actually puts Jesus to death every time they open their mouths? and in some cases like Mr. Preacher4truth, and Mr. Truth talk they keep him on the cross all the time?
This is why they are still sinners saved by grace and not sin-forgiven saints,that will still sin, and have the resurrection power working inside of them....
The real ironic part to eternal security is the amount of work they do to convince themselves and others they are saved and really never enter rest, because eternal security creates an inner turmoil and lack of peace....because there is no expectation for overcoming or victory over their sinful condition now...
there is no time for any other truth or spiritual growth beyond sinner saved by grace....because they need to convince themselves and others they and they alone have it right....
not one of them ever answers hard questions abut what the life post salvation looks lie, spiritual growth, bearing fruit or anything else...beyond sinner saved by grace, eternal security and the saving grace which bought it for them....we have 32,000 pages here to prove this...
there is nothing else because anything else is all works based salvation or legalism.....tell them they also have to crucify themselves with Christ and be risen to newness of life and you are preaching sinless perfection....tell them they have authority over the devil in the name of Jesus and they tell you are acting in self-righteousness...tell them the Holy Spirit is a helper beyond being a .49 cent seal of approval and they call you a false teacher and the gifts and the ministry of the Holy Spirit is not for today...
They are blind to see an deaf to hear that the very grace they brag about can and will do much more in them adn through them, that just saving them....
It takes full faith and trust to allow yourself to die to the process....many in eternal security simply are not spiritually mature enough to allow themselves to die to the process...because that means giving total surrender for absolute control of your life....and then they start to see that eternal security is just blanket of security, and the walk is not about his faith, but your personal faith... because when total surrender allows for total control, there are expectations of you[not to obtain or maintain salvation] and that is where we count the cost....and where many are called, but few are sent....this is where the only easy day serving Jesus was yesterday becomes a reality...and where we stop looking at the cross and have walked out of the tomb and begin to understand its all about the harvest