How can you really really really know you are saved?
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We know we are truely saved is believing that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. Also by having faith that the lord hasvforgiven is and has accepted us. By faith he are saved. Many people who he may turn away for different reasons some maybe people who claim to be Christian but think the ticket to heaven is by works. Others may be claim to be Christian but are not. Or people who claim to be Christian but continue to sin thinking they will just have to pray and it will all be okay.. there are tons of reasons. Some maybe Christians but if the wrong branch of Christianity a false type of Christianity. Like polygamists claim to be Christians but clearly break the laws in the b know by having more than one wife or people claiming to be Christian but are in same sex relationships.. God will send peole away at judgement day for all kinds of reasons.
Phil 1:6 For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus.
There is more going off in the above statement than maybe meets the eye - "until the day of Christ Jesus".
Paul is promising that the "perfecting of the good work" would occur within their lifetimes, not at the "end of the world". We can get somewhat of a similar idea of the "soon" day of the Lord in Romans:
Romans 13:11 Do this, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now salvation is nearer to us than when we believed.
And if we relate this "salvation": with what Jesus said:
Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near.
Luke 21":28 “But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
All the above has a 1st century AD application to it.
There is more going off in the above statement than maybe meets the eye - "until the day of Christ Jesus".
Paul is promising that the "perfecting of the good work" would occur within their lifetimes, not at the "end of the world". We can get somewhat of a similar idea of the "soon" day of the Lord in Romans:
Romans 13:11 Do this, knowing the time, that it is already the hour for you to awaken from sleep; for now salvation is nearer to us than when we believed.
And if we relate this "salvation": with what Jesus said:
Luke 21:20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near.
Luke 21":28 “But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
All the above has a 1st century AD application to it.
If a person can have the false belief that they are saved, which seems to be accepted by most here as correct.
How can anyone be sure of their own salvation?
Is this assurance necessary? Is the lack of this assurance a sign of unbelief? Is a unflinching answer of "yes I am 100% sure of my salvation" a virtue or a sign of arrogance?
How can anyone be sure of their own salvation?
Is this assurance necessary? Is the lack of this assurance a sign of unbelief? Is a unflinching answer of "yes I am 100% sure of my salvation" a virtue or a sign of arrogance?
"These things are written that you may know that you have eternal life." In other words, if you go by what the Bible says, and your conscience agrees, then you are saved. Cause think about it, Christ didn't die for nothing, so who reaps the benefits of it? The Bible says who (things that are written says who). Not the Elect of God (Christians), but only the Very Elect of God (Christians who obey).
You are right in saying there are many conflicting religions out there, even within Christianity. You just have to go through them and see which one matches the Bible. For example, "Call no man 'Father' for you have one Father, and He's in heaven." Does not match Catholics. "They have an appearance of wisdom with their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack restraining sensual indulgence." Does not match Monks.
God is not a liar. He says if you look for Him with all your heart, you will find Him (truth). He says to ask, seek, and knock for understanding, and the door will be opened onto you." Satan asked Eve if God really said not to eat that fruit, why? Because he knows that God requires full understanding in order to be legitimate. Whether it is legitimate sin, or legitimate innocence.
For those who never even heard of a bible, they are a law onto themselves by way of their conscience. For those who do know of bibles, and are capable of studying, there is no excuse for them. Someone who tries to understand, and comply, with all their might, yet will not pass Judgement Day- that person does not exist, because there is no way it will be God's fault, saying to Him "I prayed with all my might for understanding, and you did not supply. I asked, sook, and knocked, and You did not open the door."
You are right in saying there are many conflicting religions out there, even within Christianity. You just have to go through them and see which one matches the Bible. For example, "Call no man 'Father' for you have one Father, and He's in heaven." Does not match Catholics. "They have an appearance of wisdom with their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack restraining sensual indulgence." Does not match Monks.
God is not a liar. He says if you look for Him with all your heart, you will find Him (truth). He says to ask, seek, and knock for understanding, and the door will be opened onto you." Satan asked Eve if God really said not to eat that fruit, why? Because he knows that God requires full understanding in order to be legitimate. Whether it is legitimate sin, or legitimate innocence.
For those who never even heard of a bible, they are a law onto themselves by way of their conscience. For those who do know of bibles, and are capable of studying, there is no excuse for them. Someone who tries to understand, and comply, with all their might, yet will not pass Judgement Day- that person does not exist, because there is no way it will be God's fault, saying to Him "I prayed with all my might for understanding, and you did not supply. I asked, sook, and knocked, and You did not open the door."
I believe the best answer would depend on the context in which the word "heart" is used.
In Jeremiah 17:9 CEV it seems to mean emotions/feelings. Do not trust your "heart" because your emotions are fickle.
In Kings 8:39 CEV it seems to mean our true selves, without pretense.
In Luke 8:12 CEV it appears to be our intellect.
You are correct, the word "heart" is bantered about much too loosely.
In Jeremiah 17:9 CEV it seems to mean emotions/feelings. Do not trust your "heart" because your emotions are fickle.
In Kings 8:39 CEV it seems to mean our true selves, without pretense.
In Luke 8:12 CEV it appears to be our intellect.
You are correct, the word "heart" is bantered about much too loosely.
amen
and maybe more clearly, back a few chapters:
a saying repeated as "trustworthy" in 2 Timothy 2:11
i know i have life in Him because i have found my death in His: as the Spirit testifies in me with my spirit. as Peter says "he that has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin" ((1 peter 4:1)) Paul also says in 6:7 -- "whoever has died is freed from sin" & it's on this basis, having died with Him, that both urge us to live "the rest of the time" in the flesh in service to God's will. not in order to receive salvation, but for propriety and filial duty, because of the assurance of salvation that sharing in His death provides.
it's by the same Spirit through which the world and the flesh are crucified in us, and we to it, that we know we have life - because through it we die to the lusts & idolatry in which we formerly were. it's this Spirit that testifies in us, and this Spirit doesn't speak of itself, but testifies of Christ. the same one by which we are sealed. i am sure, because i am sure that this Spirit works in me: the same Spirit that raised Him, raises me -- and praise God! this is only a 'downpayment' of the promise of Christ!
and maybe more clearly, back a few chapters:
Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him
(Romans 6:8)
(Romans 6:8)
a saying repeated as "trustworthy" in 2 Timothy 2:11
i know i have life in Him because i have found my death in His: as the Spirit testifies in me with my spirit. as Peter says "he that has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin" ((1 peter 4:1)) Paul also says in 6:7 -- "whoever has died is freed from sin" & it's on this basis, having died with Him, that both urge us to live "the rest of the time" in the flesh in service to God's will. not in order to receive salvation, but for propriety and filial duty, because of the assurance of salvation that sharing in His death provides.
But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
(Romans 8:11)
(Romans 8:11)
it's by the same Spirit through which the world and the flesh are crucified in us, and we to it, that we know we have life - because through it we die to the lusts & idolatry in which we formerly were. it's this Spirit that testifies in us, and this Spirit doesn't speak of itself, but testifies of Christ. the same one by which we are sealed. i am sure, because i am sure that this Spirit works in me: the same Spirit that raised Him, raises me -- and praise God! this is only a 'downpayment' of the promise of Christ!
How can you really really really know you are saved?
If you were saved you should have a testimony. If you don't have one then you might consider Luke 22:35-38
"And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, 'But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me'And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."
If you are talking about salvation as in overcoming death, wouldn't that be the white stone which you received?
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
John 14:2-4
If you were saved you should have a testimony. If you don't have one then you might consider Luke 22:35-38
"And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, 'But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me'And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough."
If you are talking about salvation as in overcoming death, wouldn't that be the white stone which you received?
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
John 14:2-4
About time for the OP to address some of the scriptures presented - I fink..
And that includes the advocates devil - Willie.......
And that includes the advocates devil - Willie.......
On your question about receiving the Holy Spirit, that is a can of worms for another day.
It's either yes or no in regards to the HS.
We can quote this verse and that verse all day - You either know that God/Christ is working in your life or not.
You have either experienced his chastening or not.
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Sometimes yer have to give a thumbs up to the KJV.
If you haven't recieved chastisement then you are either perfect or one of them ^.
But rather than arguing with the Walking Dead I'm gonna go watch 'em on Netflix...
We can quote this verse and that verse all day - You either know that God/Christ is working in your life or not.
You have either experienced his chastening or not.
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Sometimes yer have to give a thumbs up to the KJV.
If you haven't recieved chastisement then you are either perfect or one of them ^.
But rather than arguing with the Walking Dead I'm gonna go watch 'em on Netflix...