Does the Holy Spirit convict the born again believer of sin?

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Meggido

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Limey410v2 said:
Example, The law of Moses taught that you could not harvest on the Sabbath, Pharisaical Judaism went one step further, and said you cannot walk through the grass on the Sabbath, just in case your hand accidentally plucked a head of wheat.
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OK, but they also still practiced Mosaic law, although they added things as well...I do not disagree with that
 
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Limey410v2 said:
Lol, I'm a little busy.

Bad news, Adam, sin and death
Good news, Jesus, forgiveness of sin and life, everlasting. That is the Gospel. He Himself is the good news. What He accomplished by His death is the good news.
Jesus taught under the law and was bringing the lost people of Israel back to it, to show how utterly impossible it was to gain rightousness through it, and they, if they accept Him as the Messiah, will then turn to His Grace and Mercy for the renewal of life because of His sacrifice.
It's really not that complicated.
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you are just messing around here


however you have made plain what you believe

the gospel is the REVELATION of Jesus...and the teaching of Jesus

you are laughing up the wrong tree.

believing half the truth is not the truth
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Meggido said:
Ok...what Law was Jesus teaching people?
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Not pharaseeic law, he purposely broke their law to try to prove a point to them, a point only a few of them finally figured out.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Jesus preached the Spirit of the law, against the Pharisaical way of living. Of obedience by rote, or acting, as in cleaning the outer, but within remaining evil. Or simply, human.

Kingdom living is out of the inner man. And He was preparing His own to receive Holy Spirit. That is the Kingdom He was proclaiming to come, the kingdom of God within man.
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Jesus taught mosaic law, he just showed the proper interpretation of it, minus all the laws the Pharisees were following which were outside mosaic law.
 
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Billyd said:
I'm a little late to the discussion. Here's my humble opinion.

Before I was born again, God convicted me of my sins and sentenced be to death.

When I was saved, God forgave my sins and graciously gave me eternal life, and the Holy Spirit to guide me through the earthly journey of my eternal life.

Now that I am saved, the Holy Spirit doesn't convict me of my sin, He convinces me that what I am doing is a sin, and leads me to seek God's forgiveness for my sin. When I seek God's forgiveness, He is faithful and graciously restores my fellowship with Him.

A better discussion would be "How does the Holy Spirit work in you Life?"
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we do need to discuss Christian growth, and what it entails, I sadly fear so many mix that with grace and make it as essential to salvation, they do not understand what it really is,
 
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Billyd said:
No. He convinces the believer that what the believer is doing is sin.
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What if the believer alteady knows it is sin? What then? He can not convince him again? What des he have to instead show him?
 
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preacher4truth said:
Convict, convince, reprove are the same sense of the Greek word; John 16:8; 2 Timothy 4:2. They are both applicable to the lost and converted concerning their sin.
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I think we need the context,

in john 16:8 he is convicting the world they are sinners, (not individual sins)
in 2 Timothy 4:2 he is telling us to convince people of sound doctrine,

in this sense, yes they are not only the same greek word, they mean the same, they boy talk about convincing people of what the truth is, in the non believer, the fact they are sinners, in the believer, of what spiritual truths are, so they do not fall into unsound doctrine or non truths.

the word reprove or rebuke is a different word, it means to denounce what is not true,

Which again, leads me to what I and I think many are saying, the HS does not have to convict, or convince a believer of the truth about sin, they already know it.
 
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preacher4truth said:
Yeah, well, you're wasting your time. Hyper-grace has gotten into his mind and certain texts neutralize other texts. By the way, to confess sin, but not for forgiveness? The epitome of arrogance, un-biblical teaching and self-deception.
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So so if I do not confess my sin I lose salvation? Where is this in scripture?
 
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Meggido said:
Some believe there is no need for relational forgiveness because grace covers it all...
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who? Who believ s this stuff? And how many times do you all have to be asked before you either name names, show posts, or give up and stop?
 
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7seasrekeyed said:
you are just messing around here


however you have made plain what you believe

the gospel is the REVELATION of Jesus...and the teaching of Jesus

you are laughing up the wrong tree.

believing half the truth is not the truth
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Once Jesus revealed, what then? To me you are dealing in half truths. What tree am i laughing up, yours?
 
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Meggido said:
relational forgiveness was taught by Jesus himself....
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Yes, relationship based on forgiveness, if there is no forgiveness there can be no relationship.

Jesus asked us to forgive before we are asked 70 X 7, is he not willing to do this himself?
 
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wolfwint said:
Yes! He does. Who else convict you if you are doing sin?
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most people know it the moment they do it, they need chastened, but they do. It need reconvinced of what they already know is truth.
 
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​the truth is coming out, yet another attack on hypergrace, which is against the rules, if his keeps up, I recommend getting he mods involved.
 
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oldethennew said:
yes, g777,

you are a well known 'mocker' as well...something that we both have noticed
about you and your posts, is that there is a 'lack of Christ's Love and Humility' -
this is a really big 'TELL'...
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Wow, are you for real? Grace777 is one of the most mocked and attacked people in CC and he has held his tongue so many times, and asked other people to hold theirs as well when he is attacked, and you want t promote this nonsense?

You people need to look in a mirror, and preach to yourself, this is crazy what you have done
 
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Limey410v2 said:
Example, The law of Moses taught that you could not harvest on the Sabbath, Pharisaical Judaism went one step further, and said you cannot walk through the grass on the Sabbath, just in case your hand accidentally plucked a head of wheat.
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My hand has never accidentally done work! My hand is against that! :D
 
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Grace777x70 said:

The Lord bless you abundantly! All is well! We have a great salvation in Christ and we have a good, good Father.
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Come on grace777, you did not need to attack him,

oh wait, you do what you always do,

I have to laugh, some of these people can. To be serious, It has to be some sort of game or something
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Wow, are you for real? Grace777 is one of the most mocked and attacked people in CC and he has held his tongue so many times, and asked other people to hold theirs as well when he is attacked, and you want t promote this nonsense?

You people need to look in a mirror, and preach to yourself, this is crazy what you have done
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He or she was correct in her assessment, it goes both ways. He's done the same things and I'm not one to just sit here and make pretense about it. Some of his sidekicks have done the same.
 
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Limey410v2 said:
For the record, I have never heard either Ellis, or Prince speak, not one tiny word. So when you speak of these people I know nothing about them.
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What ever you do, do not judge them by what people are saying about them, most stuff they say concerning them in their attacks against their gospel is false, and was proven false well over a year ago, go to the source,

Now, concerning WOF, that may be different.
 
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preacher4truth said:
He or she was correct in her assessment, it goes both ways. He's done the same things and I'm not one to just sit here and make pretense about it. Some of his sidekicks have done the same.
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Well I have yet to see it, and if he did do it the way he is attacked, who could blame him.

All i I have seen him do is try to correct false thinking about what he believes which many of us sadly have been doing since this so called hypergrace nonsense got started,

Who are his sidekicks?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
What ever you do, do not judge them by what people are saying about them, most stuff they say concerning them in their attacks against their gospel is false, and was proven false well over a year ago, go to the source,

Now, concerning WOF, that may be different.
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The sticky posted by 2 mods, oncefallen and CS1 were not about WOF it was about Hyper Grace and posting anything from a known preacher of hyper grace....


Here is your source.....


http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/143507-hyper-grace-preachers-doctrine-cc.html

while your at it.... check out the few posts before #342 and #342 it puts it all into perfect perspective, except you will reject it...because it comes against one of your "bro's"
 
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